What a great camera my D70 is! I've had mine for almost a year and it's been more fun than any other SLR I've ever owned. Here comes the D200...and it looks like a showstopper and a price many of us can swing. But it seems like a waste to sell off my sweet D70 with it's Harbortronics grip. I'm thinking of keeping it for a 2nd backup body, perhaps for dedicated use aboard my new 35 foot sailboat. So...how many of you will keep your D70's????
I am keeping both for sure - having a backup digital body weighs more to me than the few hundred EUR I'd get for my 23 000 shots old D70. From what I've found the design should be good for some 100 000 shots anyway.
Oh I will definitely keep mine as a backup. It is always good to have backup cameras with you if your doing any type of commercial work. I see people shooting weddings sometimes and all they have is 1 camera! That is playing with fire and a great way to be humilated and sued if something should happen to it and you can't finish the job.
Even if you don't do commercial work, I love to keep 1 camera with a travel lens stuck in the car somewhere so if I happen to come across something that I want to shoot, I will at least be able to get some type of shot. It might not be with my favorite lens but that is ok. I have had many great shots that came up out of the blue and if I hadn't had a backup camera stuck in the car, I would have missed that opportunity.
Both worlds, yes. That's what I like at Nikon: If you have a D200 or F6 in your hands makes almost no difference. All important buttons and controls are so similar, making frequent exchange very convenient.
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I'll definitely be keeping both. I've been wanting a backup body for a while now, especially since I'm losing trust in my D70 with over 22,000 shots on it. I was seriously considering just buying another D70s, but I'm glad I waited. I was the first person on the waiting list at my local camera shop. I can't wait to put the D200 to work knowing that I'll have a backup if I need it. I'm not sure how much a well used D70 would be worth anyway. It is certainly worth more to me as a backup than a few hundred dollars in cash.
Bobsprit- maybe you could just keep a dedicated photographer like myself on your new sailboat.
Not me. I'm getting rid of the D70 - IF - I like the D200. I've never liked the small viewfinder and the F80 will still serve me as an alternate. But, I also won't be getting the D200 for several months. I'll let the first few batches go through to work the kinks out.
If I can convince the wife of the necessity of acquiring a D200 then I will be keeping the D70 as a backup definitely...and my Mamiya C330f....and my little digital point and shoot....and any other little bargain-bin specials I find between now and then
I might get rid of my D70. Now that cameras are becoming computers, there is much less feeling and bonding to them since each new camera brings a host of improvements over its predecessor that have a direct impact on the final image (i.e. noise, sharpness, color balance, number of pixels).
I'll never get rid of my FM or my F4 though... Given the same optics attached they can take pictures just as good as the latest F6.
Speaking of computers, the only piece of equipment I still get emotional about is my first Apple Macintosh Mac Plus (I kept it as a memorabilia with its 4Mb of memory and 40 Mb internal drive!!!!). The rest, all the way to my latest dual processor G5 are just tools to get the job done. This is how I see the Digital World.
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>I might get rid of my D70. Now that cameras are becoming >computers, there is much less feeling and bonding to them >since each new camera brings a host of improvements over its >predecessor that have a direct impact on the final image >(i.e. noise, sharpness, color balance, number of pixels). > >I'll never get rid of my FM or my F4 though... Given the >same optics attached they can take pictures just as good as >the latest F6. > >Speaking of computers, the only piece of equipment I still >get emotional about is my first Apple Macintosh Mac Plus (I >kept it as a memorabilia with its 4Mb of memory and 40 Mb >internal drive!!!!). The rest, all the way to my latest dual >processor G5 are just tools to get the job done. This is how >I see the Digital World.
Interesting comment Nabil. I feel the same way about my film cameras thus the reason for my lens line up. As for the computers, I've got rid of all the old ones except my Macintosh 512k. Can't part with it for some stupid reason.
I'm keeping my D70 at least until I'm sure there aren't any problems with my D200. I'll probably keep it after that just cause I'm not sure I can get rid of it. By the way I heard those old Macs make great boat anchors, (Just kidding). Tom
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I'll be keeping my D70 as a backup for one year after I get my (already ordered) D200. After that time I'll decide if I still want it. I have a pair of F4s and if I decide to go totally digital I will sell them along with the D70 to get a second D200 (or whatever else is available from Nikon that is as least as good as it but much less expensive than a D2X).
I too, have kept my 1MB Mac Plus with 20MB external hard drive (still works, although now I use a dual processor G5 PowerMac).
I will keep my D100 as a backup, it is still a wonderful camera that can well hold its own.
I have had my D100 for three years now, and have watched and waited as Nikon has released the D70, the D70s, and the D50 with specs that just did not meet my needs. Finally, after the long long wait, the D200 looks to be a "real" replacement to my very loved D100 body, but I will never let the D100 go.
Will keep my D100 and two D70 cameras. First of all, because we are five photographers in the big family, spread between three homes in two countries. Second, when my camera rested in a repair shop for a month, I really missed it. Third, sometimes it is convenient to have two cameras in the field. Fourth, I feel comfortable to know that I may benefit from 1/500 sync speed of D70 if I ever need it. And sixth - I just don't need to sell my old equipment to finance new.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to sell the N80. I know I won't get much for it, so it's sad, and I wish I didn't have to. But my wife demanded that I sell it as part of the bargain we struck for allowing the D200 purchase to go ahead.
As sad as I will be to part with the N80, however, I will say that I wouldn't be surprised if it were only very rarely used again, if ever, once the D200 was in my hands. I fully expect to hit the ground running with the D200 and never look back. I've already been doing mostly digital stuff anyhow by scanning in negatives or slides from the N80 on my Coolscan IV. It's such a PITA that it will be like a breath of fresh air to get digital files right from the get-go.
Man oh man this will be a long 6 week wait. And then the possible disappointment when I discover I'm not getting one of the first shipment because it took me 2 days to get my pre-order in. Sheesh.
I will probably be selling my D70. Since I have the D2H (and since Nikon will be repairing it free if I have the dreaded exposure problem) already I think the D200 will be a fine second, not backup, camera.
I cannot say anything about the D70, a camera that I do not own but if it helps, I am keeping my D100 and for the time being, no orders for the new D200. I have owned the D100 for about 2 years. I know the camera well and I get awesome images out of it. Besides, it has been paid already. If I go for the D200 in the future, I certainly will still keep the D100 for back up, that happy I have been with this camera. William Rodriguez Miami, Florida.
I am planning on my D200 being my #2 or #3 camera depending on the event that I am working. I've got two D100's and a D2H and D2X now. I usually only take about 10 or 15 shots with one of the D100's at a shoot now and I keep it mostly for backup only. I may retire one D100 after my D200 comes. But one D100 I will hard convert to a infrared only digital SLR. In fact, I'm sending it in next week after this weekend's shoot to have it converted. I've never really shot infrared before and with the price of a used D100 likely not so good, I think that this is as good a use as any for it.
At the moment I plan on keeping the D70. Great backup if I'm on a photo vacation where I currently always get nervous if anything happens. Plus, I won't always need more than 6mp. Lastly, it is the camera that made me fall in love with photography. So it will have senitmental value
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I have the D100, D70, my wife, & my Dog. Will consider getting the D200 next year. Which one should i trade in ? ( Hint : not the D100, D70, or my Dog ). Gota see the "bugs" are out of the D200 first... Carl..
I plan on keeping my D70s till my photographic skills reach the level of this photographer who shot this shot in the link below with a D70.Then it will be time to move up beacause at that point my skills will have matured enough that the extra megapixels will be needed for the large prints I'll need for gallery exhibitions It amazes me all the people recently I've seen who feel they need to ditch their D70's and move up to the D200.The problem is you go to their online galleries and look at the images they have posted and think why?The D200 is not going to make their eye and technique any better (Ken Rockwell included)I think a better investment for alot of these folks would be better spent in some photography workshops with their D70's, and that includes me too
>prints I'll need for gallery exhibitions It amazes me all >the people recently I've seen who feel they need to ditch >their D70's and move up to the D200.
You should be proud of and thankful to those people. As one of them, I can say that we are doing you a very great service, because high volume buying means great profits for Nikon. That allows Nikon to produce more and better products, to sell at a cheaper price for guys like you.
BTW, I have 2 d70 and am not planning on selling either one.
>The problem is you go to >their online galleries and look at the images they have >posted and think why?
I think, why not? Who says you have to be a pro to buy the equipment you want to use?
I'm no pro and don't pretend to be one, but I'm not ashamed of my photos either. Here they are, the good, bad and ugly.
>>prints I'll need for gallery exhibitions It amazes me all >>the people recently I've seen who feel they need to ditch >>their D70's and move up to the D200. > > You should be proud of and thankful to those people. As >one of them, I can say that we are doing you a very great >service, because high volume buying means great profits for >Nikon. That allows Nikon to produce more and better >products, to sell at a cheaper price for guys like you.
No you actually aren't doing me a service, after using Nikon for 30 years, I've actually just dived into the Canon DSLR camp.I still own a FTN, F2as, F3 Titanium, F4, several screens and a couple prisms, Nikon extension tubes, and many Nikkors and accessories as well as my D70 with an 18-70 and 12-24 DX.I am planning on keeping it all.But am tired of nikon taking so long to update their Digitals.
> BTW, I have 2 d70 and am not planning on selling either >one. > >>The problem is you go to >>their online galleries and look at the images they have >>posted and think why? > >I think, why not? Who says you have to be a pro to buy the >equipment you want to use?
Hmmm........Now you got me thinking, maybe I'll go out and buy a Phase One P25 Digital Back for my Hasselbald
> >I've ordered the d200, because I want one. That's reason >enough for me.
Hey thats actually a good reason, you realize you want one and don't need one.I wanted a Canon and that was reason enough for me.
>>The D200 is not going to make their eye >>and technique any better > > Quite true. But none of those classes will make your AF >better or give you extra MP for cropping. Better hardware is >better hardware. Skill is a different issue.
Ok but what good is better hardware if you don't know how to use it?Do a serach on Pbase under D2X and you'll find 80% of those images out of focus.Do the same search there for D70 or D100, same thing.If those folks took some interactive photo seminars they could learn to use their equipment better to make their shots look like they were taken with better equipment.Yes those classes CAN make your autofocus better, and CAN teach you to move in closer to your subject so you don't need to crop as much.
>No you actually aren't doing me a service, after using Nikon >for 30 years, I've actually just dived into the Canon DSLR >camp.
Same thing applies to canon. If it weren't for people buying the equipment because they wanted it, canon wouldn't be in the position they're in either.
>Hmmm........Now you got me thinking, maybe I'll go out and >buy a Phase One P25 Digital Back for my Hasselbald
Life's too short to limit yourself when you don't have too, IMO.
>Ok but what good is better hardware if you don't know how to >use it?
Now you're back to the wrong line of thinking. Who cares why someone buys something, so long as it's not your money paying for it?
>Do a serach on Pbase under D2X and you'll find 80% of >those images out of focus.
Yes, but so what? Until they have license and test requirements like they do for driving, it doesn't matter. If they are happy, that's what matters.
>better equipment.Yes those classes CAN make your autofocus >better, and CAN teach you to move in closer to your subject >so you don't need to crop as much.
The classes can improve technique, not hardware. Getting the most out of the equipment you have, is not the same thing as having better equipment. Learning post processing skills can be of significant benefit as well, but it's still no substitute for hardware.
I'm keeping my D100 and getting a D200. If it had been more that $2,000 I would have had to sell it, but I have too much invested in the battery pack, etc. I would also like to do some weddings so I want 2 bodies. Who knows if Nikon thought about that or not when they priced the D200. If it was too high most people would have had to sell their D70 or 100 and that would have ruined the used market and new D70 market, and maybe kept them from buying a D200. Just a thought.
i will definitely NOT be keeping both if i get the d200. i need the money from selling it to finance the purchase of the d200. additionally, i don't have the need for two camera bodies and don't want to get a larger bag (my bag is big and heavy enough). perhaps if i had the money and i did lots of events, i would buy 2 d200's instead
Glad Nikonians is back up. I have been packing for a cross country move and have been out of the loop. What a surprise when I finally had time to log on this morning.
I am stoked that it's finally out. I think the D70s is a great camera outside of the poor performance with action/sports. So, I am going to wait to see how well the CAM1000 works out before deciding $1700 vs. $4500. When you put it like that it makes you wonder if some longer glass my not be in order.
Regardless, I'll keep the D70s.
I look very forward to the Nikonian users reviews.
Have a great day! Ed
I'll quit shooting film when they pry my cold, dead fingers from around my F4s
I'd like to, but my D70 is standing between me and a 28-70 F2.8. After much agonizing, I decided on the 28-70 over the 17-55 because most of the shots I took with the 18-70 kit lens were on the long side (60-70mm).
Soon (I hope) my lens list will be: Tokina 12-24 f4 Nikon 28-70 f2.8 Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VR Nikon 50 f1.4 Tamron 90 f2.8 Macro.
Finances permitting, I may contemplate the 18-200 as a travelling lens if the reviews are positive. The items listed above make for a VERY heavy bag.
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I could use both, and not just for backup. At the weddings I assist on I find I'm swapping lenses at least once during the day. More importantly, there are photos I might be missing simply because I don't have the time to go through the swap procedure. To think that I used to see photographers wearing multiple cameras as overkill...
Will definitely keep my D100 as a second body...and, in fact, if good deals abound on E-Bay, I may pick up a second D100 body for backcountry hiking and climbing. I am a bit nervous about taking my gear in harsh environments (probably a bit compulsive here)...so having an "extra" D100 would be nice. But...will have also have to consult with the household finance department on this one.