As you're all well aware, the D200 is a bit long in the tooth so to speak and I was wondering which model to consider as an upgrade without spending my son's college tuition in order to get it. Sure, we'd all love to have a D800 but it's a bit out of my ability wallet wise.
I was thinking that maybe the D7000 might have enough going for it and I was wondering about the group's thoughts on what I ought to consider. Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts. Yes, my D200 still does a very nice job for me but what if I wanted to work outside the ISO 400 range and not have all of the associated noise that comes with the D200???
If I understand you correctly, your main complaint with the D200 is its poor low light performance. According to your profile, you only have the Nikon 18-200/3.5-5.6 VR which is a fairly slow lens. When I was using DX I got the faster Nikon 70-200/2.8 VR which aside from much improved IQ is two stops faster than the 18-200 at its long end. To get even better low light performance you could get a couple of f/1.4 or f/1.8 prime lenses.
With the right lenses, my old D200 still gives outstanding results. Your "new and improved" camera body will be "old and obsolete" within two years, whereas top level lenses will retain their value or even appreciate.
Thanks for the words! I've updated my profile to include all of the lenses I currently own. I just read an article that says I can still get by with my 18-200 and for the low light times, bring along my 35mm f/1.8. I also have a Tokina 11-16 for the really wide shots. I don't think I can afford the 70-200 despite its speed.
Sat 12-May-12 01:10 AM | edited Sat 12-May-12 01:11 AM by ZoneV
D7000 is close to the level of the D200 body (though smaller and has no PC terminal), but is still a one-generation upgrade. To me, one generation has no real incentive. I supposed if you shoot at ISO 1600 all the time and want less grain, it might be worth it. But other than that, I see little benefit in trading a D200 to a D7000.
>>"D7000 is close to the level of the D200 body (though smaller and has no PC terminal),"<<
Are you saying that the D7000 has no PC terminal? If its USB port isn't a "PC terminal", then what exactly is a PC terminal? I don't mind showing my ignorance if an intelligent answer helps to remove that ignorance.
I have had the D200 since the day it was released in the US and it works as well today as it did then, but I agree it is now a bit long in the tooth. In addition to my 18-200 (which I love for its convenience) I also have some fast glass: 35mm f/2.8; 50mm f/1.4; 17-55 f/2.8; 70-200 f/2.8. However, like you, I still want better high-ISO performance and I also want more dynamic range.
If you don't want to wait to see if a D400 is offered later this year (??) then I would recommend the D7000 - with the caveat that you should hold one first to be sure you like the way it feels and operates. I have heard several reports that some who are used to the build and feel of the D200/D300 did not care for the D7000 (never had the chance to try one myself). If you don't like the feel of the D7000 then I believe the next best option is a new D300s, or used D300/D300s.
Personally I'm waiting to see if there is a D400. If it is not forthcoming by later this year I will probably get a used D300. Although there are several improvements in the D300/s, I just don't believe there are quite enough advantages for me and my "style" to make the new-camera price acceptable. But a good used camera price......
I'm not sure if this is directly related to your issue, but I recently upgraded from a Panasonic ZS7 point-and-shoot to a used D200 with a 50mm f/1.8G lens and it has been absolutely outstanding. I suppose if I already had this camera for years I might be wanting a better one, but for me the reason for purchasing the D200 in the first place was because our ZS7 took such grainy indoor photos that we thought we would have to go to a studio to get decent pics of our 10-month-old son. We could have bought a newer camera, but for just taking better pictures the D200 fit the bill very nicely.
So I guess my question to you is, what are you wanting to do with a newer camera that cannot be done with your D200? Unless you're looking for some specific features of the D7000 that will help your photography (or videography, since it does record at 1024p), you might keep the D200 and invest in some lenses like others have suggested.
But then, I'm all new to this DSLR world so I might have no idea what I'm talking about
Before we bought our D200 I had a conversation with a coworker (who is a professional photographer). It went something like this:
Me: I'm looking at a new D5100, because I like it more than a used D200.
Coworker: What do you like about it?
Me: I like that it's got the same image sensor as the D7000. I just wish it had the build quality and manual control dials of the D200.
Coworker: So why not just get a used D200?
Me: Because...um...it's six years old? Wouldn't a newer camera take better pictures?
Coworker: So, you're saying that six years ago people weren't able to take good photos?
That's not to say a newer camera wouldn't have better features, but I honestly couldn't think of any actual reason why a D200 would not meet our needs. And after having the D200, I would take it any day over a new D5100. However, back to the original point of this thread, perhaps there are some really good reasons OpieCunningham wants a newer model instead of his D200. And if the D200 really doesn't suit his needs anymore (such as wanting better high ISO performance), then yeah, it might be time for an upgrade.
Prices of the D300s are beginning to hit the $900-$950 range, and it is a heck of a camera. I've just decided to sell my D90 and get a D300s so I can stop worrying about a D400 for a while. The prices won't drop so much that I care about it, and ISO 1250 is pretty darn usable.
Heck - a D90 would be a nice tide-over until the D400 announces, and they are cheap! I'm probably going to list mine for $525 when I get back from Europe in three weeks, but it has the same "issue" as the D7000 - the handling is fairly different from the D200. If you got a D7K (or a D90), I doubt that will be an issue for very long.
I almost want to be "stuck" with my D300- I just cannot buy into the perpetual upgrade merry-go-round any longer. This has given me the opportunity to try to work around the D300's rather poor dynamic range, and low light performance, and see how I can work around it.
I shot with slide film for at least 30 years before getting a digital camera, now I have a D300s and I really like the improved low light capability and dynamic range. It's simply the best camera I have ever had. Of course if someone gave me a more capable camera I'd take it.
Last year I rented a D300s for a class. While there were a few nice features that would be nice, (Live View, dual memory card slots, virtual horizon), the image quality was pretty close to my D200. But since it was a landscape class, ISO 100/200 was where I lived.
That being said, I did recently upgrade to the D800. I am keeping my D200 though.
i've very recently made the move to a full frame D3 but still have my 2 DX bodys. a D2Xs & a D200. i'm kinda thinking i need to sell one of my DX bodys as realistically i'm not going to ever carry 3 bodys when i'm out & i also often have my Leica around my neck so really i only ever carry one DSLR. common sense says keep the D2Xs as the button layout etc & batteries are the same BUT there's a part of me that still loves the D200 & its CCD sensor. i dont want to sell any of them but how many bodys are justifiable? i recently bought 3 DX lenses with one of them being the pretty expensive 17-55 f/2.8 so unless i want to lose a chunk of money straight away selling that used i need to at least think about keeping that lens on one of them & taking it along. i bought a bigger bag not long ago & man that things heavy (even leaving one at home) i think i'm going to need a van for my gear soon! D200 or D2Xs? which one stays & which one goes? hard choice :/
I would upgrade glass rather than camera. D200 is well capable camera and I am really sorry that I have sold my last year. Even as 2nd or 3rd body its great camera. I like shooting with it. Currently shooting with D300 & D700, but also wishing to upgrade to D800 and some other glas, but that can wait little bit more.