At a new Nikon User's group tonight, started by our local dealer, it was announced the D400 will be formally announced the end of March and deliveries will start in May. The price will be similar to the D300S although he is precluded by a NDA from giving it out before the formal announcement. He is taking orders starting tomorrow.
"D400 Announced"...so your DEALER made the announcement, not Nikon. Interestingly, I went online and I found no hint that any others dealers are "taking orders" or announcing that they will be taking orders starting tomorrow. Please provide us a link to your dealer so that your fellow Nikonians can be some of the very first to buy the D400.
"Stupidity is a gift from God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II
Initially he gave no link to the users group or the camera store it wasn't until he was prodded that he gave that information. So I am not sure it is against the ToU since he was providing information he was asked to. It does not seem he was promoting his site or store.
That said if you link to a group you should be a Nikonian webring and have a link back to Nikonians. But since its not in his signature and I have not seen him use it before now I do not think its against the ToU.
Last it seems he was just mentioning something he heard in good faith nothing different than any other rumor. So I wouldn't be so harsh, the D700 forum was full of rumors prior to release of the D800.
Nikon is prohibited by many security regulators from disclosing inside information that could affect the stock price.There are also Japanese commercial laws that require commercial businesses to perform as they announce product availability. Nikon is very quite about there new product offerings until they have a firm ship date. Nikon has announced, after they announced the shipment date of the D4 that they may have to delay shipments since they have found an issue with the firmware for the camera. Nikon has even shipped cameras before they could provide software for processing the NEF files taken by the camera to meet the expected ship date.
Until Nikon formally announces the product, specs, price and shipping date, I would consider anything presented as pure rumor.
Yes I expect a DX format to replace the D300 series, and would expect the name to be "D400" but that also could change.
>Dennis, > >This is not the "Nikon Rumours" forum. Your post >title would have been better received if you had said >"Just heard some gossip about a D400" > >706 folk are now wishing they had skipped your post. > >Sorry if I have offended you. > >Ian > > Whan the GM of an established camera store announces a new product and is taking orders for the product, in my book, that's not a rumor. I am number 6 on the list for the D400.
I'm not offended, but I wish I had not shared this news with Nikonians. I feel as though I posted this on a lawyers forum, not a Nikon forum.
No, I don't take offense at some people quibbling about the subject, I just don't agree. The Nikon Users' Group is a monthly meeting at the dealer's location and doesn't compete with anything.
Whan the GM of an established camera store announces a new product and is taking orders for the product, in my book, that's not a rumor. I am number 6 on the list for the D400.
Is the new product reality? If not it is a rumour. Because a good number of members view a thread It doesn't mean they all like it. To me it looks like a sales pitch to drum up business. Then again I wasn't there so I could be wrong?
>Some of the replies I read on this post are not the kind of >replies I like to see. If people want to express their >doubt,good but there is always a way to do it. > > >>face="Comic Sans MS"]Jaclegau >>face="Comic Sans MS"]Modérateur Nikonians >>face="Comic Sans MS"]Nikonians®, l'endroit où >rencontrer les photographes Nikon® du monde entier >"Partager, Apprendre et Inspirer..."
If you are replying as a moderator then perhaps you would enlighten us with your "way to do it"?
>Whan the GM of an established camera store announces a new >product and is taking orders for the product, in my book, >that's not a rumor. I am number 6 on the list for the D400. > >Unquote > >Is the new product reality? If not it is a rumour. Because a >good number of members view a thread It doesn't mean they all >like it. To me it looks like a sales pitch to drum up >business. Then again I wasn't there so I could be wrong? > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/43019448@N04/
Dennis, I AM A LAWYER - and I was one who did not say a word against you (BEFORE you started complaining about replies) - exactly because here is a Nikon fans forum and not a court room. But fellow nikonians ARE right - there is nothing wrong with your interesting message - ONLY with the title. Evreybody can expect that "D400 is announced" means it is announced by Nikon Corp. itself. This makes the title of your message - a rumor. I personally enjoy rumors about new Nikon products, but many others do not. On the other hand, many interested people would gladly read your message - if it was named properly. Sorry.
I'm a amatuer sports photographer and want video, and want to properly supplement my D200. My D70sw is going to my daughter and replace it with upgrade body, like my D200, or a D300 or the D5100, but don't want to spend over $1,000. I want the video feature, especially the ability to shoot short HD clips to accompany my slide shows. I own a Nikon AF 70-200 VR F2.8, and a new Sigma AF 18-50 F2.8. Recommendations? Bob
I expect a "D400" when officially announced, with have a price significantly above $1,000. At that point, used D300Ss will be available within your price point.As for lenses for video, get a nice prime.
>Isn't "4" a bad luck number? Maybe there will >never be a D400--It might be a D500!! This whole discussion >may be moot! > >Seriously, though, with 300s at $1399, and 700 at $2199, I can >see 400 (or 500) at $1899. (Why do corporations insult our >intelligence with all those 9s?)
If "4" is a bad luck number, we are already doomed with the ... "D4"
Yeah--Nikon went ahead and did F4, and D4, but some wondered if they would. Actually, many Japanese baseball players will not wear a "4" or any number with a 4 in it. Remember "Mr. Baseball" starring Tom Selleck? The equipment manager of his team, the Chunichi Dragons, gave him #44 when he arrived in Japan to play. Warm welcome, huh?
>I'm a amatuer sports photographer and want video, and want to >properly supplement my D200. My D70sw is going to my daughter >and replace it with upgrade body, like my D200, or a D300 or >the D5100, but don't want to spend over $1,000. I want the >video feature, especially the ability to shoot short HD clips >to accompany my slide shows. I own a Nikon AF 70-200 VR F2.8, >and a new Sigma AF 18-50 F2.8. Recommendations? >Bob > Bob,
You will need to get a separate microphone or use a portable digital recorder when using your 70-200mm in VR mode. The D300s built-in mic easily picks up the sound of the VR motor.
Fri 23-Mar-12 02:10 AM | edited Fri 23-Mar-12 02:14 AM by grizzly200
It was supposed to be a joke--that's why I used the little smiley face Like the old saw about hotels in the US not having a 13th floor. And I didn't know 9 was also considered unlucky. Good info, Jeff! Maybe no D900
My goodness, holy...what a bunch of nonsense you guys are talking and arguing about! Don't you have anything better to do? something that will make you productive instead of wining about something that may be or may not be true? In the future I'll have to be much more selective as to what posts I'll read. Lucky devils to have so much time on your hands that you can afford to engage in such meaningless gossip. JPC
Sun 25-Mar-12 01:45 AM | edited Sun 25-Mar-12 01:50 AM by grizzly200
Wow! There is a place for superstition in this world!!! ...AND wHining!! Besides, I have to be so serious and professional on the job all the time, I enjoy gossiping mindlessly with you folks in my leisure time!
Now that you mention it, it is a little Canon-esque isn't it. And now that you mention it, I don't like the look.....no need for a cutting edge technical device to look organic in my opinion....not that I'm opposed to cutting edge industrial design....I love Apple after all. Fortunately, when it comes to DSLRs I'm all about function and care little about form.
As long as the D400 doesn't require beige lenses I'll be okay with it.
Tue 03-Apr-12 06:20 AM | edited Tue 03-Apr-12 08:30 AM by XBrendan
Just curious here, the original poster said the D400 would be announced by the end of march and....we're in April now, but no sign of the beast. So I'm guessing the info was, maybe, not so accurate don't you think?
ps: I'm eagerly waiting for some news about the D400 too as I'm thinking of upgrading my good old D70 from 2004.
Hi, Well I have just sold my D300 with a 18-200 lens to a friend of my mine who is going overseas for an extended holiday - and I had promised to let him have it for some time. So I will have to use my old D200 body while waiting for the D400 and the 16-85 f4 zoom to be released. Does the fact that the D300s (discontinued) and that the 16-85 f3.5-5.6 is no longer available from B&H or Adorama indicate that these updates are imminent? Or is this merely wishful thinking?
>Hi, >Well I have just sold my D300 ... So I will >have to use my old D200 body while waiting for the D400 and >the 16-85 f4 zoom to be released. Does the fact that the >D300s (discontinued) and that the 16-85 f3.5-5.6 is no longer >available from B&H or Adorama indicate that these updates >are imminent? Or is this merely wishful thinking?
Nikon Rumors is saying that Nikon will announce the release of the D3200 on the 16th-17th of this month. If that is so, I believe it will be May before we will see the D400.
I think you mean the Nikon D300s is no longer being sold in Japan. It is still being sold in the rest of the world and listed on the Nikon USA site. Since Japan passed a law that requires the electrical contacts on LiON batteries be designed to prevent direct shorts when the battery is out of the device it is intended to operate in due to the dangerous overheating of the battery when the terminal are short circuited.
As for B&H "Out of Stock" is different than "discontinued".
Nikon has just been able to get their Thailand manufacturing plants operating at normal production levels, but they have a over a 4 month backlog to fill before the distribution level return to normal.
As time goes by and not even a rumor of a D400, I think it's now less & less likely there will ever be one. I'm about ready to just take the plunge, a deep one at that, for the D800. I'm sure this is probably Nikon's strategy. Get all the serious shooters into FX, spend thousands on new lenses, and leave DX for casual photography.
The D800 has great reviews, but as one of my main interests is Bird Photography I would be very reluctant to move away from the advantages for me of DX, so the D7000 would probably be my fall back position. I will wait a couple more months before making a decision.
Wow Mike, perfect timing on that post ^^ I was just thinking the same thing, we are on the same page. I have been waiting for a upgrade to the D300 for a long time, it is way over due compared to other bodies. I shoot lots of wild life to so the DX is important to me but better high iso images is more so. I am actually toying with the idea of going full frame and selling my 200-400 to fund a D800e & sigma 50-500 or 150-500 which should put me about where I am now with reach but even better so with the 36mp and a big boost in cleaner higher ISO images.
>Wow Mike, perfect timing on that post ^^ I was just thinking >the same thing, we are on the same page. I have been waiting >for a upgrade to the D300 for a long time, it is way over due >compared to other bodies. I shoot lots of wild life to so the >DX is important to me but better high iso images is more so. I >am actually toying with the idea of going full frame and >selling my 200-400 to fund a D800e & sigma 50-500 or >150-500 which should put me about where I am now with reach >but even better so with the 36mp and a big boost in cleaner >higher ISO images.
Scott, I too would like better ISO and a larger buffer for nature photography. I am waiting on the D400 specs before deciding which route to take.
I have the D7000 with the Sigma 50-500. In good light they are a killer duo. In low, early morning or misty light, I have to push the ISO to 1600. At 1600 the cropped birds are often too noisy for my tastes.
Sat 07-Apr-12 12:10 PM | edited Sat 07-Apr-12 12:13 PM by Bump57
I here ya John. I picked up the D7000 once at a local camera shop, it was much too small for my hands. All my shots of wildlife have been taken hand held, I have tried tripods and don't care for them while shooting BIF. I have been in the building industry all my life, the last 33 years. Not super old but I am now 50 and the body is telling me it doesn't need to be hand holding the 200-400 all day anymore so I have been thinking about selling it for a while anyway. I thought I would wait for the D400 spec's to show up before I sold it, this was over a year ago. I shoot a lot of landscape stuff as well and print large so was also looking for more pixels, I was hoping it was going to be 24mp for the D300 replacement. So, much better ISO and 24mp and I would stay DX. But the delay of the D300 replacement has me looking at the D800 with 36mp. It has got me thinking for sure. I even thought about looking to see what Canon had to offer. Just tired of waiting I guess.
Hehehe. Dealers are typically the very last to know about new products. Most Nikon sales reps only "know" rumours until they are called in for a sales meeting prior to introduction. NDAs go to major media like Pop Photo or DPReview, not little Podunk camera stores with big-mouthed employees who pre-announce stuff they don't have a clue about. It's entirely possible that huge retailers such as B&H get some orientation prior to announcement, but they are not going to blab. I do know dealers who were taking pre-orders on the Nikon D800 and D400 for almost a year each -- anything to get you visiting the store regularly.
I signed a few NDAs before I discovered they were too limiting and more trouble than they were worth. No one will risk their NDA status by announcing anything. Back in the dark ages, I once got in trouble with Microsoft for even hinting I was under non-disclosure (all I actually did was use a secret code name for a product.) Another vendor called me up because some idiot happened to spot an unreleased product in my office, and then called the vendor to ask for one because he was a hot-shot developer. Geoff from Nikon once called me because one my futuristic blog posts wasn't clear that it was just speculation on my part, and my predication was uncannily, but only coincidentally spot-on, and he wanted to make sure there wasn't a leak. I made sure I added a few IMHOs in the future.
All in all, your camera dealer is your second-worst source of information about upcoming products, behind only the "guy who knows somebody who knows somebody who works in the factory." Pros working under NDAs won't tell you. Sometimes folks in the factories do leak stuff, but it quickly turns up on NikonRumours.com. Speculation is a heck of a lot of fun, but not something to base buying decisions on.
While we still have no D400, I did get something positive from this thread; a link to an actual brick and mortar camera shop near my town! Thanks to the OP! I finally have a place I can go to actually see what cameras look and feel like before I buy them!
I continue to await the D400. For me, it is already two years+ late. I had some hope for the D800, but price and wrong features eliminated that one. Still trying to maintain optimism that the D400 will be an appropriate replacement for the D300. Time will tell
That's the winning combination for wildlife shooters...highest APS-c resolution AND highest burst speed. A D300 with 24fps -- and even better 51 point 3D AF mode capability -- if that is possible -- would be the dream camera for me. I've been hoping for it since Nikon chose to stick video in the D300 instead of upgrading the camera to D400.
Last night at a meeting my dealer said the D4, D800 and D400 are made in Japan. All other Nikon SLRs are made in Thailand. Nikon is really busy making at least 800 bodies (I guess the D4) for the Olympics this summer, so the D400 is delayed. He is getting some D800 models in and predicts August for the D400. I am #6 on the D400 list. He says, by the time a model is announced, they already have a production run awaiting shipment to dealiers. Two months ago the D400 was scheduled to announce at the end of March with May deliveries, and they had a delay. :<( So I'll just wait...
Today this came in from my dealer Nikon announced their new entry level D-SLR the Nikon D3200. It is a 24.2mp camera and you may now infer that the D400 will be capable of comparable resolution.
I would expect the D400 to be made in Thailand just like the D200 and D300. This dealer sounds like he's making things up as he goes along. However, given the troubles in Thailand maybe Nikon was forced to shift manufacturing to Japan.....so maybe there is some truth to this.
If they do have to manufacture the D400 in Japan I would expect one of two consequences. The first is that the price is going to be higher than expected. I would expect a D400 to be just shy of $2k. If made in Japan it may go higher. Which would stink...and start to encroach into D800 territory. OR Nikon makes them in Japan and eats the higher production costs.
Hope it is option number two. I really don't want to have to agonize over D400 vs D800 if they are close in price.
For what I do (right now) I prefer the DX format.....but the D800 can be shot in DX mode.....
I'm sorry...but after this much time has elapsed, it seems unavoidable to conclude that Nikon has chosen to ignore this segment of its market. The D300s was never an upgrade for the D300...except for the YouTube video makers, and few of them I'd bet. The D300s which have been sold were the result of those buyers not having a choice, if they wanted the top of the line prosumer APS-c DSLR.
And the D800 is tangential, not sequential to the D300. It does not carry forward the features of the D300; it is for a different market segment. That some D300 users have bought the D800 can be put down in many cased to...wait for it...AGAIN, no other choice.
I waited, and waited, was frustrated, expressed frustration, and final threw in the towel. My DSLR cash fund went instead to Sony, for a prosumer level video camera. I'll remain in the DSLR dead end that the D300 has so far led to.
It brings a wry smile to my face every time someone suggests that the D400 is just around the corner. It isn't, of course, but for me, and numerous others, it no longer matters.
>I'm sorry...but after this much time has elapsed, it seems >unavoidable to conclude that Nikon has chosen to ignore this >segment of its market. The D300s was never an upgrade for the >D300...except for the YouTube video makers, and few of them >I'd bet. The D300s which have been sold were the result of >those buyers not having a choice, if they wanted the top of >the line prosumer APS-c DSLR. > >And the D800 is tangential, not sequential to the D300. It >does not carry forward the features of the D300; it is for a >different market segment. That some D300 users have bought >the D800 can be put down in many cased to...wait for >it...AGAIN, no other choice. > >I waited, and waited, was frustrated, expressed frustration, >and final threw in the towel. My DSLR cash fund went instead >to Sony, for a prosumer level video camera. I'll remain in >the DSLR dead end that the D300 has so far led to. > >It brings a wry smile to my face every time someone suggests >that the D400 is just around the corner. It isn't, of course, >but for me, and numerous others, it no longer matters. > >(you can check out my photographic bona fides at: > >www.flickr.com/vidterry )
Here's the thing - with the tsunami and the floods in Thailand, Nikon almost certainly had to make some choices about which platforms they needed to prioritize, and I'm guessing the D400 lost. Maybe they killed it entirely. Maybe they postponed it. Maybe they merged it with the also-rumored D600 (which, basd on the specs I've seen sounds a lot more like a four-digit model/D800 than a three-digit model/D600, but whatever). Who knows? I sincerely doubt Nikon's intention is to frustrate you or make poor choices. Businesses have to make hard decisions sometimes, and frankly I'm astounded how well Nikon navigated the two disasters.
Funny how some folks seem to NEED to personalize their interactions.
OF COURSE Nikon didn't make any marketing decisions to frustrate me. My frustration is a result of the decisions Nikon has made. And OF COURSE the natural disasters have affected Nikons production of equipment. And yes indeed, until Nikon announces a model, there is no certainty that a model will ever exist.
My level of frustration comes from the fact that long ago (in camera generation terms) Nikon chose to NOT advance the D300 to a D400, and thus compete with / surpass the Canon 7D. Instead, Nikon decided to move laterally, and reduce the D300 to a YouTube camera...taking out some still photography features and inserting video. That delayed development of a legitimate step forward for the top of the line APS-c prosumer camera.
THEN the disasters hit, stabbing new products in the heart.
My two pro camera shops -- the ones in my area -- still cannot get a D800 for store stock. Remarkably, they have all of the Canon stock they need, and continue to sell it well.
> >My level of frustration comes from the fact that long ago (in >camera generation terms) Nikon chose to NOT advance the D300 >to a D400, and thus compete with / surpass the Canon 7D. >Instead, Nikon decided to move laterally, and reduce the D300 >to a YouTube camera...taking out some still photography >features and inserting video. That delayed development of a >legitimate step forward for the top of the line APS-c prosumer >camera. > I am not familiar with the D300, but own a D200 and the D300S. I can't follow you point on what was taken out, the D300S is so much more capable the the D200.
Wed 23-May-12 01:08 AM | edited Wed 23-May-12 01:11 AM by N80
I agree with Terry completely.
It is probably too much to expect of a large company, and it may not even be possible, but it would sure be nice if Nikon could at least throw some little tidbit to its DX users. I'm not asking for specific specs, specific times or even a specific name. But some statement of intent would be reassuring even if it is just to say to the high end DX users, "hang on, trust us, you'll be glad you did" or "DX is for consumer level shooters, if you want to move beyond that with Nikon it will need to be with FX". It is one thing to be secretive but still deliver big and on time like Apple typically does. It is quite another to be silent and not deliver at all.
I've been a Nikon user and dedicated fan for a long time. I've been member of Nikonians from almost the start. I went on the very first ANPAT and had the privilege of being a moderator here for quite some time.
And this is the first time Nikon has given me cause to doubt their ability to meet my needs. I have been frustrated with Nikon before. That's no big deal. But now I'm starting to lose confidence and that is a big deal. For now, I'll hang on and expect big things. How long? I don't know.
Someone mentioned taking a deep breath. Which is good advice because if you're holding your breath for a D400 you're not looking too good right about now.
“….and reduce the D300 to a YouTube camera...taking out some still photography features and inserting video.”
I am with John here. What “still photography features” do you think were removed from the D300 in order to add video to the D300s?
I own both cameras and I cannot find anything missing from the D300s. In fact the D300s get 1 more frame per second burst speed. I also prefer separate button for Live View, the improved center button on the multi selector and the latch-less CF card door on the D300s.
I never shoot video but I still prefer to use my D300s over the D300 even though the IQ is identical.
I agree the “D400” is way overdue however I don’t believe that the release of the D300s contributed to the D400 delay.
>I own both cameras and I cannot find anything missing from the >D300s. In fact the D300s get 1 more frame per second burst >speed. I also prefer separate button for Live View, the >improved center button on the multi selector and the >latch-less CF card door on the D300s. > >I never shoot video but I still prefer to use my D300s over >the D300 even though the IQ is identical.
Slightly offtopic from OP, but maybe relevant for us looking to possilby upgrade from D90 and remain DX...
I've noticed that on the Nikon website that a refurbished D300 is more money than a refurbished D300s, any reason why?
Nikon is a business. When you have limited resources, you prioritize based on profits and opportunity.
I don't have visibility to Nikon's volumes, but I'd guess the D300s has never been a high-volume camera for them. I'd go as far as to say it is the lowest volume platform other than the D3x. Also, I work in the technology industry, so I understand fairly well how far in advance these kinds of products are planned and how delicate some of these supply chains can be for custom, fairly low-volume products.
But whatever, what I'm trying to say is I think your frustration is a little pointless. I'm not saying that to be mean or challenging, just honest. I'd really, really like to have a D400 as well, but my career background gives me the opportunity to look at it from a business perspective - I can understand their decisions. I can wait. My current camera still works fine.
As for the D800 debacle, I think Nikon is getting a bad rap. There is only so much production capacity they can afford to build - it doesn't make sense to build extra for a short-term bubble. Building up stock before the announce has significant financial implications (many countries tax inventory, etc.). Lots of people have three or four on order in different places and will cancel the others when they get one, or worse go on Buy/Sell boards and try to make a quick buck. The 5DMkIII isn't the big leap from the MkII that the D800 is from the D700. No surprise there isn't a massive swing to the stores, thus less demand, thus better supply. (I'm not implying that the 5DMkIII isn't a good or successful product BTW).
For everyone complaining about the D800 inventory, I'm yet to hear a suggestion that is viable from a business, legal and financial perspective (I haven't even heard many real suggestions beyond "they should make more."). I wish it was legal for them to require a non-refundable cash deposit for the early orders. That would clear out the multi-orderers and the quick-buck guys. Unfortunately it would make too many people mad and I doubt they can legally require it of their resellers.
For my money, this post could have ended right here. Boom. It's as simple as that.
>But whatever, what I'm trying to say is I think your >frustration is a little pointless.
>I'd really, really like to >have a D400 as well...I can wait...My current camera >still works fine.
And this is the crux of the matter isn't it. If your career depends on you having a camera similar to what the D400 offers, then you go buy that similar camera. If the 7D has the specs you need, go buy it. When I needed a DSLR for my films, Nikon didn't have anything suitable. So I bought Canon's. Whatever. Years ago, when Canon didn't address their AF issues in the 1DMk3, many pros jumped to the D3/D3s. That is what pros do. If the D300/s is no longer meeting the need, go buy something that does. Sony a77 shoots 12fps at 24MP.
>As for the D800 debacle, I think Nikon is getting a bad rap.
I fail to see any debacle. Nikon made as many D800s as they could. It's probably the hottest camera on the market. A few had issues. It happens.
>For everyone complaining about the D800 inventory, I'm yet to >hear a suggestion that is viable from a business, legal and >financial perspective (I haven't even heard many real >suggestions beyond "they should make more.").
Nor will you. Just a few blowhards second guessing Nikon. Half of them don't have the cash on hand to buy the D400 if it was announced tomorrow.
> I >wish it was legal for them to require a non-refundable cash >deposit for the early orders. That would clear out the >multi-orderers and the quick-buck guys. Unfortunately it >would make too many people mad and I doubt they can legally >require it of their resellers.
Good suggestion though. Though I would suspect the people looking to turn a quick profit off the sales would not be dissuaded.
The present great cycle spanning 3113 B.C. – 2012 A.D. was called the "Age of the Fifth Sun" by the Mayans. Although their calendar goes no further than December 21, 2012, signifying the end of the world, the Mayans termed the infinite, lifeless void after this cycle the "Age of the D400".
"Stupidity is a gift from God, but one mustn't misuse it" - Pope John Paul II
>Nikon is a business. When you have limited resources, you >prioritize based on profits and opportunity.
>But whatever, what I'm trying to say is I think your >frustration is a little pointless. I'm not saying that to be >mean or challenging, just honest.
You can't have it both ways. If we agree that Nikon is just a business then we must also agree that the market is, well, the market. And the market is composed of consumers like me. If we remove emotion from the formula, which your statement above ("Nikon is a business") suggests you agree with, then consumer frustration, or even worse, apathy, is the worst possible outcome. The consumer does not, and should not care what types of hard decisions Nikon is faced with or that they have had to make "Sophie's Choice" over which line of electronics to focus on.
Expecting the consumer to be understanding of the cold hard facts of business is a bit more pointless than a consumer being frustrated when a company does not deliver the product he desires.
For very few of us are these cameras part of life's necessities or even our fiscal overhead. And even for those of us who are professionals, Nikon is not the only game in town. Which is to say that for most of us the D400 will be another electronic device that we want or own because it is fun. There is no reason for anyone to justify wanting a D400 over a D300 because there was never any real necessity for the D300 or the D200 or the F100.
So sure, my D200 still works great. But I want a D400 and that desire needs no rationalization or justification. And if Nikon doesn't make one then I can't buy one. And that's really all there is to it.
Well I've given up waiting for the D400, looking forward to exploring my D7000 which is now in the mail, not worrying about publicised focus issues as I remember exactly the same things being said about the D200 when it first came out. I also had a little trouble then, but in the end it turned out to be a matter of my own poor handling techniques.
>How do you know you want a D400 if you don't know what the >D400 will be like? Just because it wil be latest model?
Sounds like a poignant question. But it isn't. (I suspect it was meant to be rhetorical somehow, but since it really doesn't make a valid point it isn't a very good rhetorical question either.
First, I know what my D200 can do. I also know what a D300 can do. Having spent a good many years watching Nikon film and digital bodies evolve it is reasonable, obviously, to expect that the D400 (or whatever it might be called) will build upon and improve upon those two 'former' bodies. It is very reasonable, given the evolution of other bodies outside of the D100 lineage, to expect that the D400 will have superior high ISO performance to the D300 and vastly superior to the D200. I want that.
>By that reakoning you must already own a D1, D2, D3 and D4; >not to mention a D100, D200, D300, D700 and D800...
We have a regional conference each July and there are nikon reps there. They told us no uncertain terms that unless nikon announces it first, that you cannot rely on it. I save myself much consternation by waiting.
I think this thread started off badly, but seems to have improved with time. Nikon Rumors claims it might be a 24 MP, 9 FPS DX camera. If so it would have a place in Nikons line up that a D800 or D600 won't cover. Especially if you're a sports shooter that needs 8 or 9 FPS and can't come up with $6K for a D4. My guess is Nikon has one more pro level DX camera coming and this fall seems like a reasonable time frame.
>I think this thread started off badly, but seems to have >improved with time. Nikon Rumors claims it might be a 24 MP, 9 >FPS DX camera. If so it would have a place in Nikons line up >that a D800 or D600 won't cover. Especially if you're a sports >shooter that needs 8 or 9 FPS and can't come up with $6K for a >D4. My guess is Nikon has one more pro level DX camera coming >and this fall seems like a reasonable time frame.
But... according to the D800 forum, nobody needs more than 4fps. Improve your timing man!