I have my primary slot set up to use CF and secondary card as 'Overflow' (and video).
On two occasions now, I have discovered that when my CF card fills up, the following occurs:
1) the D300s continues to shoot, but I may or may not get an error message in my viewfinder. 2) If I use the Playback button to review my photos, I get an error about "cannot read card". 3) I had to manually set Primary Slot to SD to enable images to be stored on the SD card.
I thought the whole idea of "overflow" is when the primary slot fills up, it automatically switches over to the secondary slot?
I never had the chance to fill up my 16GB CF. I will try it tonight with my 256MB CF which I use for camera settings backup. Did you format your SD card in your camera? Is there an SD icon in the small LCD panel indicating that the SD card is recognized by the camera?
You might want to confirm that in the Custom settings menu #f10 No Memory Card? is set to Release Locked that way the shutter will not be released unless there is a memory card(s) installed and there is space on the card(s). Are you sure that the SD card is not locked? Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!
I just tested the function using an old 256MB CF and a 4GB SD. Set the file format to RAW 14-bit and was able to take 14 shots before the CF was filled up. Then it showed that 146 shots available. I took the 15th shot and it was stored in the SD.
I tested with a 1GB CF card from my D70. It switches over very nicely. Working as designed.
I have a problem with a 16GB CF card, so I decided to try with another 16GB CF card to see if I get the same result.
The answer is "Yes". I tried the following:
1) Inserted a brand new 16GB CF card. When the count reached about 14 shots, it displayed "CHA" instead of number of photos left. If you press the Playback button, it says "This memory card cannot be used. Card may be damaged. Insert another card."
If you wait a couple of seconds and press the Playback button again, it works fine.
2) Thinking that maybe I used the card straight out of the box without formatting it, I decided to format the card in camera.
I repeated the test and again, when the count reached about 14 shots, the same thing happened.
So I can say it's consistently happening to 16GB CF cards, since I've tried two now.
I'm using Sandisk Extreme III CF 16GB cards.
Maybe it's to do with having a higher speed?
Can someone try with a 16GB CF card in primary slot and see if problem occurs for you?
How does one go about reporting it as a bug to Nikon?
I'm using the new 8 and 16GB Extreme 60MB/s version (which is replacing the Extreme IV) without any problems. Find a way to be able to test your CF cards on another D300s. Do both 16GB CF cards work well on your D70? 14 frames on a 16GB card.
What happens if you try the other settngs like Backup and RAW primary-JPG secondary? Have you upgraded the firmware? Use your 1GB CF for the upgrade unless already done.
Just a thought. Is your battery fully charged or in good condition? It's possible that there's some sort of power loss (maybe due to bad contacts) while the camera is writing to the card.
>Or by "without any problems" you mean you are just using them (but not yet filled up the cards) without any problem?
I checked the functionality of the overflow option with my old 256MB & 1GB CFs. I'll check tonight with my 8 & 16 GB CFs. If you have an SD card set it as the primary so it overflows to the CF. This way you'll find out if it has something to do with the CF slot. If it still happens then its most likely a firmware issue. Worst scenario would be a defective electronics board. Speaking of firmware, mine came with version 1.0.0. I ordered my D300s before Christmas but received it only just in time for New Year's eve since the cheapest reliable supplier run out of stock. Latest firmware version is 1.0.1.
The firmware upgrade to 1.0.1 did the trick! So it was a firmware problem!
The notes for 1.0.1 says:
- Support for 64 GB memory cards has been added. - When the Multi-Power Battery Pack MB-D10 was used with AA batteries, the battery indicator showed that MB-D10 batteries were exhausted or power supply switched to the battery inserted in the camera even when sufficient charge remained with the MB-D10 batteries. This issue has been resolved. - When some memory cards were inserted in the camera, “CHA” was displayed in the top control panel and images could not be captured. This issue has been resolved.
I just tried the same test and this time, it didn't stop at 14 shots remaining. It went all the way down to 1 and then switched over to the SD card.
Thanks very much everyone for all your suggestions!
I enjoy my D300s - with 16GB, it takes about 900+ photos so not really a problem, just annoying, especially when it'll happily let you press the shutter down but won't actually record any images.
I don't have any 64GB card. I pasted the features fixed in 1.0.1 to show the CHA problem fixed, even though I don't have a problem when I inserted the cards, only when the cards are just about full. But maybe I'm taking what they had written too literally?
Anyway, I figured there's still a remote chance it could be related. And it did.
I didnt mention the battery, this pretty clearly isnt a power issue.
A bent pin carrying part of the memory address could give exactly that sort of problem (ie a low part of the card capacity works fine, anything above that line is inaccessible - but hey you dont have to take anyones advice here at all, if you dont want to check the pins then fine. Im an engineer, I rule things out by testing and checking, not by assuming.
I didn't say you mentioned the battery. I was replying to both comments in one post. Maybe that's the wrong thing to do on a forum but I'm new to this, so sorry if I didn't follow the right etiquette.
Yes, I don't have to take anyone's advice here. But it wasn't that I didn't want to take your advice. From what I've read, people with the bent pin problem seems to affect any size of cards, while I've checked and tested it with two 16GB cards and the results was consistent. I figured it has something to do with the higher capacity cards. I was going to try with 8GB cards next.
I also read elsewhere it was a problem on the D3 which Nikon put out a firmware fix, though not a successful one.
Now that you gave me a reason that a bent pin could give a consistent problem, then that's fine, I've checked it out and there's no bent pin.
There's no need to get upset about it. Just exchanging ideas here.