I usually order from bhphotovideo.com which has excellent service and you will usually have the goods in two or three days if you choose delivery by DHL (I guess this is the same for Finland as Norway).
They will hopefully accept orders for the D200 by next week.
Yep. That's Finland folks. I order my gear from Germany (technikdirekt for example) and pay 25-30% less... I'm also thinking about ordering from the states, but I have to calculate the taxes. And that's when the fun begins - if you buy spare-batteries for film cameras from USA to Finland you pay taxes, but for some odd reason _digital_ camera batteries are duty free.
The problem is the worldwide guarantee. I just happen to have information that although the local import company repairs "gray market" goods thay will allways be the last in the line. I don't know if this has now changed as the official service company in Finland was changed a while ago.
Ok, I do know that buying from Germany etc. is killing the local shops and I do try to keep them in mind - I even bought my 90x in the late 90's from a local shop but if we are talking about 500euros price difference - forget it.
Writing from Budapest, Hungary. I have a D100 oiginating from the USA. Nikon Hungary does take it for any repairs but no warranty with non-Hungarian purchases so I must pay for any repairs. This concerns small things like CCD cleaning, too, let alone more serious repairs. CCD cleaning used to cost me some 10 euros. Had I purchased my D100 here, it would have been free. Others already described what gains and losses you may face when buying the camera from a US source.
>I just got a confirmation of the price in Finland. 2200 >Euros (about 2600 US$!!!).
which shop? I got the same quote from Rajala Camera. I'm not prepared to pay a premium like that just so that I can get the camera over the counter.
I bought my D100 from technikdirekt.de, no problem. But they aren't very good in communicating how much they have stuff in stock, and you may end up waiting a long time (happened to a friend of mine).
topfoto-online.de is also reliable, I bought a SB-600 plus assorted stuff from there.
RE buying from the US, the VAT and taxes will bring the dollar:euro ratio to 1:1, additionally you need to get a new plug for the charger. If the price in Germany will settle to around 1700 euros, no point in buying from the US.
Rajala Camera didn't even reply to my inquiry. I visited their shop in Helsinki and they said around 2200,-. When I asked do we really have to pay 500,- extra, they almost threw me out.
Kalefoto was more friendly and their price is also a bit lower (1995 Euros). When I told them that Nikon's finish web pages say 1699,-, they lowered the price to 1595,-. But unfortunately Nikon changed the recommended price to 2200,- and Kalefoto had to raise their price back to 1995 Euros.
Other finish shops don't know anything. One even replied that D200 is not announced yet.
I have used Foto-Koch.de once without problems. They even seem to have D200 on their list already. I have also heard positive comments of Technikdirect.
If you buy from Germany, you have to pay the difference in VATs (22% in Finland, 16% in Germany). Still I think it's easier than from US and about the same price.
I live in southern Sweden. I have just ordered my D200 from scandinavianphoto.com. The price I got was excellent, especially when considering the favorable exchange rate to U.S. Dollars. Delivery is expected in mid Decamber.
I am not sure what exchange rate you are getting, but I have placed my order at what seems to be a reasonable price. I think http://www.scandinavianphoto.se/ will deliver to Finalnd if you wish to order from them.
New items appear on web sites and in magazine articles long before they are actually shipped from the manufacturer. In addition, catalogs and advertisements including B&H's go to press weeks or even months before customers get to see them.
Information concerning the availability, inventory quantities and delivery dates, is something that manufacturers guard very intently. Very often we find out a new item is shipping when it appears on our loading dock. Manufacturers do not share their secrets with B&H nor any other retailer.
When the D200 does become available, it will be listed on our web site. We receive too many requests to keep "pre order lis! ts" or to call back customers when product becomes available."
>they irritating part is warranty. > >Nikon doesnt work with its own distributors. Instead you >will have distributors per country. > >If the serial number indicates that it was not sold via >them, they will not handle warranty claims.
IANAL, but as long as you stay within the EU, directive 1999/44/EC applies.
A consumer has at least two years to point out faults that were there when they bought a product. If a fault appears in the first six months, the seller has to prove the product was in good condition when sold.
This is regardless of whatever warranty the producer offers.
I sincerely doubt Nikon Finland can legally refuse to repair your Nikon Germany gear under EU regulations. That does not mean they won't try. But few companies are up to speed on EU regulations regarding consumer protection (most of them are too busy with the free market regulations of the EU) and if nobody complains the situation won't improve.
>I sincerely doubt Nikon Finland can legally refuse to repair >your Nikon Germany gear under EU regulations. That does not They cannot refuse. Further, if a person living in Finland buy a camera in Sweden he or she can take advantage of the nearly 100 years cooperation in laws - particularly in customer's protection.
www.scandinavianphoto.se charges 16690 SEK for camera + delivery within the Nordic countries. With exchange rates where I live that is 1740 Euros or 2085 USD.
If you import from the US you will have to pay VAT and duties. In my country it would bring the camera up to 2295 USD with far less buyer's protection.
Well, like I said above - at least a few years ago they didn't even try to say that they won't repair the stuff. All guarantees worked well - except for the fact that if the camera was bought from Germany, for example, it ended up last in line for repairs, and there was no hurry repairing those. But this was totally unofficial. Now the service is not done by the same company anymore, so that may change things. Also, it might have an effect if you buy from Scandinavian photo in Sweden for example, as the import company in Finland is actually Nikon Sweden - they just have an office here.
Currently it seems that the price should be around the same what ever we do - as long as we don't buy from Finland. It's roughly the same from USA (+22%VAT), from Germany and from Sweden.
When I worked in Germany I purchased a dx 12-24 lens and an SB800, plus other small things. I could even bargain with a nice young guy. That is a big thing in Germany. The shop is brilliant and reliable. Good luck!
The first two both have stores in Stockholm, if you live close to Helsinki or Turku and wish to take the boat over to get it "over the counter". The first one is probably slightly more expensive, but is my favorite. The last one is probably the cheapest.
They don't list the D200 yet but lenses and bodies have been 20 - 25% cheaper there than in Finland. Like the 80-400mm VR, costs EUR 2350 in Finland and I paid EUR 1570 with them. For the 10.5 Fisheye they charged me 690 EUR whereas it goes for 995 EUR (incl. VAT) in Finland. Warranty has not been a problem, I returned a faulty MSV-01 to them and they promptly replaced it with a new. They've always bargained on spot, and I've never paid the prices listed on their website.
I go to Barcelona 10-12 times a year so the ticket is not an extra expense to me, but FYI Finnair flies direct to Barcelona for as little as EUR 200 and you can get cheapo airlines for 120-150 EUR round trip.
AC Foto seems the cheapest dealer in Europe for as much as I can tell.
Ville, I must suggest you check out http://www.cyberphoto.se/ they even have the intire site in finnish, end their prices are only slightly higer then the stores you suggested. Seems like the prices in Sweden generally aren't that much higher then continental europe anymore!
>I just got a confirmation of the price in Finland. 2200 >Euros (about 2600 US$!!!). So if I buy D200 in Finland I >have to pay 500.- more than in other EU contries. > >Can anyone recommend reliable shops in Europe (Germany?), >who take preorders. > >Juhani
The final price seems to be 1.800 euros in Finland, not 2.200! We'll get the first shipment week 49.
Hi Juha Verkkokauppa.com in Finland, price will be around 1700€. Very good price at the moment in Finland and also in EU. In side Finland low delevery costs only ap. 5€.Very good service and easy warranty.