When shooting in 'P' (or any other mode) I often get a flashing low battery signal in the LCD and the camera basically locks. Turn it off and then on and it's fine for a while. I have the MB-D10 with AA's. Have replaced with tested 'new' AA's, still get the problem. Very intermittant issue, but troubling. Anyone experience this or have a clue? 70-200 2.8 VR most of the time
I had the same problem with my D200 and D300 with the 70-200. I took my MB-D10 off and still had the same problems. I finally borrowed another 70-200 and had no problems, so I have sent the lens to Nikon to take a look at.
I had the same issue with my 70 x 200 2.8 VR . I sent it into nikon with a letter explaining the issues. I received the lens back yesterday and Nikon did a B1 repair ( replaced the bayonet lens mount ) C Cleaned and adjusted focus and checked the VR . It is tighter on the body the lens focus is faster and VR is Flawless . This lens works better than it did 6 month ago when I bought it. On a D200 i was having all sorts of focus issues . NOT NOW. i don't know if this is a permanent fix for the dead battery issue time will tell that. All I know is that i couldn't live with the way the lens was working before and allot of people are cleaning the contacts and living with it. I myself didn't spend 1900.00 for a problem lens . It was in mint physical condition when sent and returned the same way. works great now on D200 and D300.
Sometimes this is caused by poor battery connection. When it happened to mine, I cleaned the battery contacts with a cloth and the problem went away. Same for lens contacts and no focusing. Apparently new D300 have some coating to protect against corresion that can affect electrical connections. No problems for me after wiping with a cloth.
OK, well it's been about a week and 1,000 releases after cleaning all of the contacts and it's only happened once. It was right after the initial cleaning and hasn't happened since as I got real anal on the second cleaning. I have a job tommorrow that will require about 500 frames and three different lenses, so I'll let you know. But am confident all is well in my camera bag.
I too have had this intermittent and aggravating false "low battery" indication and shutdown with my D300. (Clears with cycling the camera off and back on, but have missed shots-- annoying!) First experienced it only once I'd installed the MB-D10 grip, but much later replicated without the the grip.
First order of business, I'd cleaned the pins/contacts of my 200-400VR and D300 (swapped with Q-tips and alcohol). Problem seemed to be go away for awhile but after a month or so it returned, and soon after that it was rapidly worsening, as other posters have mentioned. Even after cleaning the lens pins and body contacts again.
I've also triggered the fault by waking the camera from sleep with the menu and info buttons. Then got the D300 to do it without the grip.
Looking closer, I found that while the battery/lens pins/body contacts were all clean, the lens mount itself had gotten filmy/dirty again. (I'd changed out lenses several times in the interim and might have transfered gunk.) Next tested with a multimeter to confirm that it's not just the pins and contacts that carry current, but the face of the F-mount and the bayonet itself seem to be the primary electrical grounding contact i.e (-) ground. None of the other (-) polarity contacts on the body seem to have as low a resistance and so are unlikely to be the actual ground.
While it may turn out that there are multiple causes to this fault, I don't believe it's the battery contacts in my case, but an intermittent ground fault from this mount/lens union that confuses the D300 firmware, or some such. Needless to say, for now I'm going to try being extra-scrupulous about keeping all my body's F-mounts and lens bayonets clean as a whistle. With luck, it'll turn out to be something as simple as this that effects a cure. I could live with the D300 being a tad fussy about this... it's a marvelous tool, otherwise.
OK, well Saturdays shoot went fine. But now I am back to experiancing the problem almost everytime I turn the camera on with the 70-200 on board. In fact, I can cause the problem anytime I want by slightly twisting the lense against the camera clockwise. Very annoying. Aside from cleaning daily (not convinced that will even help), anyone have any suggestions?
Well, I also just experienced the same problem today. Happened about 4 times during the day with the 70-200 VR on. This was the first outing for the 70-200 which was a brand new (retail boxed) replacement that Nikon service sent me in exchange for my original 70-200 that was in for unrelated repairs. I also tried with three separate batteries during the day and it happened with each, so I am doubtful that the battery contacts are the issue here.
Someone suggested in another thread that if the slot on the lens bayonet which receives the F-mount locking/release pin is worn or is elongated, then the array of pins on the lens mount may not lock in to mate up correctly with corresponding terminals on the body, to cause this problem.
None of my lenses, however, has a release pin slot this condition. Certainly it was worth checking, though.
It seems possible that anything that breaks electrical continuity with the lens or body could trigger this fault so there might be several different causes.
A couple of solutions. I tried the eraser trick and it seems to work...so far. Will be off to Radio Shack tommorow for the Oxi stuff. Wierd that it mainly happens on the 70-200 2.8? All of my other glass is just fine. I do notice a bit of 'slop' in the 70-200 however. Anyone else? Will be burning through about 200 actuations by Noon tomorrow and let you know.
I too, experienced this once with my D300 and 80-400 lens. I turned the camera off and then back on and it was fine. I have used this lens for a couple of years on my D70 with no problems. Indicates a problem on the camera side. Perhaps heavier lenses expose a slight flaw in the mount/contacts. Maybe I should buy a 200-400 just to validate that theory.
Steve, I was waiting to comment, but here goes. I tried the DeOxit Saturday morning. I used both bottles as directed in the instructions. 3 days and about 400 pictures later, no problems! Just for kicks, I am cleaning everything again tonight. I trust the fix will continue.
Isopropyl alcohol is a good thing to clean any electrical contact with - it is a very good de-greaser & leaves no residue. Wiping contacts such as those in the lens/camera interface are not intended to be lubricated in any way - it just makes dust stick to them. A lint-free cotton cloth dampened slightly is all you need or a cotton bud dipped in the iso.
Should be a lot of old posts related to this somewhere but I can't find them on this new format.
I went through all this with my D200, 70-200 VR lens last May through August. Got low battery indicator when battery was fully charged. Turning camera off and on it would work a while and then I'd get the same low battery indication, and could take no photos. First time I sent the camera to Nikon They did nothing. First time I turned the camera on after getting it back I got the same low battery indicator.
Returned camera and lens to Nikon. Couldn't find out from them what they did. I think they cleaned the camera and lens . . . again. They may have replaced some camera parts but I don't know. It's like the people available on the phone have no clue what you are talking about and have no clue what is being done with your camera and there is no communication between them and the Nikon people repairing the camera.
Anyway, I got my camera/lens back and about a week later on a trip to Yellowstone I had the same problem -- one time. I removed and replaced the lens and hundreds of photos and lens changes later have not had the problem again. I am pretty well convinced that the problem has to do with contacts between camera and lens. Guess I haven't added anything you haven't already heard but I do recall my frustration never knowing when it was going to happen.
I have had this issue for almost a year only with my Nikon 70 x 200 2.8 vr lens. I have two D200 and a new D300 . The 70 x 200 stayed mounted on the D300 from day one and started the dead battery issue after three months. I tried all the cleaning of contacts as other. I don't want to burst any bubbles here but this is a temp fix at most. My 70 x 200 is in for repair with Nikon ( Status ) parts hold ? . I hope they fix the issue but I really don't have faith in Nikon QC anymore and have invested in Canon and L lens . I hated to start over but I'M retiring in a few years and just want to have fun and take pictures . Photography is very relaxing but I'M tired of paying big bucks and never know when it will fail.
I have allot invested in Nikon but won't spend any more money in their prime lens .
To quote an ex president, "I feel your pain." But that doesn't help.
I went through what you describe with my D200. I primarily use the Nikon 70-200 VR lens but also had the "dead battery" indication a couple of times while while using my Sigma 18-50, 2.8 EX EC lens. However, both times it was shortly after switching from the 70-200 lens. As mentioned in my previous post, I had to send in my camera, then camera and lens. Parts were replaced and I've had no problems with the low battery thing since I got it back except for one time right after I got it back and right after I switched from the 70-200 to the Sigma lens. That was last September and I've taken hundreds of photos with no further problem.
I have my doubts that Nikon knows what is causing this problem which has been reported with several cameras. They just replace parts hoping that some replaced part will fix it. It is frustrating that they seem to not want to come out with any statement about this problem. At least I have found none. I do think it is related somehow to the contacts between camera and lens. I am more careful about supporting the lens -- not letting the weight of the lens hang on the camera. The D200 is my one camera, the 70-200 is my primary lens for the photography I do. I use it probably 95+% of the time and I like it. I can't afford to switch. Although I may have to figure out a way to get a D300.
We've advised you before not to continually repeat the same complaint about your dead battery issue.
You have made your point well enough already, including in this very thread just over a week ago! Saying the same things over again does not increase the impact, and may actually start to annoy people...
I never heard anything from you or other members about posting . I was just trying to keep everyone in the loop. If this site is that critical of people expressing their opinion then I will not post any more of my issues . SORRY IF MY POSTINGS WERE THAT UPSETTING TO YOUR EYE !!!!
>I never heard anything from you or other members about posting.
I was referring to this suggestion that I made back in February, in response to one of your many posts about this camera/lens problem.
>I was just trying to keep everyone in the loop. If this site >is that critical of people expressing their opinion then I will >not post any more of my issues.
I think you're misinterpreting my intentions - I was actually trying to help you get a better response from members. Opinions are always welcome, but we find that repeating basically the same complaint in multiple threads tends to lead people to react badly.
There is one ongoing thread where you have been updating us on progress with your lens being serviced at Nikon - further updates are most welcome there, as I'm sure we're all interested to hear the eventual outcome - which I hope will be positive for you
I just received my lens back from Nikon repair. B1 repair Replaced Lens Bayonett checked focus and adjusted checked VR Cleaned
The lens fits tighter on the D300 Not as much play or twisting. Focus is much better, VR function is smooth and fast no noise and locks on instantly. 100 shots no problem . It's too soon to make a comment on Dead battery issue with this lens time will tell. OH condition was perfect sent in and perfect returned . Nikon wrapped the lens in plastic and shipped in big box with penuts .I would defently try sending in your 70 x 200 2.8 but that s just me i can't live with the way it was before . And cleaning isn't a cure for this lens.
>70x200 2.9 VR Update > >I just received my lens back from Nikon repair. >B1 repair >Replaced Lens Bayonett >checked focus and adjusted >checked VR >Cleaned > >The lens fits tighter on the D300 Not as much play or >twisting. Focus is much better, VR function is smooth and fast >no noise and locks on instantly. 100 shots no problem . It's >too soon to make a comment on Dead battery issue with this >lens time will tell. OH >condition was perfect sent in and perfect returned . Nikon >wrapped the lens in plastic and shipped in big box with penuts >.I would defently try sending in your 70 x 200 2.8 but that s >just me i can't live with the way it was before . And cleaning >isn't a cure for this lens.
A few questions on your repair experience...
You mention focus was much better and you had better VR lock on post repair. What kind of problems were you experiencing? I've been finding focus lock on at 200mm is not reliable and VR can take quite a long time to lock on.
What did you tell them that mad them replace the mount? I'm finding the same 'sloppy fit' on my D300 that others are seeing from time to time.
What was the turnaround time?
Was it the Melville repair facilty? I've had some very bad experiences with quality of repairs there in the past and I am reluctant to send anything to them these days.
I just sent in a letter with my lens explaining the loose fit on my D200 and D300 and the repeatable dead battery issue if i twisted the lens while mounted. I guess they were able to recreate this issue. I also had a problem with focus on my D200 and tha VR was unpredictable . The D300 was better but not perfect by a long shot . Yes I sent the lens into NY and I too have had some issues there with repair . Three times i sent in my 1st D200 body and the third time it returned ok. I have sent in two nikon vr lens and all was ok . Trust me on this one I was real concerned about sending in my 70 x 200 VR but all is fine.
Peach State Birder I have a 200-400 and I am having Battery 'issues' as well. However, my D200 finally crapped out no matter what lens I put on it. I sent it back to Nikon for repair--After 2 months of waiting, they finally sent me a NEW D200 with NO explanation!!!!
Now my D300, less than 90 days old, is showing the EXACT same symptoms. Fully charged Nikon Brand Battery----works for a second or 2 or a minute or 2---then dead. Put my 12-24mm on---NO PROBLEMS.. I , too, now wonder if the 200-400 lens is the culprit, or at least a partial culprit---remember--the D200 would not work with ANY KIND of lens attached.... By the way , the 200-400 AFS VR is only 9 months old.
I think I will go out tomorrow and try the 70-200 AFS VR and the 105 Micro Nikkor VR just to see if there are any problems as well. I will post the results.
I only started to notice this issue when walking around and shooting all day, also with the 70-200 f/2.8 (which I was renting, and don't yet own). Half-way through the day, this problem cropped up. I'd fiddle with things for a while, and it would go away. Then, at the end of the day, another problem came up (which didn't go away immediately). The camera would just show "F0" in the LCD and refuse to do anything. Again, all when using the 70-200 f/2.8 and having the camera on all day. (never seen the issue before that) The following day, the issue wouldn't resurface again until late afternoon.
The lens-contacts explanation seems to make the most sense, though I do find it interesting that just about everyone running into the issue has been using the exact same lens.
OK, it's been over a week (and over 1,000 actuations) and the problem seems to have gone away. I'm confident that the issue was in the lense to body contacts. I've cleaned the contacts with DeOxit once since the intial cleaning. Not because the problem reappeared, but because it just makes sense to keep them clean. A good thread and thank you for the input everyone! Bill
Sun 09-Mar-08 02:41 AM | edited Sun 09-Mar-08 02:43 AM by jhurl55
There are several threads on the internet about this problem . I have had this issue on a D200 and My new D300. I just sent my 70 x 200 2.8 Vr back to Nikon for repair . I wrote up a report of this issue and included it along with the lens. I tried all the cleaning with no luck. My lens had play in it when mounted on the body I can twist it and it looses contact and the dead battery issue shows up. I suggested replacing the lens mount . I will repost when i get the lens back from Nikon. I hope they fix this issue none of my other prime lenses do this. Ive heard of the same issue with other VR lens but all mine are ok .
OK, I haven't experienced this problem on my D300 and I don't have the 70-200 lens. I did read on one site somewhere, where the owner experience this problem and fixed it by putting a couple of thicknesses of paper on top of the battery before closing the battery door. The idea being to create a little more pressure on the battery contacts.
I haven't tried this, or needed to. You may want to try it.
If this is a corrosion problem, what bothers me is I will be using this camera a lot this summer at sea. If you are experiencing corrosion problems on land, I hate to think what is going to happen in salt air.
I have been having problems with the flashing low battery as well with my 70-200 lens on started out only now and then and is getting more frequent. I have cleaned the contacts with an optech cloth not with any solution though. I will have to try with other lens, but it shouldn't happen at all. I just don't understand why a brand new camera and a fairly new lens should be having this problem. Seems every forum I run across their are people with similar problems with the d300. I would love to see if Nikon would announce something Any D3 owners having problems?
If you do a Google search you will find this same problem related to several Nikons . . . D80, D200, D300 and maybe others. Everything from the add-on battery pack to the battery, to lens contacts and dust have been blamed.
I could add more to this list, but it wouldn't really add anything to the discussion. I'm not sure what percentage of D80s, D200s, D300s have this problem. Maybe a small number, but if it is your camera it is a big problem. It is happening enough that it seems maybe Nikon should be finding some common thread as to the cause.
Spoke briefly with a Nikon person and they are aware based on the forums, but have heard nothing from Corporate and suggested hearing more directly from owners. Hard thing is you have to send in your camera, charger, battery and lens or piece of equipment it is happening most with. Then pray it acts up when they have it. Also hope your camera is not gone long. I have heard from one person they sent theirs away and nothing was done because nothing was found...oh they changed the oil so to speak.
I have had THREE all fail from this and currently, I'm doing some "testing for Nikon.
They had my latest body twice, along with my 500 VR and TC's...fired over 3000 shots and couldn't find anything wrong with it.
They sent it back much to my dismay (actually it was a lot more than dismay but I'm being nice here) and it failed 26 images later.
I called them immediately and offered to replace it and then based on some further data I gave them over the weekend (it failed constantly Saturday but Sunday I rattled off 1000 frames of snowmobiles racing and it worked fine...and then died sitting there all by itself, they decided the camera battery must be bad and overnighted me a new one.
Sort of beside myself, I agreed to test the camera with no grip attached and the new charged battery in it. It failed a half hour later.
I've experienced the low battery and with it, severe hunting of the AF, the center reticule will simply disappeared and then the camera locks up.
It has happened both with and without the grip, with a battery in the camera and without.
Interesting, I didn't catch the name, but it was in Canada. I would like to see them take a couple of these "off" cameras and do the testing themselves. Mine so far has only acted up on the 70-200vr.....that is so far. This seems to be something that starts slowly and then progresses quickly.
I sent in my 70 x 200 to nikon repair a few weeks ago hoping that it was the lens . Nikon returned the lens repair . They replaced the bayonet and cleaned and adjusted. I must say the focus is sharp and the vr works great. However after shooting this weekend after 50 shots on the D300 the dead battery issue started again. I was shooting with another photographer that had a new D3 and the 70 x 200 VR lens and he was shocked he had the same thing happen to him and thought he was the only one . He called Nikon and they said they have never heard of this issue. YA RIGHT Nikon. I went home and called Nikon service I finally got an honest tech who stated that there were other issues with other Vr lens and that Nikon was fully aware of this issue. He also stated that it was a #### shoot as to what the fix is as there are many problems and no one camera or lens is the same. So nikon just keeps replacing parts until they get the customer fixed which isn't happening to often. Talk about Quality control . SO WHAT DO WE DO MEMBERS ??????
My D300 has a similar "low battery problem" as well as a problem with the on/off switch (won't turn off), the MENU window, the fact that DC power supply (Nikon EH-5A) doesn't work, etc., etc., etc. I got it in Sep 08 but hadn't had a chance to do anything with it until recently because of work. All batteries (4) are Nikon EN-EL3e, were fully charge before putting them in the camera and within a day camera doesn't function - absolutely nothing in the display window. Only when new, fully charged battery are inserted does the camera come back to life.
This thread extends through Apr/May 08. Does that mean the problem has been corrected?
I tried cleaning the contacts which makes no sense - when my problem started, I hadn't even installed a lens! Maybe there's more than one problem? In any case, as a 20 plus year engineer/scientist, cleaning contacts in the lens mount seems to be a remote possibility for what appears to be a battery/power/voltage/ecb/software problem.
I tried updating the firmware. Successfully for A (1.02 version to 1.1), not so well with B. Camera crashed during B firmware upgrade telling me to contact Nikon service. And, now, the menu screen doesn't work. So at this point, I'm SOL.
I've sent 2 emails to Nikon service with no response. Granted these were sent yesterday and Tuesday but Nikon has a note that it responds in 24 hours. I guess not!
Was this problem at some point resolved? Any suggestions on my next step? Does anyone know if Nikon is aware of this problem?
The problem described in this thread was fixed by a firmware update.
Your problem does not sound like the same thing. The camera worked fine most of the time for most people who had this issue. In fact the power switch always worked and cycling the power always temporarily fixed the problem.
It sound like you should contact Nikon and send the camera in for service.
Feb 16, 2009: I have owned my D300 since 2007 and have shot almost exclusively with the 70-200/TC17 combination since purchasing those in June 09 (before that it was the 70-300VR). I never had a problem all that time. Now all of a sudden I have this false "low battery" issue, mostly when shooting but sometimes just when it's turned on. When I described the issue to Nikon tech support today, he said it is definitely the camera, not a firmware or lens issue, and that my only option was to send it in for repair. My local camera store concurs. I appreciate hearing from those of you who have found simpler solutions, and hope my observations are helpful as well.
The so-called "false dead battery syndrome" with the D300 was caused by the way the camera reacted to poor electrical contact between camera and lens, and was always more prevalent with larger, heavier lenses.
The problem was completely fixed in mid-2008 with the release of firmware version 1.03. Since your camera is older than that, it may simply be that it doesn't have the latest firmware. The current version is 1.10, which can be downloaded from your local Nikon Support website.
True, I have not updated my firmware and was about to, but am a bit spooked by the possibility of the camera going dead in the middle of an update. Maybe I should take the lens off while updating, or put a smaller one on? Thanks for your feedback.