I know this is not a printer forum but with the quality of our digitals in this group, I am wondering if we are printing it too.
I am curious what some of you are printing to for quality as well as showing it on the pc. If I am in error in asking that here, I stand corrected.
#1. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 0vfnewman Basic MemberFri 19-Jul-02 08:07 AM
I'm not sure if this answers your question, but I've been printing shots from my D1 and D100 on an Epson 1270 with Epson papers and the results have been fantastic.
#2. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 0AlanC Basic MemberFri 19-Jul-02 08:27 AM
That's a perfectly good question, and it'll be interesting to see how others produce prints.
I have two Epson Stylus Photo printers: the old 750 which uses dye based inks and can print up to A4 size - I generally use this to produce 4"x6" prints to go in albums - and the 2000p which uses pigment based inks and can go up to A3+ (13"x19") - I use this for A4 or larger prints that are going to be framed since the pigment-based inks don't fade when exposed to sunlight; the downside is that it has a narrower gamut which makes it considerably more difficult to use than the 750.
I'm keeping an eye on the new 2100 (2200 in America) since this looks like it should improve on both my current printers: it uses pigment based inks which give a much better print life than dyes (although not as good as the 2000p) and it's also said to have a wider gamut than the 2000p - and even the dye based printers.
I don't know much about the Olympus P-400 you mentioned other than that it's a dye sublimation printer: how would you rate it, and how well do the prints last?
#3. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 2Fri 19-Jul-02 10:13 AM
Alan & Victor,
Thanks for the input, I'm sure there'll be more to follow.
The P-400 is my latest printer and the results with the dye-sublimation are amazing. From what I have seen out on the market in printers, I cannot see where I could have purchased anything better for the quality I want. I have to honestly say, these prints are as close or if not equal to anything I've received from a photo-lab from film. As for the archival ability of sub-dye prints, as a layman to that term, I was told they are very archival. I chose this over the more expensive Epson printer which is to have archival ink being I had my share of ink-jet printers. I yet have the Epson Photo 700, HP 932C Deskjet and the Olympus P-300 the P-300 also being a dye-sub. printer but at roughly 3 1/2 X 5 max prints. With my D1X and the P-400 (not pushing a P-400 of course), I've had remarks and comments from people that couldn't believe this was all digital work. There are pro's and con's on most all printers as you know but it will be interesting to read more of what others are using. My results in prints are but 8 X10's the largest. I guess if I have need for larger it would be sent out to do.
For more technical terminology of my particular printer probably best to visit their site at www.olympus.com and head for that particular.
I wonder about that Epson archival ink printer that i debated over and how people are getting along with the ink heads.
I owned 2 Epson's prior to the above and constantly had blocking problems even with a fair amount of usage. The most trouble free I've had and with fantastic output is the 932C that has the heads built into the new ink cartridges.
I have one big "con" about my P-400 and that is the price variation that I have just found..... won't say here how I really feel about that !!
#4. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 3photons Nikonian since 01st Jul 2002Fri 19-Jul-02 12:47 PM
I have been testing the D100 files (Large, Fine) on the Epson 2000P. The results up to ca. 13 x 19 are amazing, and these with unmanipulated files.
I have experienced no printer head (or any other) problems with the 2000P, after hundreds of prints.
Russ in CT
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#6. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 2BJNicholls Charter MemberFri 19-Jul-02 01:52 PM
I got a print of my Goshute panorama done on the Epson 7600 using the Ulrachrome inks. The results are excellent. The print is all but indistinguishable from the same print from my 1270 with the dye photo inks. No metamerism on this print under a variety of light conditions.
The Oly dye-sub printer makes a nice print, but the size is small (7.64 x 10 inches) compared to what the new DSLR images can potentially enlarge to.
#10. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 6AlanC Basic MemberSat 20-Jul-02 01:22 PM
I'm still waiting for one of the retailers I normally deal with to get the 2100 in stock - they're still all saying they'll be getting them in two weeks....
One remaining concern is how much this printer is going to cost to run: those individual ink cartridges are about £10-£12 each so having to replace a full set of seven looks rather expensive.
#5. "Print quality from D100" | In response to Reply # 0
The print quality of high resolution (3008x2000 pixels) images from the D100 is exceptional at 7.5x10" and excellent up to A3. Images are very clean and noise-free (even some ISO640 shots look remarkably noise-free), and there is very little post-capture image manipulation compared to scanned film. I'm printing on an Epson 1280 FYI. At print resolutions of >200 dpi, D100 images have the typical "digital" look (very clean, sharp, and noise-free) that looks better than scanned film at similar enlargement. Once you enlarge digital images to the point that your effective resolution is <200 ppi, then similar enlargements of digitized film look better.
#7. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints" | In response to Reply # 0
I have been printing from my old Canon G1 and now my D1x with an HP Photosmart Printer using photo paper and it looks as good as the quick development places for 35mm prints up to 8" x 10".
I wish I knew more about the "computer processing" software so I could get even more out of the home prints.
#8. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 0
I print the images from my D1 on the Epson 1280. I also use a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite to print my images taken on Fuji Provia 100F on the Epson 1280 as well, And I love it. The image quality from this printer is spectacular, and it is fast and very quiet. I use Ilford Galerie Classic Pearl & Glossy Paper for all my prints.
The Long Island Nikonian
#9. "RE: D1's or D100 Prints on P-400" | In response to Reply # 8Sat 20-Jul-02 06:21 AM
Interesting so far finding what others are using.
Appears at this point people are satisfied with their particular models.
I would guess that an ink jet type printer can be made to go but so fine in printing ?? Often wondered about how far technology can go with it. Some of you have finer printing printers than my HP 932C and even mine is amazing in quality. I guess much depends on what types of print paper we use. My printers and combination of papers and inks I use probably run me approximately $1.55 to $ 1.95 per print (8X10)with the P-400 being the $1.95. I haven't had prints made up from outside printers yet so I don't know the cost comparison using the 8X10 comparison.
Attempting to learn just a bit more about printers I found this site which gives some descriptions etc.
I never use my color printers for any B&W work being I use an HP LaseJet and Brother MFC 4350 for that work.
I don't run a business having all these printers but several years back I did and they were all used.
I had more fun with the P-300 for home/other prints being I sent many prints to it from my video (cam-corder) work.