Hey guys, I'm honestly tired of dealing with this particular situation where I need two completely different settings within moments from each other & not being able to go back & forth.
Tonight we had a runway show that had stage lighting at one end, and strobes at the other. I needed to have one group of settings for shutter/aperture/ISO/WB/ & flash at one end of the stage, and another group of those settings within seconds at the other end of the stage.
My thinking is to have two banks set up, each with the settings I needed, but as far as I can tell on my D3s there is no way I can add those bank settings to be changed on the fly using something like the function button.
It truly needs to be on the fly, like one second I'm shooting in Bank A with 1/400, f2.8, ISO 800, WB incandescent, with no flash. Then I can it the function button & rotate to Bank B with 1/200, f4, ISO 200, WB flash, with strobes on.
This kind of issue is needed all the time at weddings, and I just compromise and do the best with what I know to do. I could seriously use instantaneous switching between an entire group of settings, so I thought I would reach out to you guys to see if someone knows a way to pull this off.
Wed 16-Apr-14 11:33 AM | edited Wed 16-Apr-14 11:34 AM by Ferguson
Sorry, no help here, I'll even go one more. I HATE how the banks work, because they are not "saved". It means any setting you change (that's stored in a bank) while set to that bank, is changed permanently. You still have to go back and clean up any changes.
Which leads some people to saving bank settings on a card, and restoring from it. And since those saved settings are lost in a format (which is normal for each session) they have to have a SEPARATE card, and change it in and out.
The whole concept is just not well thought out for people who want what you do - predefined, well considered settings you can call up and use any time.
Most people I see doing what you described - very different settings - seem to be using a second body.
I know what you gave is just an example, but it's driven by flash/noflash. FWIW I always keep the button under aperture preview programmed to "no flash". With some automatic settings like auto-ISO and auto-WB, and max shutter speed for flash, you can have the button do most of what you describe above. Not exactly how you want it, but that's the closest I've seen to a one button solution, sadly.
I know what you mean, Christian. Unfortunately, there is no way I know of to do that. That's why when I'm in a situation like that I tend to use my D7100 with its U1/U2 settings banks unless I really need the high-ISO performance of FX. Weird, isn't it, that the lower-end body is more usable in this regard?
Of course, there is always the two-body solution, painful as that may be.
Which is exactly why I loved U1/U2 on my now departed D7000. I counted up one time on the little dial on top that there were 4 settings I never once used (Scene, couple flash settings etc). Anyhow EVEN on my D7000 I could have had U1 through U6 if Nikon only had allowed us to reprogram them.
On all of my cameras there I buttons I never use - let me reprogram them into my own personal Ux buttons - for example I never use a QUAL button, never use Program mode, Shutter Priority (nope) and you name it. We need a software approach to our cameras - any button can do any function is entirely possible with a software approach. These weird restrictions of what we can assign customizable buttons to, are also not ideal.
Give me a D5 with U1 through U6 please!
For your specific problem I would make sure you have the Extended Banks turned on, then set your Function button to take you to My Menu, Have your two banks as the top or second items in My Menu, do an analysis do you have to change both Setting/and Custom bank? Can you just change one of them?
Your button pressing would then be: Function, scroll down 1 (if needed), scroll Right, up or down to get to other bank, OK button, then SHOOT
>For your specific problem I would make sure you have the >Extended Banks turned on, then set your Function button to >take you to My Menu, Have your two banks as the top or second >items in My Menu, do an analysis do you have to change both >Setting/and Custom bank? Can you just change one of them? > >Your button pressing would then be: Function, scroll down 1 >(if needed), scroll Right, up or down to get to other bank, OK >button, then SHOOT
I appreciate your help on this Steve, this is possibly the best workaround that exists. Unfortunately, this method doesn't lend to the need I have of instantly working with all the settings I have in he bank plus changing everything to pre-configured settings.
Sounds like we will have to wait for the D5. I should probably voice my concern to NPS.
I believe that the D4s has the support (fn + command dial) to program setting the banks. Saw it in the manual yesterday (see page #341). I'm traveling, but will try this when I get back. That would make switching banks much more useful. I don't know if you can do this on the D4; it is not available in the D800 unfortunately; the D800 is what I'm traveling with on this trip.
I suspect the primary problem remains: you can call up a bank easily, but since there is no way of locking the settings, any changes you make after you've brought up that bank become part of its settings for the future.