I have a Nikon D200 and MB-200 grip. I largely shoot only jpeg and take these straight from the D200 with no processing.
As I mainly shoot family photos indoors (with Nikkor AF-S 35mm f1.8 using ISO up to around 800) I find sometimes the D200 cannot keep up with AF wise and hold focus with the kids running around particularly when not using the central af-sensor.
I am looking at possibly swapping the D200 for a D2Hs largely for the improved AF system (more cross type sensors)
Would this be a sensible idea?
I guess I'm worried about how the jpegs will be straight from the camera compared to the D200.
How the ISO performance is in comparison to the D200.
I am not worried about the reduced megapixel count but have read there are some infrared contamination issues with the D2Hs, is this actaully a problem people have experienced?
Any feedback, thoughts or experiences comparing or using these two and I would be very grateful.
#1. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 0Luke_Miller Nikonian since 19th Apr 2006Wed 23-Oct-13 11:52 AM
I had both the D200 and D2Hs, but it has been a while so memory may be faulty.
I can't speak to jpeg quality since I shoot NEFs exclusively. I think you will find the D2Hs ISO performance better than the D200. I normally did not go past 1600 with the D2Hs, but 3200 was not bad. I did not notice any IR contamination with the D2Hs, but bought a hot filter for it just in case. Never used it.
I love the Nikon pro bodies and one of them is always my primary. I started with the 2.7 megapixel D1 & D1H so I was used to shooting tight (no crop needed in post). The 4 megapixel D2Hs seemed a big step up in resolution. It does produce beautiful images. There is a school of thought that claims, all else being equal, that larger photo sites will produce better color. I've always been impressed with the colors my D2Hs produced.
#2. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 0Leonard62 Nikonian since 15th Mar 2009Wed 23-Oct-13 01:59 PM | edited Wed 23-Oct-13 02:01 PM by Leonard62
Here is a comparison of the D2Hs and the D200. For both photos ISO is 1600 with high ISO NR turned off. Shot with the AFS 35mm f1.8 at f2.8. WB is tungsten.
The photos are large crops of the original photos.
In order to match the photos the D200 photo was down sampled. The D2Hs was not. From what I saw on the screen with both photos enlarged to 8 3/4" x 13 1/4" the D2Hs has slightly better noise performance even though it was enlarged more.
If I use a hot mirror to reduce IR there is no difference in the color cast of the D2Hs photo so there is no IR contribution.
I find the WB of the D2Hs is more accurate than the D200.
D2Hs with hot mirror filter.
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#3. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 2Wed 23-Oct-13 02:27 PM
Thanks for the comparison photos - I agree noise performance appears better with the D2Hs.
Can anyone comment on AF accuracy in low light - I am assuming due to the better AF system and more cross type sensors the D2Hs is noticably better than the D200?
#4. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 3blw Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Wed 23-Oct-13 04:51 PM
I had a D2h, but it and and hs have the same AF system - so does the D2x, which I still use regularly. The AF is VERY accurate and VERY capable. I don't know the D200 but I have found only two areas in which the D3/D300 is clearly better.
One is tracking a VERY fast object that is moving DIRECTLY at the camera. By "very fast" I mean "in excess of 180mph" as I've only had the problem on the fastest straightaways at the fastest race tracks. On the main straight at VIR and especially into Turn One at Indianapolis; there are other places, but certainly doing any human- or animal-powered sports, the D2 family don't miss much. If there's almost any angle (15 degrees is plenty), the D2's are just fine at tracking.
The other area in which the newer bodies are clearly superior is in AF area, where tracking is semi- or completely automatic. I don't use this much, but it's very clear that the newer bodies - especially the D3, and I presume D3s/D4 at least are far better at this. If have this situation I don't even look at the D2x.
As far as low light accuracy, my D2h and D2x are essentially equivalent to the D3, even using lenses with minimal DOF such as the 135/f2 AF DC, 50/f1.4 and 24/f1.4.
In other words, by going with the D2hs, your AF performance is going to be at least 98% of the capability of the latest models, and it doesn't really get a whole lot better than that.
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#5. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 4Wed 23-Oct-13 07:26 PM
Many thanks for the details on AF system... this sounds like it will make a real difference... especially as the kids won't stay still!
Therefore just pulled the trigger on D2Hs with 8700 shutter actuations, 18-105 lens, SB600, remote shutter trigger and bag all for just over £500. Which seems pretty resonable.
Looking forward to it's arrival!
#6. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 5Ray Gerke Registered since 12th Sep 2004Thu 14-Nov-13 03:57 AM
You will love the D2Hs. A great camera. amazingly fast and wonderful colour. Sounds like you got a great deal.
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#7. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 0
Harry, they can have my D2Hs when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. Get Thom Hogan's ebook on the camera. Set it up correctly, use flash sparingly, chase kids with 8fps motor. I trust auto ISO to 800, shoot typically at ISO 200-400, as stated 1600 is fine, but really needs hot mirror. I have never worried about IR and don't have the hot mirror. I just don't push it and use a bit of bounce flash (SB-800). Btw my coffered ceilings are white, big soft box.
If you go for it you won't be sorry as long as the weight of a pro body is not an issue for you. Suggest two batteries and charger be part of the deal.
BTW: My gallery is all from the same D2Hs camera. I use Capture NX2 for processing RAW files. I shoot JPEG+RAW myself. So I let the JPEG be very basic. Spoiler alert: All the shots in the gallery are based on a processed RAW file to JPEG, not the camera's jpeg, just saying.
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#8. "RE: Nikon D2Hs?" | In response to Reply # 7palamara Nikonian since 02nd Oct 2002Tue 03-Dec-13 09:07 AM
'they can have my D2Hs when they pry it from my cold dead fingers'
Never a truer statement has been said Christopher. I have had my D2hs for 8 years and it will be with me until I or the camera goes to god.
4MP plenty and 8FPS satisfies my love of sport photography.
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