First let me state that I know the D800e is an entirely different camera designed for a different use than the D3s or D4; so don't shoot me.
I currently shoot w/ a D3s and D700. I am a wedding, portrait, event, landscape, and pj photographer. I am going to start shooting some sports, mainly football.
I like my D3s, don't love it though. I find that focusing takes some time in low light and caucasian skin tones come out a little red. Also I am beginning filming so the D3s video quality is sub-standard.
I have shot the D800e for an extended period and greatly appreciate the extra pixel resolution for my landscape and architecture work, however it is not the workhorse, all-around, do-everything that the D3s is. I do like the lightweight of the D800e though, after carrying a D3s w/ a RRS L Bracket and a D700 w/ a battery grip and a RRS L Bracket for 12 hours or longer, the compact minimalist body of the D800e is pure joy.
I have yet to shoot w/ the D4 for more than 5 frames, but I do like what color it produces. However, I am not impressed with the 4mp sensor upgrade from the D3s. That and its $6k price tag.
Anyone who has migrated from the D3s to the D4 or shot the D4 enough to "not" migrate, would you mind sharing your opinion and experiences?
#1. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 0Luke_Miller Nikonian since 19th Apr 2006Wed 06-Feb-13 02:55 PM
I went from the D3 to D4. The main reason I skipped the D3s was that it did not improve low light autofocus over my D3. The D4 does in spades. The extra megapixels over the D3/D3s are not important to me. Generally I find 12 MP enough. In my shooting the improved autofocus, Silent Mode, and video performance is worth the price.
#2. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 0spiritualized67 Nikonian since 28th Feb 2007Wed 06-Feb-13 07:46 PM
I've extensively shot all three. My main workhorse camera though, was the D3s before migrating over to the D4.
I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by the improved AF performance and color accuracy over the D3s. From subject tracking to color rendition in low light/high ISOs, the D4 is better than the D3s. Haven't had a chance to test out AF-C tracking since the latest D4 firmware upgrade, although I hear it's even better.
While not a monumental upgrade over the D3s, 16MP is plenty of real estate for most wedding, portrait or landscape applications.
Although the D800e is very capable of producing stunning mega-sized images, the AF and low light capability are nowhere close to that of the D4 (or D3s for that matter), so I think it struggles as a good "everything" camera. If you’re shooting mostly landscape, it’s a different story.
If they do come out with a D4x as rumored, it will combine the low-light, high speed AF performance of the D4 with the image size/landscape capabilities of a D800e. But for now, I find the D4 to be the best Nikon camera out there for multi-genre shooting applications. Of course, the D3s is awesome too, although the AF and color accuracy are improved in the D4 IMHO.
I think we’re getting closer to a camera that can handle it all – although I find the D4 to be extremely capable in everything I shoot, from landscape to PJ. I just can’t say that with the D800. Of course, the D4 is big and heavy – but like everything else in photography, it’s all about tradeoffs.
#3. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 2danshep Charter MemberWed 06-Feb-13 11:15 PM
What I wonder however, is if a D4x would give up something, like other models: frames per second.
If I keep FPS and get more mp, I'm a trackin' with it. But f they take some FPS off to give more mp, I'm not.
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#6. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 3Thu 07-Feb-13 02:17 AM
Nikon Rumors said the D4X could have a fps at 6. I wouldn't put much stock in that figure as even Nikon Rumors thinks it odds of being right are only 3 out of 5.
Moreover, we have no idea what effect on the D4's ability in the area of AF, and other characteristics would be with a different sensor installed.
I think speculating on the D4X feature set, if any, is a fool's errand at this point.
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#5. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 2Thu 07-Feb-13 02:13 AM
I agree completely with Dan's rating and comparison of the D3S, D800e, and D4. I will add that the AF performance of the D4 has amazed me. It's significantly improved focusing with the Nikkor 80-400mm which I use for wildlife when traveling, which has a focus hunting reputation which was well deserved with lessor camera AF systems. My 80-400mm really doesn't focus hunt any more, when mounted on my D4.
As to the D4X, it's way too early to speculate at this point.
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#7. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 0
Interesting thread so far, and I'm going to disagree a bit with some of Luke's, Dan's and Ned's comments.
I upgraded fromt he D3 to the D3s because of the increased low light behavior. I passed on upgrading to the D4 because I did not see the improved AF as worth the money. SO obviously I like my D3s.
I also like my D800e. At reasonable image sizes — in other words, when downsizing to 12 mp — the D800 characteristics are as good as the D3s/D4 up to ISO 6400. The AF is a bit of an issue. Usually it's great except then it completely misses. The huge benefits of the D800e for me are (1) wonderful dynamic range; (2) impressive croppability; and (3) the smaller, lighter form factor. Coupled with f/4 glass instead of f/2.8 beasts and I've shaved a huge amount of weight off the package.
The D800e has become my primary body.
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#10. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 0
I'll just chime in to say my D4 is in many ways a better portrait camera for me than the D800E. For mortal human beings, I'm finding 16mp is plenty, and the 36mp can be overkill that just results in a need to correct skin blemishes, wrinkles, etc.
For your other interests D4 will also do very well and indeed is much preferred for wedding, event, and pj photography and especially sports.
So to me that just leaves landscape where the D800 has the lead as well as better lit video for wide FOV. But for low light video I much prefer the D4, and for anytime where subject distance allows me to shoot the D4 in the "actual pixels" CX-crop mode video, the D4 footage is gorgeous and the better of the two.
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#11. "RE: D3s vs. D4 vs. D800e" | In response to Reply # 10Indecline1 Registered since 21st Feb 2013Fri 01-Mar-13 03:50 AM
I have a D3s and and D800e and for railroad photography, I much prefer the D800e over the D3s. Also, I've have found that at 6400 iso I actually prefer the D800e over the D3s as the D800e files appera "richer" than the DSs, even the D3s migh be a hair less noisy. I think the extera resolution helps there. (Interior photos). I didn't think the D4 was that much of an improvement to sell the D3s and I found the D800e to be much better formore needs, so it's the go to camera now.