Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping
Found something a bit annoying, I'm sure it is a "feature" but ...
Twice now at two different shoots I ended up in Bracket mode unexpectedly, found by noticing the it stop in the middle of a burst.
Once additionally on the D800 I ended up in TIF mode instead of RAW.
I think I've found the culprit, it's obvious and apologies if so obvious it need not be mentioned. And to those who don't chimp at all stop reading now.
The Bracket button on the D4, and the QUAL button on the D800, are active while in image display mode. And if like me, you use the thumbwheel to move through images... All it takes is a touch of the hand or finger on that button and you suddenly end up in bracket mode.
A lot of functions take you out of display (e.g. any touch of the shutter or AF on, or menu), but this doesn't -- you can happily change these settings while the image display is up. So if you brush against the Bracket button while scrolling images, you might just end up in 5 shot bracket mode without realizing anything amiss, just think it didn't scroll on one click.
FWIW in case anyone else mysteriously finds they can only shoot in bursts of 3, 5 or 7.
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#1. "RE: Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping" | In response to Reply # 0JackJohnson Registered since 04th Jan 2012Mon 29-Oct-12 05:56 PM
I've never had that happen. How do you continuously press the partially recessed bracket button while viewing your images?
You're doing more than brushing the button since it needs to be held down to make any bracketing changes.
#2. "RE: Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping" | In response to Reply # 1Ferguson Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004Mon 29-Oct-12 06:00 PM
>I've never had that happen. How do you continuously press the
>partially recessed bracket button while viewing your images?
>You're doing more than brushing the button since it needs to
>be held down to make any bracketing changes.
Probably so. And if I really knew I probably wouldn't have done it. My guess is I was holding the camera weight in some fashion with the left hand. I don't have auto-rotate on for the display (so as to see larger images for portrait mode), and can only figure that corner of the camera setting in my hand somehow.
Now that I'm aware of it I can probably never reproduce it. But what surprised me is that the button is actually active (or conversely that the display stays active while changing it). It's not really a bad thing, just a surprise.
But in many years with a D300 I never once made such a change, and I've done it now once with the D800 (RAW->TIF) and twice with the D4 (Bracket).
If it never happens to you, let's pretend it is because I told you.
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#3. "RE: Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping" | In response to Reply # 0
I have had those exact same problems with my D3 and D3S. The first of the problems was inadvertently changing from RAW to JPEG. I happened to see the settings had changed while making another adjustment and managed to salvage what I had. I have large hands and figured that while holding the camera to make an ISO adjustment I somehow had unintentionally put my finger or thumb on an additional button as I made the desired change. It happened enough that my solution was to cover and tape the buttons on the camera back so they couldn't accidentally be pushed. That solved the problem with the D3 and I did learn to review all the settings whenever I made an adjustment to make sure they were what I wanted.
I had used the D3S for a while, without taping the buttons, and hadn't had any of the problems until I noticed half stop variances in exposure and finally figured I had activated the bracket feature. I had to read the book to see how to turn it off. I did manage to change from RAW to TIFF once in March of this year without a clue how I did it. I do know the change happened when I was making several adjustments at once because of environment, subject movement and lighting changes during an event. I saw the quality change when I was undoing the other changes.
Bottom line I still don't know how I made the changes I didn't want but I continue to review all the settings whenever I make an adjustment. I've had my D4 since March and D800 since June haven't had those problems with them. I know taping off the buttons on the D3 was extreme but it did solve the problem and everything the back buttons do is in the menu.
#5. "RE: Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping" | In response to Reply # 3KnightPhoto Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006Sat 03-Nov-12 12:24 PM
John/JRP - that would be my nightmare, accidentally shooting JPG. If you expose as sloppily as I do sometimes, JPG could be a real problem
Thanks for the heads up guys and Linwood thanks for the pointer. I know I've had my cameras in acci-bracket mode somewhat too often, but usually that's caused by the operator forgetting after shooting some handheld HDR sequences.
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#4. "RE: Bracket mode accidentally on D4 during Chimping" | In response to Reply # 0
You are not alone Linwood.
After a lifetime of great shots (exposure-wise) with speedlights, I began getting blowout images (not just the highlights).
My paws, dog-like hands, had the bracketing working and without my eye glasses I couldn't see it.
It took me a few days to figure it out.
Also related, I let someone at the ANPAT check on my custom settings.
He made some changes without noticing and I ended up with two days of jpegs only. I SHOOT RAW!
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