Need some thoughts on which direction next. Currently using a D7000 and learning things as quickly as I can. Had it in the back of my mind to move to full frame sometime in the future, but currently have no suitable glass. Now, a very dear friend, very eccentric and always buying very good gear, is giving me first dibs at his D700 for $650 or his D3 for $800, both very minimal usage, as in couple of dozen shots out of each. Bodies only. I think I'd be silly not to take up his offer. I shoot mostly nature and landscape, with some sports, being cycling and and motorsports, but only occasionally. I don't plan on ever going pro, prefer to just enjoy the hobby, but I do love good gear. My sensible side tells me to go for the D700, my irrational side says stuff it and just go the extra $150 for the D3. What side should I listen to?
Holy Mackeral, at those prices get both! Seriously your friend is giving you an offer of a lifetime.
I always thought, as did Thom Hogan recently, that the D700 is a great all around camera with sensor cleaning and a smaller form factor when that is important, if you could only have one camera. The D3 is the better cam though (AF, buffer, fps, ruggedness, etc.).
SteveK, I can't be greedy. I get first choice, the other is promised to another friend. Hence my dilemma of which one do I choose. And Marty, you're the devil on my other shoulder I have trouble shaking! But you do make sense, for the price, just do it But it does mean I have to delve back into BAS, as the D3 may not fit the bags I have.
The D3 is more value perhaps, but is a very different camera. If you are going to use a 70-200 or larger lens (i.e. heavy and big) its size will not be much of an issue, but if you like to have a small walk-around lens, either a prime or maybe a 24-120 or similar, the D3 body is pretty big.
I've come to LIKE the big body.
My wife on the other hand wouldn't take my D300 in favor of her D80 as it was "way too big".
I haven't used any cameras the size of a D3, Ferguson, so I don't know If it will suit me or not. I started with a D40X, then to a D7000 about a year ago, and the bug bit. The price of everything restricts me a bit, but I always had it in my mind to step up to a full frame, probably more out of curiosity than anything else. I also am keen to have a back up body So at this point I wouldn't have considered such a beast as a D3, but with the offer I've been given, jump in I guess. I will probably get a 50mm, either an F1.4 or F1.8 Haven't made up my mind on which yet And yes a 70-200mm will most likely go to the top of the list, when I can afford it I'm either going to love it and mostly park the D7000, or hate it and gravitate back to the D7000 But I have it in mind the D7k for outdoors, hiking etc for nature and landscape stuff, which is my interest And the D3 for some sports I get to, and urban and city shots, mostly night time So this is all unplanned, but suck it and see I guess
Scuse me Ferguson, realised I didn't really answer your question Size at the moment is important to me When I head out into the bush, or into the city, I generally use an R7 Black Rapid strap The D7K with either a 35mm, 18-200mm or 11-16mm mounted Then either a bum bag or a Think Tank back pack So I do like to travel light as I can, so I can move about relatively freely I realise the D3 is going to be a game changer But then my photography is just evolving, and who knows, it might shoot me off in an entirely different direction that I enjoy.
>I realise the D3 is going to be a game changer >But then my photography is just evolving, and who knows, it >might shoot me off in an entirely different direction that I >enjoy.
I like the size and feel of the larger body; while I love the D800, when I come back to it after a day of shooting on the larger body, it feels strange.
But it was a consideration, much as when someone asks "what's the best mid range telephoto" - saying the 70-200 is probably a no-brainer, if if they continue "that I can use as a walk around lens" it makes a difference. My 18-200 is still my favorite walk-around lens (though now my wife has it) not for IQ but versatility.
Best of luck on a tough choice. I don't think you can go wrong either way, and if both become a choice take it!
You sound like you are making some good plans about how and when to use your equipment. I do similar when I travel, out comes my pro-body for golden hour and nighttime shooting or sports/wildlife. For mid-day, harsh light, my V1 will do as I am probably out just taking memory/snapshots.
I agree that the D3 is a lot more camera for the money and the better investment.
However, "Hands On" is more important. You are almost certainly going to get your best shots with the more comfortable camera body. Not necessarily the lighter one.
I think the purpose of the "Gift" is to put those cameras to better use. And the price even though to low is there to give incentive for you to use and care for it. My experience is that when I give something for free. They usually treat it like it has no value which is very disturbing to me.