Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?
I will be in Paris next week, can't wait, heard its beautiful there and cameras will have to work!
I will for sure bring the V1 for family shooting, my V1 is fully loaded with 3 lenses, gps, flash, ft1, extra battery...
My headage is what should I bring along with V1... I need full frame and quality glass for landscape or art. My options are
- Leica M9, i have many lenses but will likely to bring only 50mm and 35mm summicron
- D3s with many lenses
I love to bring d3s but weight and size is scaring me, M9 is perfect for travel but I want d3s low light perfomance... Also if I bring D3s, my V1 will benefit from all the prime lenses with FT1.... But really, again, the size, the weight
If you travel to Paris before, please share your experience
#1. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0David D Busch Nikonian since 07th Nov 2011Fri 27-Apr-12 11:20 PM
Although the Metro will zip you around town, it's often a bit of a walk from the Metro stop to your next destination. Great opportunity to take pictures during the walk, but not if you have a boat anchor around your neck. Last time I used my D3s was in Barcelona. Wonderful image quality and versatility, but it slowed me down. Last October in Salamanca, I took the D7000 instead. Wish I had an M9!
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#2. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0KnightPhoto Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006Fri 27-Apr-12 11:36 PM
Two years ago I took a D700 and 24-70 as my main rig and it worked very well in Paris and London. I did a lot of low light photography (with the family in tow, so a lot of quick opportunistic type handheld or braced stuff). The main point is you need some kind of aftermarket, over the shoulder etc. strap. But no, I never carried more than one MAYBE two extra lenses over and above in jacket pockets or tolerant wife's purse (10.5mm and 50mm usually).
This year (Holland plus fast dash to Spain) I'm going the other direction in size and bringing my D4 since I want to put it through its paces. I couldn't face leaving it home. I intend to try a 16-35 / 70-300 combo as my daytime kit. I recently reviewed my Paris photos and surprised myself how often I shot the 24-70 at f2.8. So I'm a little uncertain myself! Gotta make some final lens decisions, especially since I don't actually own a 70-300
I'll have my V1 along too if I can brave locking the D4 up in the room.
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#3. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 2Sat 28-Apr-12 12:40 AM | edited Sat 28-Apr-12 06:24 PM by just4fun
I was waiting for D800, even thought I ordered only few hours after it announced, it never show up, D800 would be a perfect camera for this trip
Thanks David and Steve for sharing your experience, of course I love to hear more so please keep it coming!
1 thing I like to add is I love street photography so in my opinion, M9 hold the advantage because D3s will instantly scare people away. V1 auto focus is good but in low light situation, the image quality is still not there yet, small sensor so, you know....
I love my D3s very much so I am too can't face to leave it home.
While we at it (Paris trip) why not share your Paris photo here and maybe share some experience about shooting in Paris? please?
#4. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0
The M9 has several advantages if you plan on taking photos in museums. It is small, it is quiet and you can hand hold it at slower shutter speeds than the D3s. You can't use flash. But I think you would limit yourself by bringing only the 50mm and 35mm lenses. I would leave the 35mm at home and bring either a 24mm or 21mm if you have one. I would also bring my 90mm APO Summicron.
When I visited Paris some 20 years ago I carried my petite 20mm f4, 50mm f1.4 and a telephoto lens I forget what focal length. I used the Nikon FE film camera. My kit was pretty light and I had no problem getting the photos I wanted.
But whatever you bring to Paris guard it very carefully wherever you go and never leave it unattended.
Expect a lot of people around this lady if you want a good photo.
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#5. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0
I live in Paris and use the D3x, strolling around with it...
I carry it with my right hand while walking (strap around wrist) so as not to raise more attention from others in crowds. I use smaller prime lenses, one on the camera and two in my jacket's pockets.
If I had to "visit" my own city, I wouldn't change a thing and still take the 35/2, 50/1.8, 85/1.8, as I do when visiting other cities as Istanbul...
When I know I'm to see some great interiors (Cathedrals, mosques, etc.) I add the 20/2.8 !
I believe it's all linked to what one's want and expect of such a trip, photo wise. A M9 would do the job just as well if the owner is used to focus quickly (or use hyperfocal), as many interesting shots might need to be taken quickly (it's a crowded place !).
I do take some "low light" pictures from time to time and seldom go over 800/1600 ISO so I guess the M9 could manage that too and would be easier to hand hold...
But then, I would take only one camera and a few lenses, so depending of the final use of the pictures, I might only choose the V1 if I had one... And use the extra time to sip some wine at some café terrace
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#6. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0
As usual, it depends. I just got back from Paris, and I took a Fuji x10 - and a D3. I used the D3 a LOT more (by nearly 5:1). I also used my 12-24 a LOT. That's 12-24 on FX, not DX; yes, the ultra-ultra wide. I did not use the 105 very much, and had little or no requirement for the 70-200 that did make the trip. I'll admit that I probably would have used it with a better carrying system around town. I used the 24-70 a lot, a bit more than the 12-24. I did take a tripod, and I used it a fair amount.
A colleague who went on the same trip found his D50 too much to carry around, and he barely used it.
I never made it to any of the museums on this trip. If that is of importance to you, the D3s will obliterate the M9 - museums are low light dungeons, and previous trips have made me quite aware that the best ticket there is a great high ISO sensor and a VR lens, even if it's a slow one. Ie I would take a 24-120/f4 VR over the 24-70/f2.8 in the museums any day. (Make that every day.)
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#7. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0
#8. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 0
Just love Paris.
We spend a lot of time there.
My advise. Travel light bring your imagination!
I have a pocket handhold that I use for 95 percent of my "street" shots and scouting expeditions The days I go out to do the serious stuff I take a tripod and only the lenses I really need usually in the 16-35 range. Rarely use anything greater than that but have a zoom that covers all the midranges that usually remains back in the room.
One thing for sure, you will want to return and don't forget there is a whole world just outside of Paris
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#9. "RE: Paris, what should I bring? M9 or D3S ?" | In response to Reply # 8Sun 29-Apr-12 09:28 PM
Thank you all for all the great advise! Off to Paris tonight and I'll come back to this thread and post pictures from whatever camera I will bring, as of now, V1 + M9 wins it break my hear to leave the D3s home but looks like I have no other choice since I will likely don't have any serious work in Paris (My wife is a singer and she told me no photo session there)
See you all in 10 days