This is the method I use on my wife: Start as high as you can and bargin your way down to what you want... The only problem is you are at the top and I don't think you can go higher unless you pull a quick one on her like I did to my wife. I started at a Leica R9 with digital module and some lenses which was beyond the $10000 range and have worked myself down to where she thinks a D200 and 17-55 is a bargin GOOD LUCK!!!
Tell her that you need the camera to capture fleeting moments in time of her and her beautiful children. Of course that can only be accomplished with a camera that will fire at 8FPS. Remind her that the kids will only be in their current very memorable and precious form for a very short time and times awastin'.
If you don't have kids, you better get her a pet for you to photograph.
I also used excuse 2), only it was for pictures of my daughter - and our new puppy. I want to have the best pictures possible, ones that would last forever and provide us with memories for a lifetime. Stuff like that usually gets eaten-up, hook, line and sinker!
Many wives are actually smart enough to see right through this ploy (depending on how many times you've used it - in my case its more than the number served by McDonalds ), but they still find it hard to argue with the logic. My wife was also understanding that I wanted to own the absolute best camera that Nikon has ever made... gosh I love that girl!
This is actually a legitimate reason, I actually need to get the new CLS flash system for doing interiors without all the time consuming setup, measure, balance, shoot, re-balance, re-shoot cycles. But it's not a one-spouse justified purchase sadly. If I thought I could put a pair of Quantums on my existing D1x and get the same thing I'd consider it, but I'm pretty sure it's not enough. It's the difference between doing 3-4 gigs an afternoon or 1. This isn't my primary income, granted, but it's a big difference in income.
When it is an investment to genrate income it is sometimes easier, sometimes harder, to justify as one would like to calculate return. For those of us who do not make money selling images, we do not calculate monetary reutrns.
Hello Nikonians, I am bitmaker's wife, and us wives like to see what "justifications" you post here , because you understand fair is fair and what's mine is mine and what's his is mine too! So my fellow Nikonians, continue to post your stratagies because we are happily developing our counter points and making plans on what we want at our local malls, tee hee!
Last Saturday morning, my other half finally wore me down about trying for a family. I'm not in such a rush and I've been dragging my heels for a while (I need maximum time with my Nikons!). She was so happy that I'd finally agreed, that I decided to push my luck. I said, "Does that mean I can buy a new toy today?" and she said yes!
Off we went to town, and I was expecting to pick up a used lens bargain, or something. Unfortunately, my local LCE had a 105mm f/2.8 VR - AND a D200 - both IN STOCK! Oh dear. All I did was punch in four little numbers. It was so painless.
After just about getting away with a D2x last year, I was expecting the worst as I reported back (she was buying shoes, of course). I'm still in one piece, have a lovely D200 to compliment the Big Daddy D2x, and that 105 VR is VERY cool (my first VR).
This subject has been discussed countless times already.
One proven, true, infallible strategic approach to this problem is to make this HER idea. Tactics are more difficult, you have to use a little imagination.
For example, if you are out of shape and overweight, state that you need to get back in shape badly. Suggest that you don't have much time on your hand and add that you should really combine this with your hobby. Explain that you need a pro body because you are going to take it outside in the rain and mud. Get the picture? }>
Michel G. Sylvestre Nikonian from Montréal, Canada
>For example, if you are out of shape and overweight, state >that you need to get back in shape badly. Suggest that you >don't have much time on your hand and add that you should >really combine this with your hobby. Explain that you need >a pro body because you are going to take it outside in the >rain and mud. Get the picture?
Hmmm...will try that one on the next purchase!
(~;----Bob Gallagher----;~) When 'Iris' Eyes are Smilin'
(~;----Bob Gallagher----;~) "Never let your Artistic License expire"
Maybe I am in the minority but my wife actually *encourages* me to buy more gear. Actually, not entirely true - she wants me to have the best tools (as long as we can afford it) as I am now a full time working pro (finally - yahoo!).
Over the past year, she has encouraged me to get:
- a D2X - a third SB-800 - CF tripod - Epson P2000 - 85/1.4
- 200-400/4 VR AF-S
She woke me up early on a Saturday to take her shopping - camera shopping that is. We came back with a Fuji s9000 for her.
I didn't justify my camera to my spouse. I told her I was thinking of buying a new DSLR. She replied that she thought that was fine and not to be too cheap with my purchase. I bought the D2x and didn't tell her what it cost, not because of being in trouble but rather so she wouldn't be afraid of using it. She thought it was quite nice.
Just before Christmas she asked what I'd like for a gift. I told her a Gadget bag would be nice. So Of she went to Central Camera in downtown Chicago. She asked for a case that would hold a D2x and they showed her a few and how the camera would fit with extra lenses, etc. The sales person grabbed a D2x out of the showcase and she saw the price. Ever since she's been hesitant to really hold and use the camera lest she break it.
But she was never a bit angry. Gotta love that girl.
Bill North Wisdom cannot be given, it must be gathered...
I told my wife that if I had to deal with the buffer on my D100 much longer, I would probably have a stroke. She just said to go ahead and buy it. You might also try the safety card. Something like dangerous emissions comming from your present camera that they have corrected with the D2X. Seriously, honesty is the best policy (in most cases).
>The sales person >grabbed a D2x out of the showcase and she saw the price. >Ever since she's been hesitant to really hold and use the >camera lest she break it.
This is interesting... my wife is the same way. She throws the D70 around like it was free, but is extremely hesitant to even hold the D2X. I don't really understand this... I now avoid telling her how much lenses cost so that she will at least use them on the D70!
Jess, The ironic thing is the d2x would probably take more rough handling without damage. I suppose I should be grateful she respects my property, and I suppose her future property as women usually live longer.
Bill North Wisdom cannot be given, it must be gathered...
My longtime girlfriend has been asking for the engagement ring. Now I've been the single-guy flag carrier for more than my fair share, but now I'm starting to cave in. The last time she mentioned what kind of diamond she wanted (groan), I countered that if I bought the ring (I already had it BTW), then SHE would have to upgrade my D2H to an "X" . She agreed! Score! Apparently the trick is to get them when they are trying to get you. I'll probably let her off the hook by just leting her get the D2Hs for me instead. But some gig I've got going here, huh?