Anyone check out the new Nikkor lenses at Photokina?
Really looking forward to a review of the Nikkor 24-85/2.8-4.
Nikkor 24-85/2.8-4 vs Tokina 28-80/2.8?
Anyone get to check out the Nikkor 80-400 VR?
#1. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 0Michael O Basic MemberTue 26-Sep-00 04:07 PM
Sorry Kim, I did not look at the 24-85 but I did try out the new 300f4 and 80-400VR lenses. The VR lens looks very good though I now wish it was an AFS lens. The AF was on the quick side but has that slow travel when going from infinity to close focus in certain contrasty lighting. The lens is very well made, robust and compact but the VR looks to set a new standard. Providing you make a good attempt to hold the lens steady then you get rock solid images through the viewfinder at 400mm. I think it may indeed be possible to handhold 400mm at 1/8sec!!! Quality through the viewfinder looked excellent, probably very close to the AFN80-200f2.8. I could not detect any distortion throughout the range, if only it was AFS this would have been an extremely desirable lens, instead it's just plain desirable
The real star though was the 300f4 which it appears Nikon have uprated to not just AFS but an improved version. The performance was blistering, probably the fastest performing lens on the market..with an F80,F100 or F5 it ran rings around C lenses, I would say 50% faster, no kidding, everyone who tried it was surprised by the increase in speed and accuracy. A lens that can finally match speed of thought and very compact too. Looking good.
#2. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 1Tue 26-Sep-00 06:39 PM
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Thanks for the quick review on the 80-400VR.
I still plan on using a monopod with this lens almost all of the time. The major aspect I'm looking for is the range & reasonable focus speed.
A couple of questions:
1. I've seen 2 different specs w different dimensions on this lens. The specs have different lengths of ~7 inches and another in the ~10 inch range. Sorry about not centimeters. Approximately what length was it?
Longer or Shorter than the 80-200/2.8?
2. I'm currently using a non-afs Nikkor 2 ring 80-200/2.8 w Tamron 2X pro. Think the focus speed is faster than that on a F100 class camera?
3. How do you rate the quality of the 80-400VR in relation to the 300/4 at the same range?
4. Any news on availability?
#3. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 2Michael O Basic MemberWed 27-Sep-00 05:22 PM
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1. Yes, it is very compact though bulkier and the lens barrel does extend to another 4/5 inches at 400mm.
2.At a guess, not knowing your combination...Yes, it is acceptably quick for most situations.
3.Not as sharp overall against the old 300f4 af but probably sharper than the AFN 80-200, but with top class zooms you could convince yourself the sharpness and contrast is similar to a prime lens... but it is not. Then again the latest lens coatings will produce more natural looking results.
4. Not encouraging, the German Nikon rep said 'sometime this fall' yet a number of respectable dealers have said September. It looks pretty ready to me unless they are thinking of adding........
#4. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 3Wed 27-Sep-00 05:37 PM
So, shorter than 80-200/2.8 when ~80mm & longer at 400mm?
One concern is trying to understand what camera bags this will fit into.
If it focuses as fast as a non-afs 80-200/2.8 wo teleconverter, then I'll be happy!
Not expecting as good as a prime, but hopefully still sharp.
Very happy to hear that it looks baked & could be coming in next couple of months or sooner.
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#7. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 2Sat 30-Sep-00 12:53 AM
Stopped by my local camera shop today to pick up some pictures. I found a 1 page product infomation sheet on the AF VR Zoom-Nikkor 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6ED lens. They also told me that they expect it in by mid-October, but it may even come in earlier. I'm first on the wait list & I am really looking forward to tryin it out.
The info sheet gives the dimensions: 3.6" dia x 6.7" length & 47.3oz in case anyone is interested. Sorry, they don't have the cm dimensions, but I'm sure you can convert. From what Michael said it sounds like that the lens grows quite a bit (4-5") when zoomed out, but cannot tell from the info sheet.
Does not say whether the VR lens rotates when focusing (IF). If not IF, it seems like the focus would be on the slow side too. I would think that they would mention whether it is IF in the product info sheet. Sure hope it is IF so I do not have the polarizer & GND hastles. Michael, do you know?
They also thought that the ~5 lenses that Nikon announced recently including the VR & 24-85/2.8-4 should be here by mid-Oct.
The new Nikkor 18-35 already arrived & they are selling it.
Not a bad way to end a not so great week!
#8. "RE: Any news from Photokina?" | In response to Reply # 7Sat 30-Sep-00 02:34 AM
specification on the NikonUSA website indicates that the filter on the VR 80-400 does not rotate for focusing nor zooming.
Also says dimensions are Approx. 5.5 inches dia. x 10.4 inches.
Dimensions: 5.5" vs 3.6" dia & 10.5" vs 6.7" length
Cannot wait to see what it really is like.
Michael, is the new product info sheet right on dimensions or the website? Also, Filter does not rotate, right?