Although I am a newbie here, I am very much a Nikonian ^_^
My question is that I have been using F80S with AF 85mm lense for taking portrait pictures. However, whenever I look at my pictures, I can always feel there is a feeling of "distance" between me and the subject. Are there any lenses that can bridge the "gap"? I have heard serveral others saying that by using 35mm lense, one could get a much more "intimate" feelings....is that true?
Thanx for all the helps
#1. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 0darrell Nikonian since 01st Feb 2002Wed 06-Feb-02 12:26 PM
The classic portrait focal length is 105mm. What do you really mean by intimate though -- closer? I would think the answer to distance is more magnification not less. Shooting with a 35mm is like using your 85 and taking two giant steps backward. I digress though. A lot of the 105mm portrait lenses offer defocus controls which allow you to get the soft focus look favoured by some portrait photgraphers.
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#2. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 1Wed 06-Feb-02 03:26 PM
Thanx for your prompt reply. What I meant by intimate is a feeling that the subject you are shooting at is not some distance away from you...eh.... really don't know how to express this kind of feeling well...
BTW, "Canuck Nikonian"...are you from Canada? Nice to have met a fellow countryman in here ^^ I used to live in Vancouver but now, I am working in Taipei, Taiwan.
#13. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 1MarkE Registered since 26th Oct 2006Mon 11-Feb-02 03:20 PM
>Shooting with a 35mm is like using your 85 and taking two giant steps
Darrell, I am not sure I can agree with your statement in the context of this discussion. I have both lenses and there are obvious differences in perspective between the two. Assuming that the frame was filled to the same degree in both cases, the 35mm will produce some unpleasant distortion in a portrait.
#4. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 0
I have been shooting portraits for years with the 85-90-105 range of lenes, the photos look like there are step back but this can be good. Most models do not like you in their face, unless you are shooting you other half who loves you no matter what (and even though she thinks you are taking pics of her nose hairs), the 85 and 105 allows you to step back a bit, I have even used a 200mm or sometimes a 300mm; just to give me that working distance (and a really nice blurred background).
Yes I too have used a 35mm for some portraits but only on my other half, she does not mind me being so close, and it does give a much more intimate feel to it, but then I am bias on the subject.
But on other people I have stuck with my 50mm, the 90mm and the 105mm (and my newlly recived 85mm) and even then the 50mm is a little too close, unless you have a couple.
I hope this helps you out a little.
Oh and BTW next time you are home in Vancouver look me up, I am not all that far away.
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#5. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 4Nikon_Freak Basic MemberWed 06-Feb-02 05:17 PM
I typically use a 105mm until I broke it. I replaced it with a 100mm Series E lens that does a good job too, after I got frustrated trying to find a 105. I have the 85mm f:1.8 AFD lens that I recently aquire and I like it also. I have broken the rules a few times and used a 28-70 zoom too using the high end of the lens and had better than decent results. The problem with using a Wide angle even a 35mm is that your going to give the subject a wide nose. They may not appriciate that. Hope this helps.
#6. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 4Thu 07-Feb-02 03:11 PM
Hi John R,
Thanx for your advice. I guess I would stick with my AF 85mm lense for taking pics of my friends
By the way, which lense do you think gives the best result for portrait purpose....an AF 85mm F1.4D or AF 105mm DC?
Sure...the next time I am back in there, I will look you up ^^
#7. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 6highlander Basic MemberFri 08-Feb-02 03:33 AM
I have only ever used the 85 1.4, I have played with the 105 DC but never have used it. I can only tell you what I think of the lens based on my 20mins of checking it out.
It was bright and easy to focus, the DC did do what it is suppose to. But nothing a $90 Tiffen Soft FX filter can not do on my 105 2.5. So is it worth the extra $1200...... no would be my responce, someone else may say diffrent.
But I find the 105 range on lens to be best for portraits.
This has been one mans opinion
JRP, BTW that is a great shot.
Nikonian to the West Coast of Canada
Taking life 2-gigs at a time
#8. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 7Fri 08-Feb-02 05:07 AM
Thank to you all!!
This is really a great site for newbies like me...
p.s. John R, I thought that DC only alters the foreground and background of the pic.... I think you are absolutely right, if I need to have a softer image on my subject's face, I would just go ahead and using a soft lense
#9. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 8Keith_S Basic MemberFri 08-Feb-02 01:36 PM
I've been going back and forth on what portrait lens to buy myself. I've been waffling between the following lenses:
I am hesitant to get the 105mm, as I have been shooting some portraits with my 28-105mm and think that since I don't shoot professional models who are used to having a camera in their faces, I would like to be able to have closely cropped frames without intimidating my subjects. If it's a truly great lens, though, I might go ahead and get it. The 80-200mm zoom would give me more room to step back from my subjects, but I wonder if the images taken with that lens would be as sharp as either of the primes and the extra weight would probably force me to always be using a tripod, which limits some spontaneous shooting options and makes environmental portraits more difficult. And so maybe the 135mm or the 180mm are decent compromise options...
What do you folks think? It seems to come down to three issues for me:
focal length, weight, and image sharpness, all more or less equally important (which makes it harder to choose, of course <:->)...
#10. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 9abe Charter MemberFri 08-Feb-02 03:27 PM
You might want to think about the Micro Nikkor AF 2.8/105. To me, it has always been my favourite portrait lens. Sharp (perhaps too sharp sometimes, so have a soft filter at hand), fast (nice blurred background), and it has a good feel both in AF and manual modes. It gives you more distance than the 1.8/85, which is my favourite for street photography and available light shots. The 2.8/105 also gives you the added benefit of a serious macro lens. I´d say the 105 gives you just enogh distance for nice portraits. The 2.8/80-200 is a "must have" for me, but often too heavy and bulky for close portrait work.
#11. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 10MoX Basic MemberFri 08-Feb-02 07:37 PM
Yes, I was going to suggest that lense to you also because I've heard many good things about that lense in general, and I've heard it takes some damn good portraits too! A lense that is like this lense that you may want to check out is the TOKINA AT-X M100AF. You should read the article JRP has written on this lense. It convinced me it was good!
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#12. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 11MarkE Registered since 26th Oct 2006Mon 11-Feb-02 03:15 PM
I have been using the 85 1.8 D AF for quite a while and it has become my favorite lens for portraits. I have used it for hundreds of weddings and am very pleased with the results.
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#14. "RE: Portrait lense" | In response to Reply # 6
Sample "intimate" shot with a 100mm
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