This will be the first time I have asked for any ones advice about a lens. I have always been able to make up my mind by doing my own research and reading reviews. I want to buy two new lenses in the next couple of weeks.
1. Nikkor 80-200 F/2.8D IF-ED AF-S
2. Nikkor 28-70 F/2.8D IF-ED AF-S
I have read what reviews there are on the 28-70 AFS. Nelson Tans review on this lens says that the lens does not change it's length while it is focusing. There is no mention of of how this lens zooms. My question about this is..Does it zoom internally too? I have read in another review that the lens changes its size but it was not mentioned if it changed during zoom or during focusing.
If any one has any experience with this lens I would appreciate any information you could give me on it. Good or bad.
Also Nelson talked about the Tokina 28-70 2.6 - 2.8 ATX Pro II
and gave it a very good review. Any body have any experience with this lens? It is almost 4 times less expensive than the comparable Nikkor. Just wondering!!!!
#1. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 0jrp Charter MemberTue 04-Sep-01 12:01 AM
IF means Internal Focus. Meaning it moves internal elements to focus, does not have to move the exterior barrel nor rotate it.
I do own the 80-200mm f/2.8D ED IF AF-S. One word: outstanding!
Below a dear sample (no longer available after september 20):
I do not own the 28-70mm f/2.8D ED IF AF-S since I went other route, that of the 17-35mm f/2.8D ED IF AF-S and the 35-70mm f/2.8D for much more coverage at the lower end. As for the Tokina equivalent you can see Doug Dever's report at Resources - Non-Nikon Articles or by following the link here
Have a great time
JRP (Nikonian at the north-eastern Mexican desert) My profile
Previous photographic journey, before Nikonians: A Brief Love Story
Have a great time :-)
JRP (Founder & Administrator. Mainly at the north-eastern Mexican desert) Gallery, Brief Love Story
Please join the Silver, Gold and Platinum members who help this happen; upgrade.
Check our workshops at the Nikonians Academy and the Nikonians Photo Pro Shop
#2. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 0AlanC Basic MemberWed 05-Sep-01 02:31 PM
The 28-70 AF-S does change length as you zoom, extending about three quarters of an inch at 28mm and less than a quarter of an inch at 70mm. It doesn't change length as you focus.
This is my favourite lens: it's the one that stays on my D1 by default. I'm at a bit of a loss as to what else to say about it because, basically, it does everything it should do and nothing it shouldn't.
#4. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 2Wed 05-Sep-01 09:17 PM
Thanks for the information about the 28-70 changing it's length when it zooms. My local camera stores don't have any in stock so I couldn't see for my self, and I have read a couple of conflicting reviews about the lens changing it's size. I hope to own that lens real soon.
I shoot a lot of head shots and for that I like my 105 2.8 micro, also my 80 200 2.8 does a respectable job.
I want to purchase the 28-70 AFS to fill the gap between my 17-35 AFS. Do I think that AFS is critical for this focal length... HELL NO. To be truthful about it I really love these AFS lenses, they are a thing of beauty, and I am now oficially addicted to AFS. (I have JRP to blame for that) I have a 24 2.8 and a 50 1.4 in my bag and I rarely use them, I really dont know why I don't use them much, they are really nice lenses.
You are probably right about buying the 85 for portraits and the 28-105 for hiking, weight is definitely a consideration when one does a lot of walking. I think I will be satisfied with the range and speed of the 28-70 because I have other lenses to cover the upward gap if needed. Although I will admit JRP has me thinking about the 35-70 2.8, but I just love those AFS lenses.
I bought the 80-200 AFS today, all I can say is WOW. I also sold my 80-200 two touch today. 35-70 2.8 Hmmmmm.
Thanks all for responding to my post.
#5. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 4AlanC Basic MemberThu 06-Sep-01 04:30 PM
>I am now oficially addicted to AFS...
I know just how you feel. I bought the 28-70 when I got my D1 and was instantly hooked. The 17-35 followed almost immediately since I wanted to go wide angle (the D1's CCD is about 2/3 of the size of 35mm film so you get a field of view equivalent to a lens of 1.5 times the focal length). I tried to resist the temptation of the 80-200... the AF-D version's performance is near as makes no odds as good... but there's some justification for having the speed of the silentwave autofocus on a lens like that... so....
You won't regret buying any of those lenses for one moment - once your bank balance has recovered.
#3. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 0
I too am considering this lens. I finally had an opportunity to look at one last week and was very impressed with its build quality. However there are a couple of things that are forcing me to seriously think twice about this decision :
- I'm looking for a good normal zoom that I can also use for portraits. 70mm at the long end is a bit short for this purpose.
- 2.8 is relatively fast, but I like to shoot available light so would prefer F 2.0 or faster.
- This lens is HEAVY. I do alot of hiking and don't think the lens will be very friendly to my back and leg muscles (I'd sooner pack my 80-400 VR).
- I can purchase the revered 85mm F/1.4 for portrait work AND the lighter and respectable 28-105 F/3.5-4.5 for hiking AND STILL save $450 Cdn!
I haven't completely decided which way I'm going to go and would be interested in hearing why you think this is the lens for you. Do you think AF-S is critical for this focal length? Are you OK with the range and speed?
Either way, good luck with your decision.
Visit my Nikonians gallery.
#6. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 0
Rick: You will probably note in other messages, I sold my Nikkor 80-200mm AF D f2.8 for other lenses. Rest assured this is an amazing (heavy) optics and a five star performer. It is IF (internal zoom), the lens length does not change.
I did own a Tokina 28-70mm f2.6-2.8 ATX Zoom. On a trip to Alaska I used Tokina Zoom 90% of the time. All images were superb. Again, always use a hood. Now I wish I had this lens back in my camera bag.
#7. "RE: Nikon 28-70 2.8 D IF-ED AF - S" | In response to Reply # 0
I posted the answers to your questions under Alan C's reply.