After hearing you guys talking so much about the 105 f/2.5 I'm thinking about buying it together with a N90s for portraits. I know the lens is manual focus, but after all, for portraits the AF is not really necessary. How would the N90s meetering work with a non AF lens, especially this one? Does anybody uses this combination? Is there any samples you guys could post so I can have an idea of the sharpness and bokeh of this lens?
#2. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 0f8bthere Basic MemberThu 23-Aug-01 04:13 PM
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I use the 105mm f/2.5 on my N8008s (very close to the N90s) all of the time, and it works fine. I use the camera on aperture priority, and of course center weighted metering pattern. People were getting great shots for decades without Matrix metering, and this is no exception. For a semi-formal portrait, you have time to work the exposure, the telephoto lens assures that the most important part of the scene (the face) fills the frame, and usually portraits are shot on print film which is not a big problem as far as exposure.
Get this lens and you will have a Nikon classic. If I lost everything in my photo closet tomorrow, the 105mm f/2.5, 35mm f/1.4 and an FM2 would be the first things replaced.
#3. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 0RickD Basic MemberThu 23-Aug-01 06:23 PM
Why not get the 105mm 2.8 micro and keep all the functions of your camera and get a Micro lens to boot.I own the 2.8 and the N90s and am very happy with the combination. Of course I do not own or have any experience with the 105 2.5 so I dont have it to compare my 2.8 to. But could it be that much better than the 2.8? My intention is not to start a war or insult the 2.5, I am only offering a suggestion. If I have stepped on any ones toes, you have my apologies now.
#5. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 3Joe Guzzi Basic MemberThu 23-Aug-01 09:28 PM
I have 105 2.5 and a 60 2.8 micro. There is just that extra something about the 105 2.5 that makes it a great portrait lens, I believe it is due to its less complex optical design. Many people use the 105 2.8 micro for portraits, and in many situations it works well. But for head and shoulder portraits of mature women or younger women with less than perfect skin the 2.5 at 2.5/2.8 to f/4 has a natural softness that is very flattering. The micro could work for children or males of most any age, but for women you'd be posting questions about softening filters. Then there is the matter of brokeh...
#7. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 5jrp Charter MemberThu 23-Aug-01 09:57 PM
"But could it be that much better than the 2.8?"
Unfortunately yes. And I say unfortunately because neither nor I own it today. I use to have one, donated it with some other goodies some time back and I really miss it. As soon as feasible I'll get a brand new one back.
"My intention is not to start a war or insult the 2.5, I am only offering a suggestion. If I have stepped on any ones toes, you have my apologies now."
Rick, you have always been a gentleman.
Each lens is designed for a specific purpose or need. The 105mm f/2.8 is from my very personal perspective the best macro lens in the price/results ratio. That we extend its properties to make out the best from it also for portraits is one thing; to compare it with the 105mm f/2.5 for portraits ....... yes ... heresy or close to it.
I was very hesitant to post a comment because I like to back my comments with illustrations; none available at this point in time. However, believe me, this lens is a legend because of the results with it.
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#6. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 0
The Nikkor 105 2.5 AI/S lens is really one of the great lenses of all times & a definite Nikon classic.It can hold it's own against any modern lens. A geat performer even when used wide open.
I use it on the F1OO & loose matrix metering, & shutter priority but retain aperture priority,spot & manual metering. I use it mainly for portraits which was it's primary design function & therefore have no need for matrix metering ,auto focus,or shutter priority.
If I'm not mistaken it works the same on tne N90.
Besides the great optical performance the lens built quality far surpasses just about most current A/F lenses.
Buy it you will never regret it.
#9. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 8f8bthere Basic MemberFri 24-Aug-01 04:25 PM
That price might not be that bad. I bought a brand new one in the mid 1980's for about 200 Dollars, and a used one in excellent condition in 1997 for 300 Dollars. I accepted the price increase knowing what I was getting. I stupidly sold the first one in the early '90's, thinking I would go 100% auto focus, and kicked myself until I replaced it.
One thing to make certain of is that because this lens has been with the Nikon line up since the beginning, there are several versions of the lens. Some variations were strictly cosmetic, but there was some optical tweaking that occurred over the years. To be certain you are getting the latest AIS model, make sure that the highest aperture (f/22) is in orange. The earlier models were not bad, but I wouldn't pay that price for one. This lens will last forever, so get the latest one.
#10. "RE: 105 f/2.5 with N90s" | In response to Reply # 8tomas Basic MemberFri 24-Aug-01 05:22 PM
>Thanks to all that answered,
>Does $220 sounds like a good
>price for this lens?
>It's in excellent condition.
The price seems to be fair if it's an orginal AI OR AIS lens that hasn't been converted to AI or AIS by someone other than Nikon. In fact I would only buy an original AI/AIS lens that's not been converted because they are the newer versions.The newer versions which are either AI or AIS are all outfited with a rubberised focusing collar & offer better image definition, enhanced close range performance & improved color saturation. They also perform better than the older non AI or AIS versions wide open with much better flare control because of the multi coating of the lens.
Just make sure you check the lens out for scratches,fungus, rub marks & oil deposits on the aperture blades.
I purchased a used AI version in an 8+ condition for $150.00 & have been more than pleased with it's performance.