VR 80-400 may be delayed until year end?
That's the rumer I heard today.
Anyone else know anything?
#2. "RE: VR 80-400 may be delayed until year end?" | In response to Reply # 1Tue 08-Aug-00 05:02 PM
I would not complain!
Anyone have any connections inside Nikon?
I received email from Moose Peterson today (probably most of you did also), that he has not heard a word about the VR 80-400.
#4. "RE: VR 80-400 may be delayed until year end?" | In response to Reply # 3jrp Charter MemberWed 01-Nov-00 12:12 AM
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-00 AT 03:17 AM (GMT)
I received the following e-mail from Moose today:
Snow now blankets the landscape as winter starts its grasp on our Sierra home. I'm looking forward to it as our new office has LOTS of shooting windows, perfect for the new 80-400VR.
I received my production line model a week ago and it's just as beautiful as the prototype I played with in Feb.! Stores are now receiving the lens, but in very limited quantity it would appear. If you have an order at Pro Photo, I'd give them a call fast, it's a great lens.
I won't have a full review of the lens on the website for a few weeks, so wanted to give you some info now. Here it is.
While I’m not a VR/IS fan, I am a giant fan of this lens which is tack sharp! It has: a length of 6.9”, an aperture range from f4.5-32, meter coupling, a filter size of 77mm, an angle of view of 6°-30°, a weight of 48oz (42.7oz without tripod collar). Those familiar with lens specs can tell just from these numbers there is something special about the 80-400VR!
The first and most eye catching aspect of the 80-400VR is its physical size, small! This is a small lens only 2/3 the size the 80-200f2.8AFS. This very small package makes this lens extremely easy to handhold which is a big plus for its 400mm focal length. The lens focuses down to 7.5 feet which is very impressive and make the lens extremely versatile! If you want one wildlife lens to do all, this is it!
The 80-400VR has a number of new innovations for Nikon.
The most notable is the inclusion of Vibration Reduction or VR technology. This technology is said to permit one to handhold a lens at a shutter speed three times slower and still capture sharp images. This whole phrase is a little out of whack so let me explain it. The normal school of thought (which is bull) is that if you have a 500mm focal length lens, the slowest shutter speed you should shoot at is 1/500 (which basically means you can only shoot when the full sun is out which is hogwash!). With the VR technology, you can now shoot at a shutter speed of 1/60 and capture the came crisp image as if shooting at 1/500. Of course, if the subject is moving, this all goes out the window!
The VR technology only works on camera bodies with the five AF sensors, the D1, F5, F100 and N80. The five sensors are part of the VR operation which is why it’s required. The lens itself has two “ON” switches. ON with one symbol (sorry, no other way to describe it) activates the VR only when the picture is taken. This is for folks who might get “sea sick” looking through the lens with the VR is active.
This mode also saves on battery power as the lens is powered via the body’s battery. The other VR mode, ON with two symbols, has the VR on all the time so if you go not have a steady hand or platform, you can see the VR working. \
There are some caveats in using the VR capabilities. In the ON with two symbols mode, you should wait one second after activating the camera/VR before actually taking the photo. If you’re panning, the VR technology will only work in for the opposite vector. For example if you’re panning horizontally, only vibration in the vertical direction is reduced. The makes panning smoother because the lens isn’t fighting you. After you take the photo, the image in the viewfinder might blur, might not. Don’t turn the power of the camera off while the lens is doing its VR thing. Doing so might cause the lens to talk back at you. It’s not hurting the lens and to stop it, just turn the body back on. Same thing goes for removing the lens from the body while the lens is operating. When the lens is mounted to a tripod, turn the VR off.
Other cool innovations in the 80-400VR are the tripod collar and A/M switch. The tripod collar rotates a full 360 degrees very smoothly. It is also completely removable in a entirely new way. There is an arrow on the tripod collar and when this arrow is lined up on the lens barrel, the tripod collar comes off. The lens can’t be attached to a body at the time, but it’s a really slick system providing great performance. The A/M autofocus / manual focus switch on the lens has an added lock feature. You can either lock it easily into either focusing mode, or leave it so you can quickly switch between focusing modes. It’s really well thought out.
One other really cool thing about this lens is the lens case, totally unNikon! This case is hard to describe other then it’s like a long case made by Lowepro but smaller in size and custom fitted to the 80-400. It’s nylon not leather, very versatile and I’m sure will be a hit in its own right. Only took, what, forty years to get a good lens case with a lens!
While not a fan of VR/IS I truly am a fan of this lens because of the lens itself. It zooms quickly, focuses reasonably fast and if you know to prefocus, quite fast enough. It’s light, small and compact and most importantly to me, sharp through its range, corner to corner. I knew when I played with the first prototype I would be buying it, and it would become a main lens in my camera bag which it has.
Please don't email with more questions, this is all I have to
offer at this time.
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#5. "what's the rush?" | In response to Reply # 0
I would like to ask respectfully about something that is making me think. Is there not some logic in letting a new product hit the market for awhile, letting it prove itself, and then based on its proven performance, buying it?
In various Nikonians threads, there are many discussions about cameras that had growing pains, low serial number range weaknesses, and a higher than normal rate of warrantee services... including beefing up first production run problems that only showed up in use.
Some advancements are evolutionary and some are revolutionary. This lens is revolutionary. Its delay might indicate that things were not as resolved as they could be within a self imposed time constraint. It might be a good idea to let this product hit the market, see if it succeeds or fails, and then based on an informed decision... purchase the lens, (or not).
A year from now, we might have a thread in the Nikkors section for a 80-400 VR user satisfaction survey, or questions about which serial number was the cut-off for the problematic servo... or what not. Sometimes, not being the first on your block with the newest toy, is not such a bad thing.
Just a thought.
#6. "RE: what's the rush?" | In response to Reply # 5Wed 01-Nov-00 09:35 PM
LAST EDITED ON Nov-02-00 AT 01:08 AM (GMT)
Well, I'll let you know. I picked mine up on Monday. Love the size & range. My camera shop got 1 in & I reserved mine back in Feb.
I'll try it out for real this weekend for my daughter's soccer games.
Yes, it is probably crazy to get the 1st round of something new like this, but I am currently using an 80-200/2.8 w a 2X Tamron Pro. The 400mm is great, but the 160mm is not. This range 80-400 is going to be perfect. The 5yr warrentee makes me feel ok about it. I am trying it on the VR for picture only & not the view finder. I tried it at the lake the other day to finish off a roll. We'll see in a couple of days how it came out, but I really want this for the soccer shots.
1st pass on focus is that it is a lot faster than the non-afs & the 2X. Size is that it fits in all my camera bags.
I've been waiting for this since it was anounced & I read Moose's first review. I guess I'll see for myself real soon.