Wed 04-Dec-13 05:33 PM | edited Thu 05-Dec-13 01:09 AM by laddad
I have been doing a series of late night photography of my community. It has mostly been done with my D800 and AFS 17-35mm f/2.8, AFS 24-70mm f/2.8, or AFS 50mm f/1.4 lens. A series of five exposures are made while using a tripod. The shots are then merged into an HDR image with Photomatix. Lens flair seems to be magnified by the HDR process. Flair seems worse with my 24-70mm, close but maybe a bit less with my 17-35mm and almost rare with my 50mm f/1.4. In all cases I remove the lens filter while shooting. I cannot avoid point sources of light when shooting at night in town. It looks like zooms are much worse that fixed focal length lenses for flair. I'm not convinced the "nano coating" helps that much. I need something wider than my 50mm. I have AF 20mm f/2.8 that I have not used but figured it was too wide. Thinking about purchase of a AF 24mm f/2.8 or AF 28mm f/2.8 or maybe a AFS 28mm f/1.8. What are your thoughts about flair with these lenses? Maybe this is the excuse I have waiting for to purchase a PCE 24mm f/3.5 lens. How bad is flair on this one also? Oh, yes I forgot about my old PC MF 28mm f/3.8 (have not tried it yet). I often never appreciate the amount of lens flair until after post-processing.
Have you considered a 28mm f/2.0 AIS Nikkor? or the 20mm f/3.5 AIS Nikkor?
Both lenses are almost impervious to lens flare even with light sources close or in the frame. I found the infinity performance of the 28mm a bit better than the 20mm, however the 20mm close-up performance is very good.
Roger It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?
Yes, but of the lenses I have spoken of, which seems best for minimal flair?
Nikon AF 24mm f/2.8 Nikon PCE 24mm f/3.5 Nikon AFS 28mm f/1.8 Nikon AF 28mm f/2.8
I would prefer to get an auto-focus lens for new purchase. I know that the PCE lens is manual focus and expensive but I might spring for one regardless. I think the 20mm will be too wide. I already own a Nikon AF 20mm f/2.8 and a Nikon MF 20mm f/3.5 AI. I may try them since I have them but wanted something between 20mm and 50mm. I have never really like the 35mm but I guess it is an option also. Just want low flair potential!
Pardon a pedantic interjection, but it's lens "flare" not lens "flair." It's not just pedantry that makes me say that; if you do Internet searches you'll get better results with "lens flare" than "lens flair."
I guess you have a Flair for lenses Looks like your camera almost has cataracts. Seems like all lenses have issues with "Flare" in certain circumstances. I just took a recent picture with a bad case of Flare but it was due to my taking the picture at the wrong time of the day. Had I done so in the morning and not the evening I would not have had the Flare.
Laddie -- Unfortunately, I think you are going to find that lens flare is more a function of scene brightness range than of a specific lens. It manifests itself in scenes with bright lights and deep shadows, as well as in sun and moon lit scene in which the sun or moon are included. Some lenses may control this a bit better than others, but the extreme brightness range is simply going to create flares, to create an enlarged, softer obviously brighter image of that element of the scene. I don't frankly think there is a "flareless" lens under the circumstances being discussed.
Thu 05-Dec-13 03:27 AM | edited Thu 05-Dec-13 03:39 AM by laddad
Yes lens flare is significantly affected by scene brightness and this why I'm having such an issue. My present project is often 10 pm to midnight shoots in town. Bright street lights and dark streets. There is no flareless lens but under similar conditions there is lots of differences in flare from one lens to another. Tonight I took several shots under similar conditions on both a Nikon AF 20mm f/2.8 and a Nikon 20mm f/4 AI lens. The flare was much reduced on the manual focus f/4 lens.
Flare resistance of a lens is greatly affected by the quality of the coating that has been applied. Coating technology has significantly improved in recent years and modern lenses are generally better in this respect. The coating on Zeiss CF lenses is very good and flare resistance significantly contributes to the flair of these lenses (sorry, but I could not resist).
The attached was taken with a D700 and Zeiss 35/2 @2.0.
Thanks for posting this image, I was hoping someone would weigh in with a Zeiss product. Actually it's not good to tempt this close to the holidays but you're right, this is a very nicely flare-suppressed image.
Roger It's still, ISO, aperture and shutter-speed, right?
Roger - If you are looking for a nice holiday gift for yourself, you might want to consider the new Zeiss Otus 55/1.4. There are some beautiful night shots with this lens on the Zeiss site. Too bad this lens costs about $4k and weighs over two lbs.
>Flare resistance of a lens is greatly affected by the quality >of the coating that has been applied. Coating technology has >significantly improved in recent years and modern lenses are >generally better in this respect. The coating on Zeiss CF >lenses is very good and flare resistance significantly >contributes to the flair of these lenses (sorry, but I could >not resist).
Absolutely - Nikon's Nano coated glass is pretty fantastic as well, and going to a prime from a zoom usually means fewer elements and less flare as well. Of the list, I'd probably go for the AF-S 28 f/1.8 if I had to pick sight unseen, but I've never tired them because, when I do, NAS tends to kick in at sub-$1k prices, so the two AF-S Micros and 28 f/1.8 are lenses I steer clear of, even when given the opportunity to play with them.
My fav photography is 360 panos and I do this technique often. Presently I'm in the market for a fixed focal length prime lens that is somewhere between my 50mm and my two 20mm lenses. Just looking to invest in one that has less flare. My two zooms (Nikon 17-35mm f/2.8 & Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8) are bad with flare and primes should be better. Leaning towards the Nikon 28mm f/1.8 however I'm hoping someone can convince mr of the "need" of a PCE 24mm lens.