Looking at this lens used (of course) and wondering if it has been so eclipsed by the newer 24-70mm 2.8 G that I would be unhappy in comparison. Cost matters, but optics REALLY matter. Interested in sharpness and bokeh, and auto focusing ability.
ALSO: this lens has an aperture ring. In shooting video on the D600 will this permit adjustment of aperture during shooting (like when panning into a darker - or lighter - area)? I have no aperture lens to try on my D600. How would this work? When I tried such a lens in the shop, it flashed "EE" and refused to work in still mode, unless I set it to f22. Did not think to try it in video. Shop no longer has it to try - and I did a search before this query - so please do not flame me.
Does LR 4 have a lens correction profile for this lens? I do not see one. Any work arounds for this? Female subjects seem to complain about 28mm "making my face look fat". So, I correct in LR4 for the 24-85mm "kit" lens.
> Looking at this lens used ... and wondering if it has been so eclipsed by the newer 24-70mm 2.8 G that I would be unhappy in comparison.
The new lens is better, but not by a wide margin. Most folks I know who had the 28-70 when the 24-70 came out have not bothered to upgrade. It is a top-caliber lens, although the 24-70 is slightly "more top."
> it flashed "EE" and refused to work in still mode, unless I set it to f22.
That's what happens, although I suppose it's possible that video mode is different. I don't do video, so I have no idea. But certainly that is the default behavior for still. (You can usually set a custom setting so that you can control it with the aperture ring, if the lens has one. I don't remember where in the menus this is, though.)
> Does LR 4 have a lens correction profile for this lens?
Not by default. Check at Adobe's site - there are lots of profiles available.
> Female subjects seem to complain about 28mm "making my face look fat".
That's life at 28mm. I don't think that the lens correction addresses it. (Actually I know it doesn't, since this is perspective distortion, rather than barrel or pincushion distortion.)
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I am one of those who already had the 28-70 and decided not to move to the 24-70. I use it primarily for shooting people at gatherings and don't really need the 24mm end. For landscapes I acquired the 24-120 f/4.
I would have to say that the primary factor as to whether or not to 'upgrade' is how important having the 24mm end is to you. The image quality of the 28-70 is so excellent I do not think that is a factor.
Ed -- I have the 24-70, and I find myself out at the 24mm end fairly often, so it has served me well. I got the 24-70 not long after getting my first D700 -- never had the 28-70, although it sure stands well on its own merits. Look at how you shoot now, and if you don't find that you are bumping up against the 28mm end and wishing you had more wide angle left, I'd be inclined to buy the 28-70 if it is clean and well cared for -- and there is a substantial difference in price. BTW, I also have the 14-24 and use it, so I must tend to work down near the wide end fairly often.
BTW, even if your software doesn't offer specific lens corrections, most photo editing software does offer you the option of reducing distortion.
Thanks for the replies, and I shall try out the distortion control.
The consensus seems to be that the older lens i am looking at on several used sites is a very good one, and that the newer is a bit better in some way, and of course offers 4mm wider angle. Also the newer has a smaller appearance/presence with the hood attached.
So, here are my thoughts. I have the 24-85mm "kit lens", which I have been pretty happy with as a travel lens, though it is "slow". If I did not like this lens well enough for a landscape lens in good light, i would likely miss the 4mm, and have had to zoom with my feet on some waterfall shots, even at 24mm. Then I would save up for the extra $1000 USD for the 24-70mm 2.8G, which by all accounts is one of Nikon's best zooms. Evidently the 28-70mm 2.8 D AFS was as well, and still is. So far, I have been able to use my 50mm f1.4 G for dark interiors, though I can easily see how a 24mm f2.8 could be a help in that instance. The kit lens had been OK for this at higher ISOs,as Interiors seldom move.
I still have a question, and looking at the manual has not helped me yet (perhaps I've not found the right place). Lacking a lens with an aperture ring, I cannot play with things to find this out, so ----- Is there a way to configure the menu to allow me to use the aperture ring in video mode and change aperture while shooting? THAT would make me WANT THE OLDER lens.
>> Is there a way to configure the menu to allow me to use >the aperture ring in video mode and change aperture while >shooting? > >Look at custom setting F9 - specifically the sub-menus related >to aperture control. My D600 has an F9 in controls:Assign MB-D14 AE-L AF-L - but I do not see anything about aperture controls. Perhaps I am missing something.