Here's an example of what I said earlier about the new 70-200. I was out on our local river and had just set up the D800 for a static subject at ISO 100 and aperture priority at f/5.6. I was ready to frame my subject and shoot when this guy flew by overhead. I zoomed out to 200mm, raised the camera, put the center focus spot on the bird, pushed AF-ON as I tracked him, and shot. I think the key was the incredible VR in this lens. Doubt I'd have caught the bird in perfect focus with no camera motion with anything else. The 70-200 f/2.8 probably would have focused fast enough, but I doubt the VR would have held up like this.
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#1. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 0LMMiller9 Nikonian since 18th Dec 2005Fri 28-Dec-12 02:08 PM
Question: Why do you think the VR in this lens would do better than the VR in the 70-200/f2.8/VRII?
The reason I ask is that I have the latter lens and I am debating whether I should get the newer f4.0. Other than weight and lower cost, I am trying to figure out if there is any real photographic advantage.
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#2. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 1Fri 28-Dec-12 03:02 PM
As usual, it depends on what you intend to do with the lens. The f/4 has VR III, which, according to Nikon should give you another stop of vibration reduction. My own informal tests tell me the VR in the new 70-200 is better than that in my VR II lenses, though I can't vouch for a one-stop improvement. That kind of claim is advertising. Too much depends on your own steadiness.
But to me the difference is in the weight. I can put the f/4 on my D800 or my D3, and carry it around without having my shoulder collapse, and I can put the combo on a tripod without having to bother with a tripod collar. Beyond that, you might want to check Nasim Mansurav's site. He's made some interesting comparisons between the two lenses, though he's still working on his full review. The only things I do that call for an aperture less than f/4 are street photography, which I normally do with a 50mm f/1.4, and an occasional portrait, which I do with an 85mm f/1.8. I often shoot plays during final dress rehearsal with a 70-200. With the D3 or D800 I simply don't need f/2.8 to do that.
But if you already have the f/2.8 and you don't carry it around, why bother with another lens.
#3. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 0
>I think the key was the incredible VR in this lens.
Since the shot was taken at a shutter speed of 1/1000th, I'm not sure VR was the key factor in this case. I've not used this latest generation of VR yet, but earlier implementations provided little or no benefit at speeds as fast as that.
#4. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 3Fri 28-Dec-12 03:22 PM
It's a good point Brian. But I wish you'd seen the motions that were involved. This was an illustration of the term "snapshot." In any case, there's no question that the VR in this lens is better than its predecessors.
By the way, you seem to feel that the D800 forum is for talk about bodies only. Evidently the combination of the body (useless by itself) with lenses and other paraphernalia that allow the body to do something worthwhile is off limits.
#5. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 4briantilley Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003Fri 28-Dec-12 04:00 PM
>By the way, you seem to feel that the D800 forum is for talk
>about bodies only.
Well, yes - that's what our camera-related Forums are intended for.
It's why we have dedicated Forums like this one to cover other items of equipment. Your main point is the efficacy of the new generation of VR - by moving the thread here, it will be able to attract comments from all owners of the new 70-200mm f/4, not just those who have a D800
#6. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 5JonK Nikonian since 03rd Jul 2004Fri 28-Dec-12 04:15 PM
Actually, we should probably delete this thread as neither the new lens nor VRIII had anything to do with capturing the shot…
I chalk it up to Russ' skill!
Seriously, based on initial reviews and images posted, I'll buy this lens in the spring and relegate my f/2.8 beast to low light (mostly theatre) shooting.
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#7. "RE: D800 & New 70-200mm f/4" | In response to Reply # 5Fri 28-Dec-12 10:38 PM | edited Fri 28-Dec-12 10:41 PM by FineArtSnaps
I take your point, Brian, but I still think it's a mistake to move this kind of thing away from the D800 forum. Point is that the D800/E, more than any other 35mm format camera is sensitive to the lens you put on it. A crappy lens will show itself right away on this body, and a so-so lens will too. There aren't a whole lot of lenses out there that will let the D800 demonstrate its full potential. This is one of them -- not mentioned in Nikon's technical manual because it wasn't available when the manual was written. I'm sure it's great on the D4, D600, etc., etc., just as it is on my D3, but so are a bunch of other lenses. This one is a perfect match for the D800/E.
And you at least imply that only bodies are important in "camera related forums." Actually a body isn't a camera. It's only a body. It needs a lens before it becomes a camera.