One further thought (something I should have mentioned originally) regarding the choice between an F4 and N90s. I tend to shoot in the backcountry on extended trips, so durability and reliability (and weight) are factors. How do the two match-up? It seems that F4 would win on those counts. Currently, I also shoot a lot of black and white.
#1. "RE: N90s/F4 Redux" | In response to Reply # 0f5fstop Basic MemberFri 23-Jun-00 06:26 PM
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The N90s is lighter than the F4s. Not sure of exact differences in weight between the two camera bodies, but the F4s is metal construction; whereas, the N90s is polycarbonate. The weight of the N90s will increase if the MB-10 grip is attached. The MF-26 does not add that much weight to the camera body.
As for the durability of the two, I would vote for the F4s, since the construction is similar to the F5/F100 and it is rated as a pro-camera. (Before anyone says anything, I fully understand that the N90s is also rated as a pro-camera, and although it is a great camera, its construction is not that of an F-series, Nikon pro-camera.) Therefore, the F4s should be able to withstand more punishment than the N90s.
There are some bags you can purchase for backcountry travel that will help protect the camera and lenses. I use the LowePro Off Trail 2. It comes with a well-padded camera pouch that will hold a Nikon F5 with the 80-200mm F/2.8 lens attached. It also has two cylindrical pouches that can hold more lenses, water bottles, film, etc. The camera pouch and two cylindrical pouches come with a belt and shoulder belt to help distribute the weight for backpacking. Cost was only about $70.00-$80.00 from NY.
Hope this helped and good luck.
"Take only photographs, leave only footprints"
#2. "RE: N90s/F4 Redux" | In response to Reply # 1Adesso Basic MemberMon 26-Jun-00 10:10 PM
Other things to consider while trekking in the great outdoors is weather. The F4 has better weather seals than the N90. Not to mention that it is also much more tolorate of temperature. The N90 is a great camera, but I believe Nikon could have built it to be a much better camera. The F4 is still an awesome workhorse designed to be put to the test on a daily basis. My F4E has been to hell and back with me, and has never had any problems getting the job done. On the other hand, I've known others with N90s' than can say the same. But, a co-worker of mine had a N90s in her backpack and dropped it about five inches from the ground on concrete. The body was cracked and would not perform TTL functions with her flash any more. She must have hit it in just the right spot in order to do that much damage, but the fact remains that the damage was done. In my honest opinion, if you want something that you can use and abuse and not worry about it, get an F5, F100, or an F4. Just my opinion.
"Film is Cheap, Images are Priceless."
#6. "RE: N90s/F4 Redux" | In response to Reply # 5f5fstop Basic MemberSat 08-Jul-00 10:19 AM
It may be that it is early in the AM here, and my infusion of coffee is not at the level it should be, but I don't understand. I read and re-read my message and there is no "shot" at anyone that I can see. If you believe there is one, please let me assure you I didn't intend to offend anyone, especially you, Tony.
"Take only photographs, leave only footprints"
#3. "N90s/F4s" | In response to Reply # 0
i had a F4s and a N90s(F90X) for many years. The F4s is a great camera if you don't want a good AF. It's reliable and works always - if you have batteries. For backpacking i would recommend a normal battery pack for saving weight. I don't think you need extra speed for the motor drive.
The N90s is better in AF (i even think the switch between wide and narrow AF window is a better idea than more AF fields without connection to each other like in the F100 and F5). But the camera has some noise problems. It's terribly loud!
So you better go for a F4 or a F100.
#4. "RE: N90s/F4s" | In response to Reply # 3
I've had an F90 (yes the original with no seals, not the X) for 7 years now and I specialise in Caving photography. Now I use a Nikonos V for the really wet stuff and cave diving, but my old 90 has survived, damp, condensation, dust, grit, splashes, drops, bangs and crashes with no faults whatsoever in this time. I have eroded all the rubber covering off the MF-26 databack and smashed the Viewfinder eye ring off completely twice in this time. Fitted with Lithiums the F90 is very light and it and and several SB-28/SU-4 fit in a padded bag easily. It will be more than durable for your needs and outperforms the F4 in almost every aspect.
Have fun, both choices will work well