Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?
I had F/N90x and the last year i bought an F5 and it's software Photo Secretary. With 90x was easy to programming an AF beep sound using software but i didn't found such a function on F5. Does anybody knows if there is a (hidden ??) function to enable that ?
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#1. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 0f5fstop Basic MemberMon 20-Nov-00 09:09 PM
I have never heard of any setting that would make the F5 beep. I would guess if it is not part of photo secretary, and it's not in the custom functions, it cannot be done, and most likely, there is no component do sound the "beep."
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#2. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 0
I too upgraded from an F90 to an F5 and I miss my beep beep. I dont know why Nikon removed it on the F90X. It was very subtle, but you soon subconciously learnt not to push the shutter release all the way until you heard it. I find with action shots I'm now hitting the release and waiting for the thing to fire in focus
Also I do a lot of Zoo photo's and the beep was great, the animals used to hear it a look up (It never scared them they were just curious), now I find myself making stupid sounds to get their attention.
There you go Nikon, a suggestion for the D2, a beeper (must be user selectable on or off)
#3. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 2Boogaloo Basic MemberTue 21-Nov-00 12:52 PM
>I dont know why Nikon removed
>it on the F90X. It
>was very subtle, ...
Although F90x/N90s does not let the user select whether or not to sound a beep via the on/off switch, one can still turn it on via the photo secratary software. I own both an N90s and an F5 and have the photosecratry software for both. I do not remember if the beep can be turned on in the F5 via the secratary software or not, but I think it can be.
I keep the beep turned off on both cameras because, for me, the less intrusive I can be in some situations that I'm taking pictures in, the better.
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#4. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 3
#5. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 4Newsphotog Basic MemberThu 23-Nov-00 03:31 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and will probably take flak for it. But here goes....
I'd like to know from the owners of F5's why you need a beep to tell you what is in focus?!
The F5 is a professional camera with professional features to used by professionals with professional capabilities. Have I stressed my point here? Professionals don't need a "beep" to tell them when something is in focus so they didn't add the feature!
I seriously doubt that they will bother with it in the future.
This is one of the reasons that the industry(and Nikon) has hesitated to to call the F90X a Pro camera. It included features like the Vari-programs and "beep" for lesser experienced photographers. If you have an F5 and require an audible tone to tell you when something is in focus, perhaps you might be in over your head when it comes to your choice of models.
I can't speak for all models of Nikon cameras, but the F90X and F100 have the in focus indicator in the viewfinder to tell you when you have acheived proper focus. I don't think Nikon will be convinced that they should add it to Pro models because you have to make silly sounds to attract animals' attention in a zoo!Please!
A skilled photographer has practiced, shot a ton of film to be able to know when an image is in focus. Perhaps adjusting the diopter on your $3000 camera will help....don't expect it to tell you everything when you want to do it manually. That's why the powers that be invented AUTOFOCUS.
#6. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 5jrp Charter MemberFri 24-Nov-00 03:01 AM
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#7. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 5
I AM a semi professional photographer (ex professional) and I do like the beep. I have been at this game for over 23 years so I belive I have the skills and knowledge to decide how I like to use a camera. Oh, and I accasionally use P mode and I have used vari mode as well. Should I give the money back to the clients as I cant be a proper photographer
These "amatuer" features are useful in several situations
1) In Zoo's where it attracts the animals attention and makes them look up,giving nice portraits
2) I specialise in Caving photography, where I have a large helmet on (With a lamp that hits the camera) and due to the nature of the environment cannot often get my face to the viewfinder. The beep tells me if I have achieved focus so I can concentrate on timing or if I need to swap to manual focus (I've got good at framing a shot by guesswork!!)
3) When using the camera normally in A mode, I have plenty to look at checking the framing and exposure values. Having one of the controls taken care of by my ears (which are probably not doing anything at the time) removes one thing from my eyes task list.
So in short some of us DO LIKE the beeper, and some don't. Thats why I said it should be included but with a switch to turn it off. Just because YOU wouldn't use it shouldnt mean nobody has the option. After all, 80% of F5 owners dont use the mirror lockup function. Should Nikon remove that from the F6. On a top of the range camera, any option that may be useful should be included, you dont have to use it if you dont want to.
I also like the beeper for end of film and ERR conditions. When your laying upside down with the camera on the other end of a pole up a small aven (trying to see if its worth widening the entrance to explore) using a cable release, a viewfinder warning is useless. Beeps gives you the feedback you need. I also like the timer with a double shot option of the F90.
On the same note, I will never buy an F100 for caving as it has no eyepice blind that will work (a big omission IMHO) but I bought one for my SO who loves it. I never upgraded to an F90X as the beep was more improtant to me than the extra weatherproofing and speed. (didnt have software to change it then)
Anyway, just cos the F5 is a "Professional" camera, why cant amatuers use it. And what is wrong with using ANY feature that gets the shot you want. On the oposite argument, just becoause a camera isn't sold as a pro camera, why cant a Pro use it. You seem to have a bee in your bonnet as to being seen to be a pro, Its not that great. I dont care what the camera I use is called as long as I can get the shots I want. I find the beep useful, I find the weight of the F5 and its armour plating useful. I'd like the two to be combined.
#8. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 7Newsphotog Basic MemberFri 24-Nov-00 01:55 PM
You have to take these postings as opinion. Simple. You disagree with my opinion. Great. You have a use for the "beep". Most "Pro" photographers don't. As well, if Nikon added every feature to every new camera as requested, we'd be up against the most complicated, under-used 35mm SLR the world has ever seen!
Forget 21 custom options, try 75 to 100 options to choose from. Beeps for this, honks for that...whistles to know when your at the end of a roll, red lights and sirens to know when your batteries are low.....etc
Did you know as a semi-professional that the markings on your lens are also for manually focusing? There's the feet and sometimes metres listed on your lens. There's also infinity for sure focus when you can't pinpoint a distance. There are also settings on these systems to not release the shutter until the frame is in focus. Press the shutter, nothing happens until the frame is focused.......click...there's your picture, in focus without a beep.
this could go on like the manual vs. new string.
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#9. "RE: Does F5 have an AF confirmation beep like 90x ?" | In response to Reply # 8
Yep, we are all on the same side. I wondered about all those white lines on the lens, couldn't find a use for them 8-) and they filled up with mud years ago.
Seriously, I've found the F5 harder to focus in low light than the F90. I think the F90's wide area focus is actually more sensitive (or the bigger area more suitable for my aiming techiniques!). But both seem to focus quite well on a mud covered caver in a mud covered hole by the light of a caplamp. I only tend to use manual focus when I cant get a lock. I have both focus modes set to Focus priority.
I agree about not having many to many options settable on the camera (bad user interface, Nikon go and look at a Minolta)But would like to see them under software control, where we can use a much larger and tidier interface. I can see nothing wrong with over 100 user options being selectable this way, and being under software control should be easier and cheaper to impliment that buttons on a camera body. (After all Windows must have thousands of user settable parameters).