I have an F4 that is a sweetie, but it came to me without an eyecup/eyepiece. So I am left with some choices, looking at the items available through Boca Photo and KEH. There are 46mm wide eyecups, with and without eyepiece glass, DK-17 Nikon replacements, and many other variants. I am having a hard time determining what to get. My F4 has NOTHING attached to the eyepiece, just a threaded metal lip that is integral with the DP-20 finder, and I can touch the red shutter when it is closed.
I think I'd prefer to get two items. First, the original rubber-covered narrow-rim screw in fitting (which I believe is the DK-17), and then also one of the wide variety (some of which appear to fit over/screw into the DK-17 some directly to the DP-20, some with glass, some not). As for the DK-2 listed in the F4 manual (available now on KEH) I am unsure if it attaches directly to the DP-20, or whether another fitting is required between them.
I'd appreciate others' experiences and recommendations. Also, alternative sources for these parts (since much of Boca's inventory seems to be on backorder most of the time, even the darn little strap rings with plastic protectors! Likewise KEH, which is sort of catch as catch can)? Thanks.
#2. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 0Kilted_F3_nut Nikonian since 29th Jun 2004Mon 18-Feb-13 04:29 AM
Will, you'll need both the DK-17 and the DK-19. Kenmore Camera has both items in stock. The DK-19 fits over the DK-17 eyepiece, after removal of the rubber ring on the DK-17, just like how the DK-2 fits over the original F3HP/F4 eyepiece.
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#8. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 2Fri 01-Mar-13 12:50 PM
I went ahead an ordered a bunch of stuff from Precision Photo. DK-17, DK-19, another part that is aftermarket and appears to be essentially a cheaper ($8) combination of the DK-17 with a 46mm diameter rubber eyecup. Lots of other little tchotchkes also, for F4, D7000, et alia, ad infinitum, ad salis carborundum ('til I am broke).
Precision seems to be the only web-vendor of this narrow product line, and their prices are fair, so I won't complain, except to wonder why Nikon triangular strap rings are never available (or anywhere else)! I will have to make due with temporary solutions, since I won't pay Nikon USA $12.95 to ship two of the little buggers (with a total weight of less than 5g, and a total volume of less than 2cc!).
Having fun with the terrific extensibility and interchangeability of F4 parts and options, and will probably try the DK-17M, and a right-angle VF attachment soon. Whoever put me on to Precision Photo, thank you once again!
#4. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 0
A grizzly actually chewed off my DK-2 eyecup and the rubber ring from my F4. When I recently got the DK-17M/DK-19 combo for my D3, I just transferred the original eyepiece(DK-17, I guess) from the D3 to the F4. Perfect fit.
If you don't wear glasses, also do consider the magnifying eyepiece DK-17M for the F4. I enjoy it a lot on the D3, it lets me get the bigger picture.
#5. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 4Mon 18-Feb-13 05:11 PM
Thanks! I am actually going to try a few things, since none of these items singly will set me back more than about $25US, at the most.
My very first camera (except the 126 Instamatic I received for my 9th birthday) was a Minolta SRT-101, ca. 1976, and it had one of those over-sized rubber eyecups. I got used to the light-tight seal those afford, so much so that all these years later I frequently find myself putting a thumb up to the outside side of the eyepiece when using a camera with a smaller eyecup. I have never used a magnified eyepiece, though with MF on the F4 with an 'E' screen (what I have now, that and the 'B'), I can see how it could be a real aid. Extraneous light, for me, is very distracting and makes focus and even composition more difficult.
So I'll pick up a DK-17 this week, and probably the item Precision Photo calls an EC-4 (like the DK-17, but with larger eyecup, and the glass is not specified as multicoated, as it is with the DK-17).
#6. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 4Mon 18-Feb-13 05:14 PM
That's a new definition of the term "wildlife photographer"! Sort of like the old Groucho Marx joke: "what was the bear taking photographs of?"
Lucky it was only the eyepiece, and not the whole camera (or you!).
#7. "RE: F4 eyepiece & eyecup variants?" | In response to Reply # 6NorwayKim Registered since 09th Nov 2012Mon 18-Feb-13 05:51 PM
I had left the F4 on a tripod in 'focus trap' mode, in order to do its magic without my help. When I returned, the camera was on the ground - mostly undamaged, but without the eyecup and a few tooth marks on the prism.
The tripod however, had become a 'duopod': one leg was missing. I later found that in the river. I MacGyvered it together, and still use it for heavy lenses. But it's full of bite marks and that one leg still doesn't collapse all the way.
I'm going back to the same place (in the Yukon) this summer. I will perhaps bring the F4 for yet another adventure, as a near indestructible backup with a nifty 'freeze focus' function (with the MF-23 data back). Also, I can afford it if a bear crunches my F4, but not my digital prime camera. And should the diesel generator fail, all things digital will die with it. While the F4 will still chug along with its lithiums and its films.