Last Friday, I've receive from a pro friend a D3 to try for 7 days as he has no use for that time. A fantastic opportunity
I'm right now very satisfied (ecstatic I should say) by my trials and from D3 capacities, especially in high ISO / low light environment. It's also my first real daily use of a DLSR... Full-frame at last. On Friday too, I've the opportunity to test extensively for 1 hour a D700 during a Nikon exhibition in one of my favourite reseller.
With those first 2 days trials of the D3, I'm a bit confused in the way that I was not trilled by my D700 experience, it came out that I do not like the camera handling. I prefer much more the D3. Only one think I'm not yet accustomed to (apart from its price) is the D3's weight!
Coming from the F6, with the D3 I feel nearly like at home. Even if I miss some features: anti-dust, real "full" E-type view screen across viewfinder, shutter sound, possible "lightness" without the grip (I found the D700 pretty heavy alone)... And found to have a lot of AF sensors to work with .
The D700, for me do not add a lot, apart for lightness (in weight and price) out of the D3 and anti-dust. It is missing important features for me: 100% viewer, the grip is not feeling right in my (large) hands for me, the F6 and D3 do, so the external grip must be add to get more comfort, AF responsiveness is a bit less than the D3 and F6 with the same lenses...
So for those using a F6, and other F users (of course ), what do you think of the D700 (and D3)?
Tue 12-Aug-08 02:27 AM | edited Mon 25-Jun-12 07:11 PM by Kilted_F3_nut
Haven't tried the D700 out yet, but the times I've held the D3, it has actually made me grin, due to the fact that it's actually a fairly decent camera. Still feels a little light, compared to my F-series bodies, but about the same as my 8008 and FM2n bodies... The D2 series always felt like my old EM, weight-wise.
I only have a few moments, but the AF systems are improved in both cameras, I find them slightly better ergonomically, my older Nikkors have the angle of view I prefer (compared with older DSLRs), and most importantly, the image quality is superb over a huge range of ISO's. The freedom to shoot at a vast range of ISO's without degradation results in a great deal of photographic freedom. It's when you see those images on a consistent basis that have great detail, color and an absence of noise that you'll really be hooked. I'd prefer a 100% viewfinder in the D700, but it's not that big of deal.
Tue 12-Aug-08 10:45 AM | edited Tue 12-Aug-08 10:50 AM by Horus
Thanks for your time and answer Rick.
About the D700's viewer, it will remember my former F80
I've seen the results produced by the D3 from friends and my trails so far, in effect there are astonishing! I suppose the D700 behave exactly the same as the D3 on that ground, from your experience?
Last question about AF and power issue, I'm a bit unsure about the internal battery reuse of the D300 for the D700. I feel like the F6 with the CR123... From my very short experience, the D3 is already asking a lot out of the EN-L4a...
Tue 12-Aug-08 11:11 AM | edited Tue 12-Aug-08 11:12 AM by walkerr
The image quality of the D700 is identical to the D3 - superb. Don't worry about the battery. It lasts quite a while; it's not even close to the issue the F6 had with CR123's. As with any of these cameras, it's a good practice to have a spare battery.
I've got one general question (sorry about this as it is perhaps a stupid one as I'm not very much accustomed): I found that the sensor of the D3 is much more sensitive than a film. I've put a Pro 800Z on my F6 and found that with the same lens, same light environment (speed / aperture) and same measurement (3D Color matrix metering), the D3 was reading a lot less on ISO (circa 350 ISO !). I check on another film body same result as my F6 (that was more precise)... This is even more "visible" in night scenes... Is this a constant of digital, or the D3?
A friend of my having both a F3 and a D3 have done some tests of his. With everything off (Active D-Lighting off, exposure correction, etc...) on a uniform wall with same light condition and same lens, all 3 kind of measurement form his D3 give always 1 IL more than his F3... He his quite surprised too...
Just tried the D700... Great camera but not an F6 replacement option. D3 tried it. It is an amazing photo machine. but to big to carry on long hours assignment...Get me a small and serious digital camera and i will switch...D700 with no pop-up flash. and a 100% viewfinder. with D3 capabilities...My ideal world!
I have used a F6 for a few years. I loved it. I sold it when I went all digital, and regretted it instantly. Now, I have the D3 for the studio and the D700 to go out. They complement each other beautifully, but neither was meant to be a replacement for the F6. My ideal world will get another F6 for those b&w film craves I still have. Digital is great in color, but it can't beat b&w film.
>Thanks Hamman for your input and experience. I've already >sold a DC lens that I bougt again 1 year after as I miss it >too much. So even some friend tell me to sell my F6, I will >never do it! > >Photography is a joy, happy shooting
No, don't sell the F6. It's a fabulous camera, and it is getting rare. Luckily, I still have this great Rolleiflex 2.8F, and this one I will never sell. And the little FM2n is still going strong.
>No, don't sell the F6 Be reassure my F6 is still under warranty for a couple of months, and I wanted so badly a F body that I will never sell my F6. After using a D3 for a week and having now from a friend a D2H, the F6 is tremendous camera and quite. And even if the same friend tell me that I will put it on a shell, when I will buy a digital camera, I will certainly at least use my F6 when I go out alone in woods!
>So for those using a F6, and other F users (of course ), >what do you think of the D700 (and D3)?
I have both and use both I have a F6 that I still shoot black and white and slide film with when I have time and for work (weddings and portraits) I use the D3. The D3 is a fantastic camera I picked it up for its ability to shoot full frame and its high iso range. I didn't look at the D700 because it wasn't out when I picked up the D3 so I cant comment on that camera. I will never part with my F6 now I might give my N90 to my kids but again I will never part with that camera not matter what i am doing as long as they make film I will still use it. they each have a place the D3 is great at what it does and the F6 is still great at what it does
Now I grab for a year a D2H (see my story in the French Café about it if you wish), indeed my F6 and D2H have each their own purpose. Therefore with a future D3 or D3X/D4 (who knows) it will be the same.
By my usage of a D3 and now more extensively of a D2H, I don't think I will go to a D700 and stick to a D one number body...