After two months of having bought the D80 I went back to my beloved N80 bought in Dec 2001 and surprised because all the body (the rubber covering it) was sticky in all the surface... I know and heard this is the first step of rubber to perish... then the next step is to crumble in small pieces Have someone of you expirienced the same with N80 or other similar Nikon body? If yes, any remedy / recipe to stop it? I have it well storaged in a Lowepro Nova 4 bag with two or three packs of silica gel to prevent moisture although the bag is also storaged in a dry place.- All my lenses are ok, no moisture problems.... Many thanks in advance for your feedback
I've had my both my N80s for nearly 4 years now and no deterioration.
Several things could be a factor with your issue:
1. Environment. Not just how you store them but where you store them. Has your camera bag been indoors all this time? Is your climate such that extra moisture could be in the air?
2. You own body composition could have added to this decay. You could have a higher level of acid in you that transfers to the camera and begins to deteriorate it over time. My father has some pretty bad acid levels in his body oil - when he touches metals, he has to be careful or he'll leave a permanent finger print.
3. A combination of both these could have contributed.
Unfortunately, I have no information on how to stop it. Sorry. But maybe I've touched on something for you to consider in keeping your D80 in good condition..
Keep it clean and in good shape.
Good Luck – I hope someone has some good information for you.
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Just to help finding the solution and provide as much info as possible, let me answer your points:
1) Environment: All my photo equipment including bags have been stored in a dry place, for sure it is not a problem of moisture.-
2) My own body compositions, it could be... cannot confirm, yes I do know cases as the one you mentioned, for example people with whom the silver jewelry turn black... I believe this is not my case, my skin has a dry tendency... and if this was the case I guess all the rubber parts of my lenses or at least some of them should be experiencing a similar situation but they are in perfect conditions, I have been using photo equipment since 1980 and never happened something like this.- I have all my equipment like new, I have never used any kind of solvent to clean it.
Only one correction to my post my N80 was bought in Dec 2000.-
I am afraid this is specifically the life of the rubber used to cover the body, let's see how many N80 users or other similar Nikon Bodies aging more than 6 years are facing the same problem... I refuse to buy a used body when mine works perfect after hundreds of rolls except for this problem...
Dave thanks again for your interest and let's see if someone else at Nikonians is facing the same problem and found a solution.
Hi Alex I think I remember reading somewhere that if you use a insect repelent containing DEET that the residues left on your hands can have a chemical reaction with the polycarbonate used in the bodies of cameras.May or may not be the case,just a thought. Neal G.
Many thanks Neal and George for your posts and interest! No I have never used deet and any kind of solutions, solvents etc. Just fyi, I sent my inquiry to Nikon USA tech support and they told me they never had problems with the rubber of N80... although I had mentioned / linked this forum so they can see I was not the only one with this problem... and they recommended me to send it to service center for evaluation.
IMHO, this seems to be the life of the rubber because as said here in aprox 6-7 years begins the stickiness problem... I am trying to find somebody who knows chemestry or similar, to recommend a solution to restore rubber...
Also to prevent my D80, which I am sure they have the same kind of rubber, and maybe in six-seven years become sticky too.... yes I know... the D80 will be obsolete in six yeasrs or less but I cannot change my equipment so ofen and D80 is 3 times more expensive than the N80
What do you think about using the silicones in spray used to clean the plastics, instrument panel of the cars, leather, etc... obviously using very few with a cleaning cloth and not directly to the camera...?
Hope to find a solution since this problem is driving me mad, my camera looks like new, works perfectly but sticky...
I doubt it. My N80 is over 6 years old and it has developed the sticky rubber. It is not terrible, just feels a little odd. It is not like it has something sticky on it that gets on your hands, it just feels tacky. It does collect a little dust at times.
Thanks Chirotk and George for your feedback. Yes George exactly the same like my N80, feels tacky and all the dust sticked on the body's rubber and very difficult to clean. No leaked at all from silica gel bags. Has anybody received any feedback from Nikon about this problem? As informed before I did not, they told me they have never heard about it and if I wanted to I could send it to them to check. Thank you all again!
I've had my N80 about 7 years, and it's always had a slightly tacky feel, which I've always liked. But I don't think the material is rubber, just some kind of plastic. I haven't noticed any difference in it over the years.
This is an excellent question, as I have wondered about the surfaces of my N80. I agree that they are probably not rubber, but seem to be some type of rubber-like material. I have had my N80 for about a month now, and I have had no problems with sticky surfaces. Actually, my N80 is at least somewhat older, as I bought it NOS...who knows how long it had been sitting around?
I, too, am concerned about the body surfaces becoming sticky and/or wearing. Have any of you noticed any color variations on the rubberized surfaces? I am not sure if it is the nature of the rubber-like material, or perhaps the way the light hits the back of the camera, but I sometimes think the black color is ever so slightly lighter in a couple of areas.
I've carried my F80 since Nikonians was relatively new. I no longer remember the number of years involved, nor want to. It's a bit smudged but still in perfect shape. This regardless that Ive carried it just about everywhere I went.
I purchased an N80 recently and the first thing I noticed was the tacky feel of the body material - not comfortable at all. One responder mentioned he fixed it with numerous cotes of alcohol, without rubbing. I first tried alcohol, but I rubbed and it erases some of the material. I may try to ask Nikon directly. I think this applies to most all N80 and related products over 6 of 7 years old. I live in Florida and that may add to the problem. I have collected cameras for years and I recall this same condition in a few other cameras.
Wed 10-Mar-10 06:09 AM | edited Wed 10-Mar-10 06:16 AM by avm247
Unfortunately, the rubber backs on some Nikon bodies seems to degrade over time, I do not know what causes this unfortunately and there really doesn't seem to be a solution other than replacing the back. I'll try and search and see what I can come up with, but unfortunately, I don't have as much time to spend here as I once had.
Edited to add: I have seen on the interweb that Mother's Back-to_Black or even Armor All protectant can be used but all care to clean off any excess residue should taken.
Thanks for all for the info. provided- will consider using a silicone based solution like Armourall to reduce the sticky feel. Will let you know how it goes after a period of tim I don't think Nikon will be too concerned about a fix on older cameras. Wayne
I just got out my N80 to check the body; I haven't been shooting my cameras lately. It seems to be fine. However, I think I remember someone having problems with the body of their N90 getting sticky. You might post again asking folks with N90 and N90s bodies to speak to the issue.
Let us know if the powers that be come up with a solution for you.
I have had exactly the same problem with my N90s which I bought over 12 years ago brand new. I have not used the camera in a couple of years since I went digital. Same problem I had with the N70. It appears Nikon uses or used an unstable rubber type material to coat their camera bodies in the 90's... maybe even NOW! I hope I don't end up with a similar problem with my D700!! If I were planning on keeping either of those cameras I would replace the foam lining in my hard case (not Pelican, but similar) with dividers. I'm selling all my film equipment and my Beseler 23CIII XL enlarger with dichro head, Nikkor enlarger lenses etc. I hope there's something I can use to clean off the stickiness on my N90s and N70.
Sat 18-Sep-10 09:24 PM | edited Sat 18-Sep-10 09:27 PM by ZoneV
No, the entire back is just sort of marked up from sliding it in and out of the bag, and also a tiny bit sticky lately, compared to when it was new ten years ago. There are also some hairline cracks in the plastic of the prism region, too. So far nothing has broken off or peeled.
In 1993 my N-90 developed the dreaded peeling rubber syndrome. A check on this web site showed it was a manufacturing defect that Nikon was aware of and a call to Nikon service got me a new back (overnite) The new back is still just like it was the day I received it. It maybe worth a call to Nikon to see if they are still replacing the defective backs. All they required was the serial number of the camera.
I once complained about this same issue a couple of years ago. I believe this is simply due to the chemical composition of the rubber polymer on the F80/N80. It degrades over time and this is exacerbated by poor storage techniques, humidity as well as body chemical composition.
You might be able to send it to Nikon USA for the rubber to be replaced, but I doubt that they would still have the spare parts available.
As seen in this forum, we must conclude the sticky/tacky surface problem on Nikon bodies does exist.
I would like to add that this problem is not on the back only, the rest of the body, the grip, the front and wherever the rubber or rubber like is placed is sticky too, so difficult to replace for Nikon.
As far as Nikon is concerned, no news from them about this issue...? Does anyone closer to Nikon can approach them more directly to have any feedback?
It is very uncomfortable to use the camera with this feel and all the dust sticking on it.
On the other hand, and as already recommended in this forum, has anyone tried with alcohol? Obviously only on the rubber surface since it will erase anything written and will damage plastic surface... If yes, which were the results?
Needless to say that all the equipment is storaged in dry palce, this is not a matter of humidity, as somebody said before it is with the material used by Nikon maybe with a wrong chemical formula...
And the most important, as said above by nikonian MstrBones, what will happen when our newer and more expensive bodies, like the D series faces the same problem?
As a final comment, I would like to find a solution to prevent this before the problem arise on our newer bodies. It is a Nikon must have to find this "formula" to their loyal users and in some way palliate their mistake.
Any comment / recommendation will be highly appreciated!