My wife keeps asking "Why would you ever want to?" Wellll...just beacause...
I have been looking at film bodies, and have settled pretty much on the N 65, 75, or N80, which I think will work with all my lenses , except the 18-55 that came with the D50. 50f/1.8af, 28-105af, 70-210af, and Tokina 400 ais.
I like compact cameras; my priors were Pentaxes, the FM, and N6006, once I got smart, and I love the size of my D50.
Any suggestions as to what I should consider? Thanks.
That old black NIkon has me in its spell; That old black Nikon that shoots so well...
My recommendation is for the N80. Great camera, fully compatible with AF lenses (AF, AF-I and AF-S); D/G series and Vibration Reduction lenses. None of the bodies you mentioned will meter with MF (AI, AI-S) lenses - there is no mechanical linkage to tell the camera what apertures are available. Of course DX lenses are not compatible - the image circle is too small.
The N80 offers Manual, Shutter Priority, Aperture Priority and Program modes, there are five AF selectors; Matrix, Center and Spot metering. The viewfinder is a bit dim but it does have on demand grid lines (great for composition and aligning horizontals and verticals). It also incorporates a glass prism, not a pentamirror. It also uses a relatively inexpensive remote release (AR-4).
I liked the MB-16 when I had mine, it allowed the use of AA batteries, but did add to the size of the camera, without providing a vertical shutter release or other controls; just the battery pack.
For a bit more, the F100 is larger, heavier, has a brighter viewfinder, better AF and slightly bettering metering and the ability to meter with AI and AI-S MF lenses.
The N80 is a nice camera, especially with the MB-16 attached because it makes it more comfortable to hold. Since you previously owned an N6006, I would not even consider the N65 or N75. They were not, in my opinion, better than the N6006 even though their AF is a little faster.
Hi, Here's my two cents worth.I've had all the bodies you mentioned, the only one I still have is the F100. The F100 is simply better than the other bodies in every way. Yes, it is bigger and heavier than the N80, but, it is built much better, functions much better, and is a bargain in today's market. BLT
My recommendation is also the N80. I have run many rolls of film through it, B&W and slide/print film. It has a lot of capabilities that the others have posted and for traveling it's nice and light. It has an outstanding set of custom settings too. I've never had an F100 although I have heard a lot of cool things about it. You probably couldn't go wrong with either one but for portability and a lot of fun I like my N80. I just put a fresh roll of Neopan 400 B&W in it. Well, fresh may not be the word since I bought it at my local camera store at a reduced price because the "expiration date" had been reached. So it's not so fresh but it IS fresh out of my freezer and into the body. I tried my new Nikkor 70-200 VR just for fun without any film in it to see how it focuses, etc., wow, VERY smooth!!
Best of luck in your decision, you can't really go wrong!
I have the same urge every so often. I see a used Nikon film body on the online classifieds and think, I should buy that but then I presume I'd never use it and know it's cash I could use towards something for my digital habit . Also consider speedlight usage, etc.
--Trying something and not succeeding is a lot better than waiting to fail: the realization of a chronic procrastinator.--
if you want to get in problem with your wife.. when she asks that dreaded "why in the world would you...", just look at here square in the eyes and tell her "because for me these are like shoes to you" please be advised, the tone is of the uttmost importance as you don´t need more than the plain, simple and pure answe to make your life a living nightmare for a while!!! but then again, maybe your wife is like mine, she has some sense of humor and as soon as I say that, she dissapears to the neares shoe store to take full and complete revenge of my statements!!!!
I have a nephew who is crazy about photography. When I visit I take him out shooting with a D40. He's now 14 years old and ready to save for his own camera.
his mother won't let him have a digital camera. So he needs a Newbie Film Camera.
I know n-o-t-h-i-n-g about film cameras, or film photography, so I'm not in a position to help him. His school doesn't offer photography. He'll have to do it all on his own.
He's not all that big, might max out as a 5'8" (172 cm?) grown man, isn't all that far into his growth spurt. So a big heavy camera is not the way to go. Neither is a big expensive camera because he's got to pay for the whole kit himself.
He knows how to manual focus with the D40 using the focus confirmation dot, so if MF film cameras come with such a dot (do they???) then in principle a MF film body would work as well. However, it would be nice if it worked with my lenses, which are all AF-D or AF-S. That way we can still share when I visit. I don't know how well MF cameras work with AF-D or AF-S lenses.
Sooo, which camera?
I've done some research and come up with the N75 as what I thought would be the best starter camera for him. In this thread however I see the N80 being praised to high heaven. Could you explain why the N80 and not the N75?
And there's a N6006 on sale in the For Sale forum. Why the did none of the other responders suggest going out and buying one of those?
— LaDonna, visiting from the Digital forums
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The N75 has slightly more metering segments than the N80 (25 vs 10). The N80 has a slightly faster max shutter (1/4000 vs. 1/2000) The N80 has slightly faster max frame advance. The N80 allows for Manual and Auto ISO for film; Auto ISO only in N75 The N75 has some special program modes; the N80 does not have them. The N80 has a slightly faster max flash sync: 1/125 vs 1/90 (typically you will end up with 1/60s unless you are in bright light). The N80 uses CR123A batteries; the N75 uses CR2 batteries. The N80 has ondemand grid lines; the N75 does not. The N80 uses the old style cable remote release, the N75 use an IR remote release.
At the time of their release, the N80 was the top of the line amateur camera; the N75 was mid line amateur camera.
The F100 was the entry level pro camera and the F5 the top of the line pro camera.
Neither the N75 nor N80 will meter with manual focus, non-chipped lenses. (The AI-P lenses do have a chip.)
Both are compatible with AF, AF-G, AF-D, AF-I and AF-S lenses.
The N6006 is a good camera, but the metering is older and the AF is not as good; a generation older than the N90/N90s/F90/F90X and N70/F70 AF and metering modules. I believe it will meter with AF and MF lenses; It does not use distance information in exposure calcs or flash exposrue calcs.
The N70 was before the N80; solid build, little brother to the N90; funky user interface due to the built in flash's capabilities. I acutally liked my N70 more than the N80 for different reasons (ability to meter with manual lenses, for example).
Unless anyone else weighs in with more information I'll stick with my initial guess: the N75. Even though we've gone shooting together we've done it so very rarely that he really will be starting nearly from scratch, particularly given that we've done absolutely nothing at all with film. He can graduate to more advanced bodies if he stays really gung ho.
Thanks again for your quick and helpful answer!!!
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LaDonna; I know this post is at least 1 year old...actually, I had forgotten all about it...but if your young man is still interested in photography, the best thing you could do for him, if you already haven't, is to buy him a copy of Bryan Peterson's book; "UNDERSTANDING EXPOSURE" 3rd edition. It's the one book that every photographer should have in his/her library!
Ansel Adams' books are great, as are Fred Picker's, but, most of us just need good, basic exposure information.
Peterson's book contains a wealth of clear information about the one thing that confuses most young photographers, and a lot of us older ones, too...although we'd never admit it!
Having had a N55, N65, N75, N80 and a F100 the two best are the N80 and F100. The N80 has a very quiet shutter and is silky smooth the F100 is a tank and very fast. In the end I kept my F100 so I could use my old manual focus lens but to be honest I miss my N80 very much. Of the ones you list I would go with a N80.
My first was a Minolta Maxxum I stumbled on to rather accidently which took gorgeous pictures and I sold just as fast as I got it because the LAST thing I need is another camera system! (Canon, Nikon, Pentax is enough!) That little jewel led me into these superb cameras.
My favorite is, hands down, the N90. Simple controls, heavy and robust, just a tad plasticky but it's a handful and I like 'full-bodied' cameras. It takes GORGEOUS photos!
I've not had an N80 but I looked at one recently, very good, better than my N65 which is much better than the Minolta. (The only reason I miss THAT one is it exposed so nicely but its too plasticky by far for me, like a little toy camera.
I had an N2000 and N2020....yeech. They performed ok but I just didn't like the style. Too much like a toy camera. Way too much. My N90's sound like toy cameras (LOL) but they sure don't look it!
N65/55 etc, very similar, my N65 handles nicely. Not bad but it ain't a N90!
I had the F80 (N80) until recently and it gave fantastic results. I then bought an F100 and gave the F80 to a friend. I now wished I had kept the F80 and used one with slide and the other with B&W negative.