It take the DK-6 rubber eyecup for F100 (8$ at every camera shop). After very simple and minimal filing, it fits in the F80 perfectly. You should try your self. I think this work is not difficult at all Cheeeersss. So
Great Job!! Everytime I look at the F100 and the F5 I only wish they made one of these for the N80. Now, I guess I don't have to want anymore. I can make one, or should I say two (2 N80s). I just have a couple of questions.
Is the ring metal or plastic?
What kind of file did you use? This way I know I am using the same tool to duplicate the process.
I am going to the camera store to order mine tomorrow. I appreciate any further information.
Thanks again So for the wonderful innovation. I went and got a DK-6 today and DID IT!! It fits perfectly! Mine was not as precise as yours, but nevertheless, it was neat and functional. For those of you who are going to do it, I found that a 6" Round Bastard File (really, that's what it's called) which can be picked up at Home Depot works wonderfully! My 2 cents!
hehe Congratulation....You are so innovative in the way you used nail-clipper I used a small flat file (5mm X 2mm X 150 mm) and a round one (2mm in diameter) to file the metal ring from the inside. No need to file on the bottom surface at all, the thickness is just perfect.
well I guess that's y the say necessity is the force behind innovation....
looked around the whole house and the was the only file I could find.... sooo.....
but I wouldn't really recommend using that.... my fingers still hurt from it.... that and the end product wasn't as neat as yours...
Oh yea.... another thing I found usefull was filling up the sink with water... then filing either under the water or rinsing it with water as you are filing... it helps clear the metal filings off of the rubber and ur hands too..
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Hi Arno, I think the DK2 would not suitable since the ring is too small to fit in... What a robbery 18 Euro for the DK-6, I just bough another DK-6 here (japan) for 5$ in a camera warehouse. May be you should not buy it over the internet.
I just got one today. It cost me $16 USD in Clearwater, Florida. It is a shame that there aren't more camera stores in the area to drive down the price. I could have bought it at BH for $10 USD but then you have to ship it. Once I complete this one, I will complete another for my other N80.
I wear glasses and for me sometimes the problem is not the light coming between the viewfinder and your eye but the light between the glasses and your eye. Plus, with glasses on, an eyecup increases the distance from the viewfinder to your eye.
>I wear glasses and for me sometimes the problem is not the >light coming between the viewfinder and your eye but the >light between the glasses and your eye. Plus, with glasses >on, an eyecup increases the distance from the viewfinder to >your eye.
Yes, that's what I'm concerned about. I know for sure an eyecup works awesome for folks who don't wear glasses. Maybe I'll try my friend's F100 and see what it is like first...
Well, I took my newly altered N80 out for a field test. The pictures might not be the best once developed, but what a difference. You have to get used to pushing the eye cup against your eye slightly, but thats it. I am really impressed. Brighter viewfinder it seems and less distractions.
Thanks everyone, I have had a lot of fun on this thread..
Small improvement but...
This improvement allow this eye-cup to be used with all rectangular viewfinder Nikon Bodies (N6006, N60, N70, N75 etc...including the D100...) since Nikon has a standard on viewfinder size.
I used a not so thin paper board (but not over 0.5 mm thickness), cut it off to fit the ring, and then, while place it inside the ring (in upside down position), I used a little super glue (aron alpha glue) to keep it attached. Then, with a black marker, the any-color paper board is blackened. Lastly, a drop of super-glue on the paper plasticizes it (since paper board absorbs the glue) and makes it permanent. After 5 minutes, I could use a file for fine details.
Hi - If you're serious, I'd really like to buy one from you. I bought the eyecup, waited a week for it to be shipped and broke it while trying to get it to fit. I'm all thumbs! Its a really great idea so if your interested, please contact me. I'm new to Nikonians and to discussion groups like this, so I'd really be surprised if this message ended up in the right place. Thanks. Dave
Dear So, I just bought one DK-6(AUS20) for my Nikon N80D yesterday. However, I am still confused about the procedure to make it. Would you give me the exact dimension of the rectangular viewfinder(in mm) I have to cut so that I can measure and mark properly on the ring before filling it. Thanks.
First, you dont have to remove the eyecup to change film. All you have just to tuck up the rubber a little bit by the door side.
Second, this eyecup does not help focusing in low light since the focus metering circuit is positioned inside the mirror chamber. But this eyecup helps quite more accurate mettering in low light since mettering sensors stay in the viewfinder.
Thanks very much for the reply! What I meant by the second question though was if you were manual focusing (macro etc) in low light does the light sealing eyecup (hence brighter viewfinder) make locking on to focus easier... But I re-read the above posts and a few people have said the viewfinder does seem brighter because of it!!
I am currently tracking down a DK-6 as I am typing this!!! Thanks again
I ordered my DK-6 eyecup two days ago. Another ripoff by Nikon (17 euros in the Netherlands!). It arrived today and after half an hour work, following the instructions, the job was done. It works great, much better than the original eyecup. No more stray light coming in! I had some trouble gettting rid of light coming in from the top part of the eyecup. There was just a little gap hat showed itself while trying the camera outside in bright sunlight. As mentioned before, a little more filing did the job (although the aperture has a somewhat diffrrent shape now).
I also noticed that this eyecup neatly flips over towards the camera body (just like rubber lens hoods can be flipped), so storing the camera in my backpack does not raise any problems with this eyecup.
Thanks again to the publisher of this neat invention!
You guys know that you can buy this eye cup, right:
If you need a larger cup, look for generic brand eyecups at the camera store that fit on cameras like the FG which has the same size frame around the viewfinder as the N80. You can get a variety of shapes and sizes and the clip is made of metal and stays on very well. I have a full eyecup like this but it is 'eye' shaped and blocks out _all_ light. I still prefer the one shown above since it does not interfere with the camera back when opening.
I've found this halfmoon eyecup to cut down on extaneous light _much_ better than the original cup that comes on the N80. Only the generic full eye cup I described above does a better job.
Of the three eyecups I've used (original, half-moon type I showed and the generic full eye cup), I've lost one of each in three years. The generic one had a snug metal frame and metal springs that hold onto the viewfinder frame. Still came off. If you move about a lot with an N80 you will lose eyepieces.
Some have used a dab of glue to keep theirs on. I just bought a bunch and when I lose one, I replace it.
I made this cup as discussed in this thread. Though there might be some 3rd party cups available I prefered customizing. About being in the way of the film door, I don't think it's that a problem at all. It's better than easily loosing it, as some ppl mentioned. And, having a bunch of them with me is not my choice.
I used "MIT 6652 Jumbo Needle file set" (5 files in a small pack at $7.00 CDN) and a little concentration, the cup fits snug and gives a new look to the body.
I am glad (but not surprised) to see the ingenuity of dedicated Nikonians. Below are the "regular" rubber eyecups: DK-9 and DK-10. The last one that perfectly fits is the Rubber Eyecup f N2-4-5-6000 Series & N50 Cameras with B&H Catalog # NIECN6006 And a drop of rubber glue keeps it in place, without disturbing the opening of the camera back. All images courtesy of B&H, who sells them currently -respectively- for USD 6.95, 3.50 and 6.50
The N/F80 is such a wonderful and popular camera. If you all think we should have a short guide showing all of the possible eyecup alternatives to date, including this latest ingenious adaptation, just let me know.
The shape of the N80 viewfinder frame is the same as _many_ Nikon consumer bodies. It is the same as the FG for instance. It would be interesting to know just how many eyecups would fit on the N80. Probably a bunch. You'd have to look at the DK-9 (for instance) and see which bodies it fits on, then find out which eye cups would also fit on those bodies. All of them should fit on the N80 too. It would take at least an hour searching B&H.
Thanks again for the great contribution, So! I got mine done today. At the moment I can't really say it significantly improves the view (I wear glasses), but I will be going to a trip this weekend at which point I will be using my camera a lot, then I'll be able to tell.
it's huge and rather ugly, but it completely cups around my glasses and makes a total light seal. All of a sudden f/22 is totally visible. Believe it or not, it clips securely on to the N80 viewfinder with *no* modifications.
you have to pull it off to change film. But it's not like the stock Nikon one, which squishes around to get in the groove. It has a hard plastic track that snaps into place, so taking it on and off is trivial.
If I didn't have glasses I'd go for the F100 eyecup as this one is sort of big and ugly.
I also use the DK-6 on N80 , But I didn't removed the small rubber triangles as suggested. I found that it can serve as stoppers for the lower part and allow to place the cup on the body without any difficulty. If those triangles jumps out after assembled , just pull a little the cup's rubber and play with it until the triangles goes into the slot.
i absolutly love the ide and design. I made my own after following the instructions and fits perfect....
However....there is still plenty of light coming from the top cause of the circunference but I'll try to fix that the way he suggested with the card board. There is also light flooding in from the bottom which doesn't seem to have solution unless we glued a piece of thing rubber at the bottom.
I just got my F80 last week and have managed to "lose" the eyecup at least six times so far. Am considering glueing it onto the diopter +1 that I need for my failing eyesight.
Can anyone tell me if the Rod Barbee eyecup conversion, or So's conversion would work with a diopter, or am I stuck with the original cup that is driving me nuts. If I lose it totally, I will have to buy these pesky things in packs of 12, or it's the glue treatment...
I don't think the Barbee solution will help you.... it will pop-off like any other 'slide-on' device. Tran's (SO) solution is an extremely secure set up. Mine hasn't come loose in more than two months of daily use. I don't kow if you could use diopter lenses or not.
Well, after getting a minature filing set from Home Depot, I was off and running. Mission Accomplished. Now I am going to get another one for my second N80. I however have thought of a better way to file. I am looking into borrowing a dremel for the next go around. It could make things quicker and I would only have to use the files for details. It is totally amazing. People talk of the N80 being a minature F5, well, now it is. YEAH!! I have enclosed a picture to show you how it turned out. The filing job was actually pretty clean. Not perfect, but a clean job.
To all those fellow N/F80 users who want to also do this, one note. When you think you are finished, look through viewfinder and see if the light is coming in through the top of the circular opening. I myself thought I was done when I looked through the viewfinder and saw a distracting spot. With a little more filing, problem solved.
Thank you all for encouragements, Congratulation Ed, your seems to be better than mine.. , more symetrical... I have also noticed the light from the top the circular opening, but instead of more filing ( I am kind of lazy man), I have opted for a small black foam just inside the circular opening...and solved the prob.