I watched this show. Absolutely fantastic stuff from the BBC. And such validation as to what an important instrument the Nikon F truly was, not just as a landmark SLR, but in industrial design in general.
We have all benefitted from it's innovations, many of which we take for granted today.
Part of me is hesitant to buy an original F, mainly because I think some of the metering finders can be tempremental at best, and that repairs/parts are likely not cheap, and probably challenging. But, watching this show really makes you appreciate what an innovative, amazing instrument it truly was.
Just find yourself one that's been worked on. Or, use a hand meter with it and don't bother fixing a dead Photomic finder. The F, with its quirks, is a great little body to shoot with. Mine has become one of my main bodies, second only to the F2A, which is the body that usually gets the most use, when I go shooting nowadays.
I really enjoyed seeing those videos, Miguel. Thanks for bringing them to our attention.
John, I used to have a black F like that. Sold it to fund a black F2. I missed having it, so later I bought another F. I love the F, but not quite as much as the F2. I have read that the F2 is the perfection of the F. Whereas the F is somewhat of an evolution from the rangefinder line, the F2 is said to be an altogether new camera.
I wonder.... Do you suppose that Nikon would ever make a commemorative edition of the Nikon F? What do you think it would cost if they did?
The fact that they did this with their rangefinder makes me wonder about this possibility.
FWIW, my F's Photomic head's metering cells must leak, as they "report light" even in total darkness (lens cap on, viewfinder window covered). In bright light the meter is relatively correct, but in dim (room) light it indicates more light than is actually there by as much as two or three stops.
I just use a Sekonic incident/reflective hand meter with it. Works great.
Henry, interesting thought. I don't see the F2 as being a completely different camera than the F, but it is more of a departure from the F than the F was from the SP. They both use the same shutter (just with a faster top speed on the F2, afforded by the titanium parts in the mirror box) and the same focusing screens, etc. The DP-1 finder is basically the F2 version of the FTn finder, with the same sensitivity and meter cells, etc. The rest of the F2 seems more mainstream than the F with its rangefinder-esque quirks. Like the hinged back, the shutter release being where it is on a Nikkormat EL, etc... For the most part, I can go back and forth between my F2A and my F, and not get confused. They both work pretty much identically.
The F3 was more of a departure than the F2 was from the F, but, at the same time, it still used the same shutter - this time, electronically controlled between 30 seconds and 1/1000, and, basically the same focusing screens, just in a frame with a lip to allow easier removal and installation. So, even though the F3 is much different, it's still not a completely different camera from its predecessor. It wasn't until the F4 came out that you could say that the evolution stopped and revolution occured instead. Even so, it still used the same basic focusing screens, as well as the same LCD that the F3 had in the upper left corner.
With respect to Nikon doing a commemorative edition of the F, I think we would've seen it by now. So, I doubt they'll do it. If they did, I suspect the going price would be somewhere around the D3x. Luckily, the selection of nice F's is pretty good, so, I don't think I'd miss having a collectible version.
Sat 13-Feb-10 07:21 PM | edited Sat 13-Feb-10 07:26 PM by T42
I also switch back and forth between an F and an F2 with no problem. The choice of which was usually governed by which film I had in which body at any given time.
Thanks a million for the education about the evolution from F to F4. I share your suspicion that if a commemorative F were to emerge, it would be ghastly in cost. Built for collectors and not to be actually used. It would not surprise me that if they did offer it, it might have a fabric shutter instead of the titanium foil one, and that it might come with a 50mm f1.4 with the latest coatings.
Don't forget what mood you're in at the time. I find that I'll sometimes go out with any one of my bodies, just because I feel like it's that camera's day to shoot.
Yeah, I suspect they'd do the cloth shutter, if they wanted it to be a reproduction of the first F, and not of my F, for example. Would also need an uncut mirror box, so a T, Tn, or FTn finder would not fit without modification. That said, I suspect they'd model it after a 66xxxx red dot F. Those were already rare to begin with.
It works like new. I did have it overhauled and converted to use the silver batteries a couple years ago, but, even beforehand it was fairly accurate, just jumpy. As seen in the photo that I posted in your thread, the FTn prism is currently removed and a very battered eyelevel prism is in its place. Got the camera from a guy I know who used to run a repair shop in Seattle. He decided to move to Oregon, and, before he moved away, I offered him $75 for the body with the FTn prism, and he accepted it. When I loaded it with film, I realized that it had the motor drive plate installed, so I essentially got that for free, even though it usually goes for $90-$125ish. The F-36 drive was added last year.
Interesting! When I was 18 I wanted an F, as I had seen used in Blowup, but could not afford one, hence my username and avatar. On my 21 birthday I bought a Pentax Spotmatic but always regreted it. I moved from NZ to UK in 1973 and in 1976 I sold the Pentax to a flatmate and bought an F2SB which I upgraded to an F2AS as soon as the DP-12 was available. I did most of my shopping at 'Fox Talbot' in the days when Gray of 'Grays of Westminster' worked there. I think now that I prefer the softer lines of the F2.
Wed 31-Dec-14 12:59 AM | edited Wed 31-Dec-14 09:43 AM by Kilted_F3_nut
>Interesting! >When I was 18 I wanted an F, as I had seen used in Blowup, but >could not afford one, hence my username and avatar. On my 21 >birthday I bought a Pentax Spotmatic but always regreted it. >I moved from NZ to UK in 1973 and in 1976 I sold the Pentax to >a flatmate and bought an F2SB which I upgraded to an F2AS as >soon as the DP-12 was available. I did most of my shopping at >'Fox Talbot' in the days when Gray of 'Grays of Westminster' >worked there. I think now that I prefer the softer lines of >the F2. > >Peter. >Nikon F - A camera made out of corners
Just curious- what lines on an F2 are softer? Akiva S.