Fri 01-Feb-08 05:35 PM | edited Sat 02-Feb-08 01:08 PM by chamster
I have recently bought few lenses from a seller in USA privately. Outside this forum. I paid for the item by Western Union money transfer. The tracking number that I was supplied comes up as "There is no record of this item" at USPS website even after 2 days of lodgement. Is this common? Please help me. What should I do next?
As a former USPS employee I agree that their tracking isn’t the greatest. However, the Express tracking is the exception because it’s the only service that comes with a money back guarantee. Express tags are scanned at every point along the way. The first scan should show up within an hour or so of being received at the PO and the packages are taken directly to the airport (and scanned again), from the individual stations. Not to alarm you but if they’re not showing up after two days then something’s fishy.
I hope all went well with your purchase but everytime I see Western Union I think of all the scams that has used that. Best of luck.
I have never been able to track anything using the post office tracking either. It usually arrives before the system shows it.
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Hope this worked out for you, but why would anyone pay with Western Union?? every where you look people get ripped off using them, They offer no protection and Its the first sign of a SCAM. When anyone wants WU RUN Forrest Run. Even if this works out its still a risk you shouldnt take
If after 2 days and you still cannot track the status from USPS then I am afraid you will not be seeing it especially paying through Western Union because they are the favorite route for Scammer to get paid. It is untraceable that's why they love it. Sorry to hear about these things. Hope he turns out to be legit. Best wishes
I've always been told by USPS that you must track these at a local Post Office and not on a home computer. I've done that many times with no problems, just walked in and had them track it right away. I've found that the insurance tracking number is the easiest to track at a Post Office.
>I hope all went well with your purchase but everytime I see >Western Union I think of all the scams that has used that. >Best of luck. > > I have never been able to track anything using the post >office tracking either. It usually arrives before the system >shows it. > >
I agree.. Avoid the "too good to be true" transactions especially when payment is requested via Western Union
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USPS Express Mail provides excellent tracking from the moment a package is accepted at the retail window. All domestic Express Mail tracking number starts with letter E(express)+another letter+9digit numerical numbers and ends with US(E* ********* US). Unlike Priority Mail delivery confirmation which is scanned upon delivery, this is tracking service. All the Express Mail package should be able to track from acceptance and every step of the way.
If the tracking number you were given is not of above format, or you don't see any tracking result, I suggest you to contact your local US Postal Inspection Service.
Me thinks you have been HAD. Not sure of how much money was involved, but I pretty sure it's gone. Western Union, as someone else mentioned, is the first red flag. I hope I'm wrong here, but it certainly doesn't look good to me. USPS should at least have acknowledged receiving it by now. Keep us informed.
Exactly... Never pay by Western Union... lots of folks may not like PayPal, but it's the only safe method for payment for both buyers and sellers... I've had dozens and dozens of Ebay transactions over the years, and Paypal has always been a fair method both as a seller and buyer.
Cashiers checks aren't much different than Western Union and in this type of payment only the seller is protected. Luckily, most everyone here is honest and it's not a big concern, but I'd never conduct a transaction without using Paypal online...
You can file a Mail Fraud Complaint with the US Postal Service so you can have a record on file of what happened, but I'm not sure what else can be done to track down the goods or the person(s) involved.
My suggestion is to contact your local State Attorney General office to file an internet fraud complaint against this scammer with all the information that you have on him. It won't cost you anything except a stamp to send back the complaint form to the AG office. Many states has participated a joint internet fraud network with the FBI to deal with all internet fraud across the state line. It will take at least 2-3 months before you'll hear anything, you may never get your money back but they will put this guy in jail. Recently in MASS they arrested a woman whom had scammed over $15,000 selling bogus item and she was put in jail for over 2 years. This is Grand Larceny and they will take action. The key is we all must cooperate to report these kind of scam and cheaters. If price is so good then why should you be the lucky one?? Hope everything else is good for you. Cheers & happy shooting.
Sun 03-Feb-08 02:55 PM | edited Sun 03-Feb-08 02:58 PM by thundrr
The first thing you want to do is gather as much information on the person as you can find. Google their name, Google their on line name, find out if and how many sites this person has. You may even find photo's of the scammer. If they have a site, do a "whois" on it, that will tell you everything about the site.... owner, address, phone number, etc. Gather as much info as you can and turn it over to the local police, first. Again, you'll have to wait about 3 months for any results. If that doesn't work then turn it over the a higher authority.
How do I know about this??? I too, got scammed on the "Bay" buying a police scanner. And no, it wasn't a "too good to be true" price. The unit was never shipped. Paypal only covered $200.00 and charged $25.00 for their "investigation", which consisted of sending the seller an e-mail. I started my own investigation immediately. I used his online name and found out his real name and his location. I then found photo's of him on the web (kind of amazing). I spent about a month tracking him down and found a site he had. I printed out all the info and turned it over to the police (happened to be State police in my case). After about a month, I got a refund from Paypal, as he returned the money to them.
It turned out that the State cop was perusing his site with an "obvious" State Police computer. He must have seen this in his traffic reports and decided that someone was on to him. It wound up costing me the $25.00 that Paypal charged me, but I consider it a cheap education.
I sold an item to someone after 3 weeks, the person complained and Pay Pal reversed the transaction and withdrew money from my account. I gave the buyer 5 days to notify me of any problems and he didn't. So in the end I got screwed and had to repair the problem even though when I sent it, it was perfect. I also insured it - but my the time I received notice of the problem, it was to late to make a claimmm - so I got screwed. This way I usually prefer Money Orders and not Pay Pal. But I do understand the concern.
Mon 04-Feb-08 10:08 AM | edited Mon 04-Feb-08 10:09 AM by chamster
I never use Western Union. In general I would not get caught by scammers. The reason I fell on to the trap was that I have bought few grands worth of lenses over the last few months from him before and have even talked over the phone few times & appeared very "reasonable". My first encounter with him was through eBay. His eBay ID is jtjdp or Jonathan D. Berry from Columbia, MO. Has 99.9% positive eBay feedback for >2000 items eventhough majority were low priced items.
I appreciate all the help & encouragement from some really expert Nikonians especially with regards to the next step. I do not want anyone else getting into the trap of this person. I will post any siginificant updates.