Tue 30-Jun-09 08:53 AM | edited Tue 30-Jun-09 11:16 AM by bgs
Today Nikonians releases a free software called "Annotate!" for annotating JPG images.
The software enables you to easily give critique on others work, to include comments and proposed enhancements directly in the image. It can further be used by teams where images are annotated (notes attached), e.g. in publishing or by architects, making image notes in emails and in PDF's superfluous.
A virtual crop can be added to the image as well, making it possible to show what a certain crop what do to the composition.
The program stores the annotations in the so called "EXIF header" of the image, so these are non-destructible additions to the original image and not seen in regular JPG viewers. It further allows you to export a new version of the JPG image with annotations automatically drawn onto the image.
The program only runs on MS Windows right now. We will likely launch a Macintosh version of the program later. A user guide is available by pressing function key "F1".
When you open Annotate! for the first time, it will ask you to enter your full name and your Nikonians username. If you are not registered with Nikonians.org yet, this is a good time to do so. It is simple and will only take 30 seconds
The program was written to be as simple as possible to use, with a straight-forward user interface, not overloaded with functionality. We hope we have achieved this goal, but if you feel there is something that can be improved or if you are missing a feature and have suggestions for improvements please send us feedback at annotate-feedback * nikonians.org
>looking forward to playing around with it. > >of course, nice for photo forums, >... and i can see potential usefulness in the automobile >forums i frequent, for exchanging descriptive technical notes >on images > >http://boki-san.smugmug.com/photos/512661897_hY6up-O.jpg > >tcb, boki-san
I can't find any way for Annotate! to put arrows or text on an image. How did you do that?
--When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.-- Edmund Burke
>I'm using a MacBook Pro with MACOS 10.6 > >Could you be so kind to make up a list of Nikonians waiting >for a Mac version of "Annotate!" in order to let us >know when ready to download ! > >Thank you in advance. I do need that SW !
In the mean time you can annotate images in Preview, and you already have it!
I hope this message reaches the right person. I downloaded the Annotate! program and found it to be very intuitive and user friendly.
However, I have run into a big problem. When I go to export and preview my annotated image, it appears to be formatted as how I wish to show it. But - the saved image is severely cropped, only showing a small section of the entire image. I cannot figure out how to correct.
The program should not crop your output. A virtual crop can be placed on the image, but it should not produce the results you mention if I understand you correctly. You can set different output image sizes during export, but none should crop the image. Please report exactly what you are doing including a sample file if possible to annotate-feedback a t nikonians dot org so we can have a look at that.
Thanks for the prompt reply. Actually it had nothing to do with the cropping function. I seperately emailed annote-feedback and got a response from the program's creator, Marek Tomsa.
Here is his response:
Thank you very much for pointing this out and for providing the test images. This was a bug connected with handling of images of certain size.
It is fixed now and an update will be published soon. The application has an auto update feature so you should receive a prompt offering to download the update automatically when you start the application.
I must be dense. I can open a plethora of green boxes on the image but I can't get anything into them. I can type text on the botton of the window or in seperate little windows on the right side but nothing ever shows up on the image itself.
--When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.-- Edmund Burke
Make a box by click-drag-release the mouse (click the mouse button, drag and let go). This creates a box. This is the annotated area. Now you have a NEW edit field on the right hand side of the main window. In this field you can enter the annotation text belongs to the selected annotated area.
So, each click-drag-release with the mouse on the image creates a new annotation area and a new, corresponding field to enter the annotation (the text) into.
When you select one annotated area with the mouse by clicking on it, you will also select the corresponding annotation text field on the right hand side.
The annotations you made are stored in the JPG when you click on the SAVE button. When someone else opens the same file in their Annotate! program, they will see the annotations. If you EXPORT the file you did, by clicking the EXPORT button, you can click a PREVIEW button. This shows you how the annotations will look like ONTO the image (actually around the image on a separate frame), should you rather select to export the file. If you now EXPORT the file and open the exported file in e.g. a browser, you will see the annotations just like in the preview.
Please note: the annotations are stored in the file when you click SAVE and this can be shared with others. You only need to export if you want to e.g. upload the resulting annotated file to an online forum, such as in here at Nikonians.
Wed 01-Jul-09 10:46 AM | edited Wed 01-Jul-09 06:19 PM by bgs
Try this: 1) Select an area with the mouse. 2) Type some text (it is going to go into the field onto the right part of the window). 3) Click export and save the new file. (You may also want to use the preview function in the export dialog window) 4) Look at the new file.
You're done. Edited to add: Oops! Did NOT intend to edit your post! Your original post below +++ Bo
I also am able to create green boxes but am unable to get the annotations committed to those boxes. I've uninstalled it. I have enough tools to annotate photos if I want but thought I'd give this a look. If you care to offer clearer instruction on how to actually commit the annotations on the photo, I'll certainly try it again.
It is really easy... I believe Please don't think in terms of dragging lines, or doing arrows or stuff like that. Simple click and select an area of the image, then type a text. You can now export your file. In the export dialog there is a preview as well.
>When you open Annotate! for the first time, it will ask you to >enter your full name and your Nikonians username. If you are >not registered with Nikonians.org yet, this is a good time to >do so. It is simple and will only take 30 seconds
Does that mean that a Nikonians registration is required to continue using the program? Can images saved with it still be edited, if one leaves Nikonians?
Is it possible to share the images with people who don't have a Nikonians account?
Good questions! Yes, there is a small dialog requesting you to enter your full name and Nikonians username when the program is launched for the first time. This data can then be used in the export where it is rendered on the final image. The data can be modified by clicking on the "options" link top right in the main window.
If someone is not a Nikonians member during installation, we request that he should register. We are though currently not doing any authorization against this data, so even if you are not registered, or if you are no longer an active member, you can still use the program.
So, you can use it no matter if you are a member or not. We have no intentions to make this a "cripple ware" with reduced or no functionality when the user is no longer a member.
And further, we have no intentions whatsoever to limit the use of the program, rather, we want to see that as many as possible use it since we believe it is good advertising for the community.
So, yes, pls go ahead and share with others. If they register with Nikonians, good. If they do not, also ok.
I figured out why I could not see the annotations in the photo while working on it. One intuitively wants to press ENTER or Double Click after typing to see what the changes look like, before continuing on. As it is now, one must click EXPORT and PREVIEW to see the changes. It would be nice to view your work or to EDIT before EXPORT. Also, little arrows (shapes) would nice.
I hope you don't think I am ungrateful. I appreciate the free software and your efforts.
Thu 02-Jul-09 05:20 AM | edited Thu 02-Jul-09 05:38 AM by Hendric
Here I will show two examples how to use it.
The obvious opportunity is to load up a picture from a previous post. There you can make annotations and put it online here.
The second opportunity is just to keep the picture as it is. So if somebody shows a picture here you can download it, put your annotations there and simply send it to him. The picture itself always stays as it is. But if you open it with Annotate you can see what I wrote.
Try it here! (Download and reopen it with Annotate)
Bob, The program is designed to work on our forums primarily, where the max size of images is 900px at their widest or tallest. Then they won't need to be shrunk, making notes unreadeable unless you do have an electron microscope
well if she closed her jacket, my eyes might be drawn to the line that enters just under her left ear and exits behind her right eye. Better to keep the jacket open..I really like how you amplified her curves with the positioning of the fur jacket edge. Nice image!
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I am one of those computer users who like to choose where on my computer programs and data are located -- the drive and the directory, usually of my own creation. 'Have been doing so for decades. There was no choice with Annotate, however.
Annotate just automatically installed itself where the programmer of the installation routine chooses, a mystery unless one goes on a search of the hard drives. The last place I put anything, like a program for instance, is in Microsoft's documents and settings or similarly disguised directories for everything under the sun.
Mac users who are using the new OS-Snow Leopard can use Preview to annotate their images a lot like the software described on this thread. I just noticed it and thought I would pass it along. Here's an example:
Hello, I just downloaded the latest version to my Vista Ultimate x64 PC. Annotate installed fine. However, I'm not able to drag or load a .jpg file into the Annotate! window. Annotate sent an error report after each try. Thanks, Steve
If you tried to use V1.04 on a 64bit system it would not work properly. The fix for this problem was provided with the "Community Edition" of Annotate! V1.05
It is recommended that you manually remove V1.04 from your system, since V1.05 will not do so, but will install as a separate copy (this has to do with that we are using a so called "Code Signing Certificate" now)
I'm running Windows XP 64-bit and have tried the download several times. Each time I receive approximately 600 kb before the download stops. I have saved a copy of the log from the attempted installation if you would like to see it.
>If you tried to use V1.04 on a 64bit system it would not work >properly.
Bo, I have AnnotatExpert 1.31.6, on my Win Vista Home Premium 64bit. I have not yet started the learning curve (still working on cNX2/Photo Mech). When I get around to AnnotatExpert, will it work on my 64bit system?
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Not bad! It's going to take awhile to figure out, and it may have specific, limited, applications, but overall I think I like it. I (apparently like others) had some initial negative reaction (anger even), but I stuck with it and figured out some of the operating characteristics from the responses here in the thread, and got it to do some things that I preferred.
I think the biggest flaw is the very limited and cryptic instructions. I think there is a lot of room for improvement there, but that is minor and easily fixed. *If* there is a "model" on which it is based (like Capture NX is loosely based on the operating functionality of PS), it would be easy to refer to it to get users thinking in the right direction.
It seems that I can only annotate jpeg images. I read the entire manual and unless I missed it somewhere, it doesn't mention any way to use Annotate on a Tiff files. So am I right? Is this a jpeg only program? That's not too big of a problem, I just want to make sure that I understand that before I start converting anything I want to annotate into a jpeg. Rich "... and miles to go before I sleep" R Frost
For now, Annotate supports jpegs and pngs. Due to technical reasons, pngs have to be re-saved to jpegs if you want to save annotations in image header (pngs do not support embedding of xmp metadata directly in the image). To annotate a png file, just drop it to Annotate with the mouse. To save it back, click the disk symbol next to image thumbnail and Annotate will ask you to specify a file name with jpeg extension for the image.
Support for RAW, tiff and other formats will come very soon. Stay tuned
Just installed latest version and browse tree pane (when My Computer is clicked) still does not show disk labels. Can this be fixed. If hitting the browse button and using the Microsoft file browser window is the answer, why include the file tree?
This may seem picky but I have drives c:\ to T:\ on my server and without drive labels the file tree is useless.
Side note - be sure to look for old versions of Annotate in the "Remove programs" under control panel, the current install does not remove old versions it just installs next to them (going from initial free version to expert trial that is.)
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>Just installed latest version and browse tree pane (when My >Computer is clicked) still does not show disk labels. Can this >be fixed. If hitting the browse button and using the Microsoft >file browser window is the answer, why include the file tree?
The file tree is just a goodie besides other nodes that are in the Browse tab (Recently opened, Images from the web, Recently exported, Annotated images, From camera). We will have e.g. a cloud browser node there soon that will allow you to manage your online collections of images and possibly collaborate on images in real time.
Strange that you do not see the drive labels under "My Computer". Do you see anything at all when the My Computer node is expanded? Can it be expanded on your computer? What OS are you using?
As a workaround, feel free to use the "Browse..." button to locate a specific image on your hard drive and open it for annotation. Or you can use Ctrl+O or click on the Open icon in the toolbar.
>current install does not remove old versions it just installs >next to them (going from initial free version to expert trial >that is.)
Previous versions of Annotate used different technology (ClickOnce (online installer) as opposed to MSI that we are currently using (standalone downloadable .exe installer)), so detecting the old versions is not straightforward and may fail sometimes. Annotate 1.30 does look for previous versions and offers to remove them, but under some circumstances, it may not be possible to locate the old installation. (this is related to the user account you are/were installing the app under, your OS and also whether your account has admin priviledges)
Sorry for this inconvenience. All future versions of Annotate (like the today released 1.30.4 which supports wireless tethered shooting via EyeFi) will upgrade the existing installation and will not create any further entries under "Remove programs".
Sat 16-Apr-11 08:22 AM | edited Sat 16-Apr-11 08:27 AM by ozerly12
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I have not been able get Annotate to log in to Nikonians. I have tried from two different machines running Windows 7 (32 bit and 64bit) using the same Username/Password combination that gets me into this site.
I have tried reinstalling the software but to no avail.
Problem solved: Nikonians.org allows special characters in passwords and long paswords but it appears Annotate either does not like special characters or long passwords. I changed the password to alphanumeric only, shortened it, and it works now it works with Annotate now.