Fri 04-Jun-10 02:23 AM | edited Fri 04-Jun-10 02:26 AM by glxman
How much to sharpen? I just edit the image at the start and select the desired sharpening there, (looking closely at 100%)
The only time I have seen the quality degrade is when a friend of mine batched first then sized the longest side to 900 afterwards,
The only further advice would be to use the slider, (that is what I use), starting around 65%, this will depend on what detail is in the image, the quick selections do not appear to get a good result for me, just gradually move the percentage up or down until you get close to 150 KB This method is slow and you end up with a lot of images to delete but it is the only way I know how with NX2
How sharp does this image look on your screen? Not being pretentious here, just seeing if your screen is producing a sharp image, (trying to eliminate the variables)
Taken with the D700 and Ai 180mm Nothing special, but re sized with NX2 If this looks sharp enough on your screen, you should be ok
I should add that I do all my editing with a raw image before I batch, not sure if this would be a factor although I am sure a few photogs here are shooting jpeg anyway
I used to have a photographic memory but never got it developed
I do most of my resizing with Photomechanic, which has an Auto Sharpen option that seems to work well for me. This is just to say that sharpening after downsizing is so prevalent that they automated it, they being clever folks in the ways of simplifying workflow, and this is a biggie. Downsizing tends to lose edges, apparently in a very predictable way.
In NX2 I do the resize, as Gary suggested, and then add a very mild sharpening after the resize step, usually about 9/5/0 or so for starters, depending on the sharpness of the original image, but sharpen to taste. I've never made a science out of it, though.
You may be able to save the re-size and basic sharpening as a batch adjustment. You would probably need two, one for landscape and one for portrait mode. I just tried this and it seems to respect the value in the axis that you changed, and adjusts the other axis to whatever aspect ration you used. I think I'll keep that adjustment step for future use
Unlike Neil, I do not sharpen after resizing, as I mentioned earlier, I'm no expert but get by with NX2
Might have a look at Neil's idea of sharpening after resizing, I did have trouble with one image that had a lot of detail, it was an Autumn image and did not like the resizing process, that's the advantage of being a Nikonian, always learning new tricks that others here are always willing to share,
I used to have a photographic memory but never got it developed
When you resize you should always do a resharpen. I use PS to make my jepegs to post on Nikonians and it does an auto sharpening when it resizes too. It does not ahve to be much since you sharpened in processing anyway.
I was surprised that you don't sharpen after downsizing, especially since your image above looks good. As far as I know, that sharpening step is universally recommended, as as mentioned here, often done automatically by the better work flow managers.
>I've recently purchased NX2 and wonder what steps you folks >take to make your downloaded 150K images look so darn nice on >the Nikonians site?
Note that they don't have to be 150KB if you first place them in your gallery (800 pixels wide) and then put a link to the gallery in your forum posting. For example, this is a 541KB file I uploaded this morning for the autofocus lens forum.
What you see here is the original 541KB file, the same file I uploaded into my gallery. You can verify this by downloading it onto your computer.
The gallery is not restricted to 800 wide, as I remember it is something like 1800 x 1800 wide. I post all my images to the gallery but I do set them as long side 1000, with high quality, only not to make them too good. But you could post a really large file to your gallery within the 1800 x 1800 limits. Then you have two choices for automatically posting images to forums. One you could copy the link just below your image and past that into the forum, and it will post an image that meets forum size limits. Or if you really want traffic in your gallery, you can create a linked image in the forum so that if people click on it it will take them to the larger image in your gallery. The procedure can be found pined at the top of "A Picture I Took" where I inserted directions on how to do this. This way you really don't have to fool with resizing images for a forum as Nikonians has done it for you.
Sun 06-Jun-10 06:11 AM | edited Mon 07-Jun-10 01:55 AM by Robp
I wanted to try your suggestion so I backtracked to the "A Picture I Took" forum and found your reply * 5 under RickD's first post. I think the sentence stating "add the following right after "Nikonians" "-images"" should be changed to read "add the word "images" right before the word "Nikonians" in the second link you added".
Understand that I'm fully capable of misreading anything and probably did but here's an image produced by following your instructions modified as I construed the need.
Click image for a larger view in my gallery.
I'll appreciate constructive criticism. I blurred the background and used multi-stage sharpening on the dragonfly. I think its pretty sharp but it pales compared to the appeal of Peter's striking stork? image.
Sun 06-Jun-10 11:00 PM | edited Sun 06-Jun-10 11:04 PM by robsb
Rob I am sorry it is not clear. I had some problems with the text as sometimes it changed thus the quotes. In general what you are doing is this. there is a string that appears in both the large and small links and you have to change both. you add the "-images" after Nikonians, but as you see you already had an images term before Nikonians and that must be changes to "www". So the second string now reads "http//www.Nikonians-images". You also need to be sure to replace the first http entry with the "brackets link:" term for it all to work.
If it is not clearer now, just let me know. How I do it, is once I have copied and pasted the 2 links with the "|" separator, I start at the back and work forward adding the "-images" behind Nikonians, changing the "images" in front of Nikonians to "www", and then repeating for the first link and finally doing the link step.
Mon 07-Jun-10 02:08 AM | edited Mon 07-Jun-10 11:45 AM by Robp
Bob, as you can see above, it's working fine for me now. I
know what you mean about the quotes; I could not show an
example of the line of text in my post as I typed it because
our forum software interpreted parts of the line as a URL
regardless of quoting. BUT WAIT…
I just noticed the checkbox at the top of the Message Panel
that says "Check here if you want to format your message
in plain test. Use for posting code snippets".
Here's the URL SNIPPET per Bob's instructions:
I remember some of this nonsense from my early days of hand
coding HTML to make a text-only web page look decent on a
PDP-11 terminal but I've forgotten most of that. Glad you
read the HTML Reference on the side of the Message Panel and
did the hard work for us - thanks.
Edit: Bob pointed out, and I agree, that although the snippet
above works (I don't know why), the correct code format should
Interestingly, it actually works both ways. It was easy to verify, I just edited the message without changing the snippet, unchecked the Message Format box, and previewed the message. Then I changed the snippet to your configuration and previewed the message, with an identical result.
Your format looks more traditional to me and it more nearly agrees with your description in the "A Picture I Took" forum so I have edited my previous post to show your correct code format.
Mon 07-Jun-10 06:20 PM | edited Wed 09-Jun-10 12:38 AM by robsb
When I click on your image in reply 21 I get an error, but I guess you didn't fix that. I am surprised that it works both ways, but I think it was Bo who originally told me how to do this. It is true that if all you want to do is to link to the small image in the gallery, using the link below the image in the gallery will do that and you don't need all of this. The method I use puts the small image in the forum and gives you the click link to the larger image in the gallery. The benefit is you do not have to play with size before you post if you post to gallery first. But it looks like you found another way with less work.EDIT 6/9-Rob it is possible that the link address to the gallery has changed since I started using this script and they just keep both to make it work? Surely the addresses we pull from the gallery to create the dual link is exactly like what you did. As I remember when I first started using this last year, that did not work and Bo told me about the switching of the "image" terms which did work. In any case since not moving the image terms does not seem to matter, it is much easier to just do the link the way you did. I still can't get the link to work in your image in answer 21.
Bob, I think we have a mystery here. I've clicked on the image in Reply 21 several times including just now (6:15 PM, 6-9-2010) and it goes right to the large image in my gallery. Neil (Reply 27) indicates that it works for him also.
Please try it again and let me know, and describe it, if you get an error. I think you've shown us a nice tool and I'd like to correct my description if need-be to get rid of any mis-information.
Of course, there could be another explanation; jealous code-writers for Nikonians could be blocking access to cool features by Platinum members!
Just to confirm that I can still click the image above and open the gallery page.
Here is a suggestion: right click the image in reply 21 and select "copy link location", then paste the link into a reply here, checking the "format in plain text" option. That would verify that your browser is trying to use the same URL my browser is using. You could also copy the address directly from the browser *if* your browser doesn't modify that address when it gets a page not found error (my browser often does that).
Thu 10-Jun-10 10:35 AM | edited Thu 10-Jun-10 10:38 AM by PsychoBud
I get the same error message as Bob, and can see that the link
contains 4 slashes after http:
After removing 2 of the slashes the link works.
I use Microsoft Explorer, but maybe other browsers handle this
Thanks for digging into this. I use Safari so it was hiding the problem. I tried to edit reply 21 to correct my typing error but am informed that the edit period has expired. I hope the admins will set it straight or reopen/extend the edit period so that I can correct it. I'm flying out to Los Angeles this afternoon so probably won't get to revise anything until next week.
For the benefit of all of us, and the admins that might look into this...
Here is Rob's current link in reply #21, which contains a link starting with "link://www.images...". This clicks into the gallery image with Firefox, but not IE.
Here is what I think it ought to be , eliminating the "//" between Link: and www, such that it looks like this: "link:www.images...". This works for me using Firefox and IE8 on Win XP SP3.
Apparently some browsers, such as Firefox, can deal with the 4 slashes that the forum software apparently parses together when reading Rob's current reply #21 format, but IE cannot. My understanding is that, in general, link URLs should start with "www", omitting "http" and the slashes. The link after the "|" separator, which is the image embeddedinline here, is an exception to that rule and should contain "http://" (http and the slashes). I hope this makes sense.
Well it seems that my method is more bullet proof because it does use the "www". I have never had anyone complain that they could not click on my images and get to my callery, no matter what browser they used. I am using IE8 which explains why when Rob misunderstood my directions and changed the link code it worked for him, but not for me. Yet my code snippet worked for both of us.
As an addition to this issue for the purpose of trouble shooting it:
Clicking on the image in post 21 while I'm using Mozilla Firefox (my preferred browser) brings you to the Galleries page and the larger image no problem.
When I try using Internet Explorer it does not. Actually when click on the topic in the main forum page and the thread page comes up, it is reported in Internet Explorer on the bottom bar as being with errors.
>Bob, I think we have a mystery here. I've clicked on the >image in Reply 21 several times including just now (6:15 PM, >6-9-2010) and it goes right to the large image in my gallery. >Neil (Reply 27) indicates that it works for him also.