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NAS has me, D600 or D7100

blw

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"RE: NAS has me, D600 or D7100"

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Mon 08-Apr-13 12:27 PM

(Your profile is not extensively filled in, so it was hard for me to guess some of these things...)

If you're going to use an FX and a DX body at the same time, it probably makes more sense to use the long lens on the DX and the shorter one on FX, although it may take some rearrangement of lenses to get in to that state. I normally now shoot a D3 and a D2x at motorsport events, and lots of the time the 400mm is on the D2x. In your case because of the 11-16, both of your extremes are better tailored to DX.

Like you, I use an older DX camera and 18-55 kit lens for miscellaneous sorts of shots. (In my case, often the D100, since it effectively does not have a frame counter, and since it is now like an old '75 Chevy: it's paid for!) On the other hand, the majority of my serious photography is done with a D3, and when a second or backup body is required, a D2x. As someone who shoots both DX and FX on a regular basis, I can say with some confidence that given good execution on the photographer's part, it is really pretty difficult to tell DX from FX by looking at the finished print. In my particular case, there are some areas where there are some fairly significant differences: the D2x thinks that "high" ISO is about 400, whereas the D3 can easily do 6400 at least as well. That's four stops, about the difference between f/5.6 and f/1.4. But with more modern bodies, the difference is a lot smaller. Between the D7000 and D600/800 it's probably only about a stop or maybe a stop and a third - still worth having, if you need it, but you didn't mention that. But aside from the high ISO advantage, and a somewhat more advanced AF system (I'd rate the D2x at about a 92 and the D3 at about 95), there really is not much different at the end of the day. For what you're describing, I honestly don't see a huge difference in the formats. You wouldn't very likely find that either the D7100, D600, or D800e would fail to suit, but then again you don't seem to be in the category of those pushing the limits either.

> I have considered a D800e, but the file sizes turned me off. I’ve had to buy a dedicated laptop as it is just for the ‘recreational’ pics, cos between them and work pics things quickly got squeezed on other pc's

I wouldn't be so worried about that. I was still able to get along - barely - with scans on my old laptop. 2.5Ghz Core Duo, 4GB - vintage 2008. But those scans are 200mp. That's two hundred, not twenty. With something newer, particularly with more RAM, 36mp should not be an obstacle at all. At worst you need a couple of new disk drives.

> And courses I shy away from, mainly cos memory was never one of my strong points, unless I do it with my hands, or solve a problem, then it tends to stick forever

But the courses, particularly a pro workshop, will put you in position to do those things and solve those problems. It's not so much about reading a book, it's about doing stuff that you've never done before, or finding out just what you can do. If I listened to all of what people tell me that the equipment can't do, I would never have tried much of what I have attempted (and, I think, often succeeded).

> I read from your reply I’d be better off with the D800e

No, not particularly. I just think that most people completely misread the cost of a DX->FX upgrade. To many people it looks like the difference between a D7100 and a D600, about $1300. But then once one considers a lens realignment, the price gets far higher. And then the difference between $2500 for a D600 and $3200 (or possibly just $3000 now) for a D800e looks a lot smaller. If you look at the tip of the iceberg, a D800e runs about 35% more money than a D600. But once you take into account the lens realignment, a D800e is about 10-15% more.

If you really want a second body to use at the same time, I'd go with either another D7000 or a D7100, since they will have either identical or almost identical control systems. But if you're really upgrading, if you were my brother, I'd advise sticking with your current D7000 until you push the limits so far that it actually limits you. Then we'd sit down and figure out what limit you hit, and what the appropriate resolution to the problem might be. That might not be a camera, it might be a lens. Or it might be a camera and other stuff. Waiting until you hit the limits is the luxury of an amateur. Pros can't afford to do this, because by definition it means missing the shot, which might be tantamount to not getting paid one day. This is my rule, and I know that I've lost relatively few shots and saved a **LOT** of money this way. I also know where the limits actually are, too. Remember that laptop I mentioned above? How many folks would have tried editing a 200mp image on a 4-year-old machine? With two layers in Photoshop? (Hint: one layer is fine, or editing in Lightroom. Two layers is NOT fine!!! Which partially explains why my primary editing system has 16GB and which will shortly upgrade to 32GB...) I don't have a D800e myself, mostly because a cold, sober analysis of my photography suggests that I need it only two or three times a year, so I either borrow or rent one when those situations arise. At this rate I may be able to hold out until the D900 or D4x.

Of course, there's no reason that if you want a D600 or D800(e), just get one. I'm got NAS like everyone else here - I just fight it a little more. And I try to lend that experience to others.

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