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Is Nikon Telling Us That D800E Is Not A Good Choice For...

MotoMannequin

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"RE: Is Nikon Telling Us That D800E Is Not A Good Choice For Landscapes?"

MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Wed 21-Mar-12 05:02 PM

>In the article I cited Nikon mentions "studio, commercial
>and still life" photographers as those who will benefit
>from the E. Landscape photographers are not mentioned. Have
>Nikon recommended the E for landscape photographers in another
>publication? I am certainly not saying that Nikon knows
>nothing about landscape photography. My comments are based on
>the statements made by Nikon in the article I cited.

It looks like you are correct. Now I'm not sure if I've heard Nikon say D800e is useful for landscape photographers, or I made that assumption because it's been landscape photographers who've been removing their AA filters from existing cameras for years. I can't find a citation to back up my claim on Nikon's position.

>I have tried to keep the topic limited to shooting at the
>stopped down apertures and not expand it to landscape shooting
>technique.

It's interesting to discuss what exactly "diffraction limited sharpness" means. If you're going to shoot f/16 then mathematically you're limiting your sharpness and perhaps don't gain any advantage from the E. OTOH it's interesting to note, in Nikon's technical guide, they use f/22 to show the softness caused by diffraction, not f/11 or f/16. So where is the real-world limit? I've done tests on my D300 which is supposedly limited smaller than f/11, and found no perceptible softness until f/18, and found landscape details didn't really fall apart until f/22.

On your question, if you're going to shoot at f/16, might you just as well get the D800? I think it makes some sense, although in my mind the question is still about moiré, not sharpness, because you won't shoot the D800e at f/16 all the time.

>I agree with you that one should shoot at the
>widest aperture the shooting situation will allow. I use the
>hyperfocal tables for that purpose. In quite a few situations
>the use of f/11 or f/16 is indeed the right aperture.

This is a difference in philosophy for us. I never shoot hyperfocal, as I much prefer maximum sharpness in my most important foreground object and willing to trade (and actually prefer) some softness in the distance.

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