Thanks for the interest. Long story just got them downloaded yesterday then found I couldnt post photos unless I was a paid member. I'll have to set that up then I'll post the pictures.
Now that I have your attention I hope they dont entirely disappoint. Im still in that what am I doing wrong phase. Part of it may be more camera setup, some may be lost technique. I think that though my heart was in the right place, trying to learn with manual lenses might be the problem. I may need at least one good auto lens to get me started.