I like too much this lens to let it go without being a regular on my gear...
But what about filters on it?
Well, I have worked with Lee filters and I sorted this solution.
I believe it's not the final solution, but it allows me to work to 17mm (FX) with filters.
#2. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 1Sat 26-Apr-08 11:21 PM | edited Sat 26-Apr-08 11:23 PM by PedroS
Ok, here are my findings and a DIY.
As you know this lens doesn't have a direct fit to put filters, and has the hood as a part of the lens. I always try the other way to solve my problems in photography, and this lens poses a special one to use filters.
So I started with a Lee push holder, designed to this lens, it means with a diameter of 9,8mm. Now using the different heights of the hood parts, I push the holder until it touches the small parts. This is very important so the holder could be well fixed. Then with small washers I filled up the space until the filter carrier just clears the big parts (please refer to the photos). This is critical, too much washers and vignetting increases, too few and we risk to damage the filters. Once the height was established (10mm) I turn to my lathe and made four dural spacers. Some effect but nicer.
And what about results?
Well I found mixed ones...
With DX format no vignetting at all
With 5:4 format vignetting from 14 to 16mm
With FX format vignetting from 14 to 17mm
Being not yet the final solution, it's already very good and useful. Please be aware that with Lee filters they are working on their limit, these filters are 10mm wide and the lens 9,8mm !!
Price could be an issue, because these special made push-on Lee holders are expensive.
With this system I'm already thinking of adapting on this holder bigger filters, namely 150x150mm ones.
#4. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 2jeverton Nikonian since 03rd Sep 2007Tue 13-May-08 12:55 AM
Looks like a very good solution! I'm curious in the actual cost for the push-on Lee holder and your research with the 150x150mm filers. Did this resolve your vignetting?
>Price could be an issue, because these special made push-on
>Lee holders are expensive.
>With this system I'm already thinking of adapting on this
>holder bigger filters, namely 150x150mm ones.
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#5. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 4Mon 23-Jun-08 08:48 AM | edited Mon 23-Jun-08 08:49 AM by PedroS
Sorry for my late answer...
Cost could be an issue because the holder would be around 100+ euros.
I have not yet came to my lathe to make the necessary spare parts to adapt the bigger 150x150mm filters.
When I'll have it done I'll post it here.
But I believe it will solve the vigneting problem...let's see.
#6. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 5lovemy8514 Registered since 05th Oct 2007Tue 24-Jun-08 05:19 PM
I would think that stepping down the aperture to maximize DOF (landscape shots) would yield less vignetting. I'm wondering at what f/stop vignetting would be completely eliminated on an FX sensor, if it is even theoretically possible to eliminate it.
I can't image that a filter company isn't working on a custom filter holder for this particular lens.
If there was a definite solution it would save me the cost of a separate 12-24mm for landscape. Surely, even a custom filter holder for this one lens would be less than the 12-24. Then again, maybe not if I have to buy a whole new set of larger filters?
Nice work on the adapter.
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#7. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 0
I thought about using the DIY holder, especially for filter combos eg. nd + nd grad but since i had cokin Z-pro series holder and filters i should buy new holder etc, theoretically damage the lens housing finish and still end up with vignetting at <17mm, so i decided to go with the hand holding filters as i didi in most cases anyways . The problem is that Z-pro series filters don't cover entire frame (sides) at 14mm.
My question would be wich filters do you use (hand held) in order to get full coverage of frame @ 14mm, I think cokin x-pro series might do the trick (CLICK 4 Cokin system pic), maybe singh-ray custom (bigger) filter would (CLICK 4 Singh-ray page), or does somone even use "non plexi" or "non-glass" by wich i mean "flexible plastic" or "gel filters like" filters (nd grads, not nds or correction etc filters). Since with these big filters price is not negligible, maybe a price advice would be nice too .
thnx a bunch
#8. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 7blw Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004Sat 29-Nov-08 12:34 AM
I thought about those too. I have no indication, though, that the X-pro size ones are different than the P-series NDs. I have the P-series Cokins and they have a horrible colour cast. I'll only try the X-size ones if they are cast-free.
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#9. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 8Sat 29-Nov-08 06:52 AM
>I thought about those too. I have no indication, though,
>that the X-pro size ones are different than the P-series NDs.
>I have the P-series Cokins and they have a horrible colour
>cast. I'll only try the X-size ones if they are cast-free.
I'm afraid not...
That's why I don't use anymore the Cokin ones.
I have tried with the 15x15 handheld and they are a good solution, but the hold system is heavy and too big. So I'm using the 10x15, on 17mm.
Thanks for all of your inputs.
#10. "RE: Filters on a Nikkor 14-24 f2.8" | In response to Reply # 8mihaaa Registered since 09th Nov 2006Mon 26-Jan-09 08:08 PM
I tryed the X-pro cokin nd grad on my 14-24 f2.8 and it coveres all the frame (on a full frame), so there is no problem there
although the filter coveres entire hood I repeatedly had reflections in the filter from the light that came in at the sides, this reflections summed cover almost 1 third @14mm (the hood has some sort of "cut-outs", don't know the proper naming, in order to prevent vignetting, so it doesn't form a circle at the outer part, I tryed (just in cas it might work) duct taping the "side cut-out hood holes" but that naturally eneded with vignetting..
I tryed a ribbon-plastic-strech out hood filter holder as well, Cokin produced (usually used on movie cameras) and it seemed to work, but was quite bulky and pricy,... I was thinking of attachiing some sort of black textile light impenetrable sleve, or a socket, that would be covering the edges of the filter end would strech onto a lens (therefore prevent any light to enter) but haven't came to it,.. and am not sure how to really attach the textile to the filter..
If anyone has any idea or has come upone some nice DIY tutorial please let him step forward