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helmdr

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helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Wed 15-May-13 04:22 PM

I recently started using the AF-on Tecnique and unless I am missing something this Technique makes no sense when using a tripod and or remote release. I then set up a custom bank for hand-held with AF-on and custom bank B for tripod and remote release where the shutter button actuates the autofocus.

Is this what most do? Any reason for AF- on for other than hand held?

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TiggerGTO

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#1. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 0

TiggerGTO Gold Member Nikonian since 22nd Feb 2006
Wed 15-May-13 02:57 PM

The only time I turn off "AF-On only" is when I am shooting macro. Most of the time when I have my camera mounted on a tripod it is for landscape. I still use "AF-On only" because that is the way I am used to thinking about focus activation, especially if I plan to recompose after focusing.

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helmdr

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#2. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 1

helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Wed 15-May-13 03:04 PM

thanks Danny, in fact i was investigating a bit more after I posted this and you are correct, it also makes sense to use with the tripod in landscape also.

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ScottChapin

Powder Springs/ATL, US
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#3. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 2

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Wed 15-May-13 03:19 PM

FWIW. I keep the AF-ON setting in my menu so I can quickly turn it off and on without going into the settings banks. When I hand my camera off to the less informed, I turn it off.

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mklass

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#4. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 3

mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006
Wed 15-May-13 07:16 PM | edited Wed 15-May-13 07:17 PM by mklass

>When I hand my camera off to the less informed, I turn it off.

Scott,

So you'll be giving you camera to me?

I agree, once you get used to using AF-On, there is little reason not to keep using it. Fast action sports, with constant subject changes might be one.

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ScottChapin

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#5. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 4

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Wed 15-May-13 08:25 PM

MIck,

LOL...you don't qualify as the less informed, my wife does!

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mklass

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#6. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 5

mklass Platinum Member As a semi-professional involved in all manner of photographic genres including portraiture, sports, commercial, and events coverage, Mick is always ready to help Nikonians by sharing his deep knowledge of photography and printing. Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 08th Dec 2006
Wed 15-May-13 08:57 PM

Scott,

I hope she doesn't read these forums!

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K64drb

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#7. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 0

K64drb Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2012
Thu 16-May-13 03:29 PM

I use the AF-On only pretty much exclusively. Hand held or tripod - makes no difference. That way, focus and shutter release are always two separate thought processes and actions on my part, which gives me the level of control I want.

As an example, on a long exposure on a tripod, normally I need to close the eyepiece shutter first to block extraneous light from the meter. But before I close it, I want to know that I have locked the focus, and when I press the shutter there is no chance of the focus changing since I can no longer see through the viewfinder.

There can be situations where using the shutter to do both is needed, like capturing timid wildlife that will not come if I am around. I set up on a tripod, hide somewhere with a wireless remote, and wait for the animal to come into the frame. Unless I know in advance exactly what distance they will be from the camera at that point, then I do want to focus and release the shutter with a single press of the button. But these are by far the exceptions.

And finally knowing me, if I started mixing the occasional use of the shutter doing both, I would end up screwing the focus up - forgetting that the camera will refocus when I press the shutter, because I am so used to the AF-On only method. I need to keep it simple!

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helmdr

Houston, US
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#8. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 7

helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Fri 17-May-13 10:09 AM

I want to thank everyone for their comments. I am heading out for a month long trip on Monday with my D800. 2.5 weeks will be for picture taking and 1.5 for work . Been practicing the af-on tecnique for the last week. Hopefully have it under control. Still have a few questions, but hopefully with experience they will be answered. One though I am not sure of.

In Live View, does it work the same? Do I need to press the ad-on to focus?

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NetWalker37

AU
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#9. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 8

NetWalker37 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2009
Sat 18-May-13 06:52 AM

Any ideas on why you can still take a pic with D800 without focus being achieved using AF-ON? Can not do it on my D7000.

Cheers...

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ScottChapin

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#10. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 9

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Sat 18-May-13 07:28 AM

There are settings to control that. You choose which way you want.

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NetWalker37

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#11. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 10

NetWalker37 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2009
Sat 18-May-13 11:31 AM

>There are settings to control that. You choose which way you
>want.

Hmmm, heads back to the books...unless you want to share

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helmdr

Houston, US
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#12. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 10

helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Sat 18-May-13 11:34 AM

Netwalker, not sure I understand your question, but if you as an example, press ad-on then recompose or otherwise move the camera, the camera will not refocus unless you press the af-on button again. the picture will be taken whether you refocus or not assuming your shutter is in release.

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ScottChapin

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#13. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 11

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Sat 18-May-13 11:41 AM | edited Sat 18-May-13 11:45 AM by ScottChapin

I'll check out the camera or manual when I get home and let you know. I leave mine set with release priority on so it will take a picture without a confirmed focus. Since I use AF-ON only, I confirm focus in the viewfinder myself, knowing that the shutter release will not alter the focus.

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helmdr

Houston, US
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#14. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 12

helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Sat 18-May-13 11:44 AM

netwalker, my settings for ad-on are

set button on camera body to AF-C (S,9,21, or 3d your choice

set custom settings bank a4 AF activation to AF-ON only
set custom settings bank a1 to Release


Hope that helps

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helmdr

Houston, US
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#15. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 14

helmdr Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Sat 18-May-13 11:52 AM

Also here is a link I got from one of the other forums here that is very good

http://apple-and-eve.co.za/2013/01/using-the-af-on-focussing-technique-with-the-nikon-d800/

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ScottChapin

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#16. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 11

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Sat 18-May-13 11:55 AM | edited Sat 18-May-13 12:49 PM by ScottChapin

OK, I found it in my iPhone copy of the manual, which is hard to do. Check out setting a2 on page 282 or in your camera's custom settings. You can select to release whether in focus, or release only when focus is confirmed.

Edited to add: This is for single servo. I think focus confirmation in continuous mode is an excercize in futility, but that's my bias.

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NetWalker37

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#17. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 15

NetWalker37 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2009
Sat 18-May-13 01:06 PM

Cheers,

Still looks like you can fire where focused or not. Not a big deal tho.

Paul...

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NetWalker37

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#18. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 14

NetWalker37 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2009
Sat 18-May-13 01:10 PM

Yep, that's what I had set as well.

Paul...

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JCY88

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#19. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 18

JCY88 Registered since 24th Aug 2012
Sun 19-May-13 08:57 PM

Is there a way, without using Manu, to quickly switch to shuttle AF, when handed it to someone else to take a shot?

ScottChapin

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#20. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 19

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Sun 19-May-13 10:25 PM

Not that I'm aware of, though My Menu is fairly quick.

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Sixmileman

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#21. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 0

Sixmileman Registered since 06th Mar 2013
Sun 19-May-13 10:47 PM

I use AF-On (back button AF) all the time for wildlife photography on a tripod with a gimbal head. I can follow a critter with the gimbal while keeping the AF-on depressed until I am ready to release the shutter. I think the answer to your question (whether it is better / easier to use AF-on or not) depends largely on what you're shooting and how.

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#22. "RE: AF-ON" | In response to Reply # 21

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Thu 30-May-13 12:37 PM

I use AF-ON all the time and AF-C.
Especially when I hand off the camera.

Surprise, just tell them to press and hold down the AF-ON first,
then they will get what they see in the viewfinder.
Their keeper rate will be much higher.

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jim thomas

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#23. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 3

jim thomas Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Jan 2003
Fri 31-May-13 12:13 AM

What does it mean to "keep it in my menu"?

JDT

ScottChapin

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#24. "RE: AF-on" | In response to Reply # 23

ScottChapin Moderator Awarded for his high level skills in various areas, including Aviation and Birds Photography Charter Member
Fri 31-May-13 06:32 AM

You can select custom and shooting menu items that you use frequently and place them in "My Menu". These items can be quickly set by going into My Menu, instead of diving into the long lists in the custom and shooting menus.

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johnsmurray

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#25. "RE: AF-ON" | In response to Reply # 22

johnsmurray Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Nov 2012
Fri 31-May-13 01:13 PM

I'm still fairly new to these forums, and with my D800 too...

This has to be one of the best techniques I've come across (I know it's not a new technique). I've got to grips with it really quickly and my focusing has improved no end. Thanks guys.

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larsch01

Los Angeles, US
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#26. "RE: AF-ON" | In response to Reply # 25

larsch01 Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Feb 2009
Fri 31-May-13 08:12 PM

I've started using the AF-ON for focus and really like it, although I have to admit that sometimes my finger strays to the shutter release before I realize that the camera is not not going to focus that way.

Larry

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