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D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use

jwstl

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jwstl Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Feb 2013
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:52 PM

A question for those of you using the D800/e, MB-D12, and tripods. I need to buy an RRS L-Plate and I'm curious if you keep the grip on when you put the D800 on a tripod. I'm thinking I'll keep the grip on to get the extra battery power for using the Live View despite the extra weight. Your thoughts? Do you use the grip on a tripod? Do you use the grip at all?

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MEMcD

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#1. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 0

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:19 PM

Hi John,

My D800 always has the MB-D12 and L-Bracket attached to it.
My D700, D300, and D200 also have L-Brackets and Grips mounted 24/7/365.
The only time they come apart it when I clean them.

Best Regards,
Marty

GregTS

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#2. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 1

GregTS Registered since 02nd Mar 2013
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:23 PM

Hi John,

I'll echo MEMcD - grip and RRS L-bracket(or bracket of your choice) mounted 24/7

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jwstl

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#3. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 2

jwstl Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Feb 2013
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:28 PM

Thanks for the answers. With regards to this comment "The only time they come apart is when I clean them."
If you use 2 batteries wouldn't you need to remove them to swap out the camera battery? Or do you just use the MB-D12 battery and swap that out when you need a change? Or is the battery so good you rarely need to change during a day's worth of shooting?

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GregTS

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#4. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 3

GregTS Registered since 02nd Mar 2013
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:39 PM

No of course they would come apart when you want a fully charged pair of batteries. Since I've only had the D800 about a month I haven't run into that situation yet. I simply meant to say that I could't think of any other reasons to remove the MB-D12.

Shooting hand held I really like the way the D800 with grip feels in my hands. Very much like my F5.


Also, if you remove the battery grip, you'll need a different L-bracket (at least with the RRS)if you want to still use a tripod.

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mwhals

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#5. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 0

mwhals Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Apr 2004
Thu 18-Apr-13 07:46 PM

My grip with L bracket stays on my D200 and I am going to do the same with the D800. The one thing I wish Nikon had kept was the ability for the grip to handle both batteries like my D200 grip.

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MEMcD

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#6. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 3

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Thu 18-Apr-13 08:55 PM

Hi John,

I don't use an internal battery in any of them.
I use EN-EL18 batteries in the MB-D12 and EN-EL4/a batteries in the MB-D10.
Even a single EN-EL15 will provide about 2500 images per charge.
I usually get over 40000 images per charge on the D800E with an EN-EL18 and about 5000 or so on the D700 and D300. The D200 with 2 EN-EL3e's is a battery hog. I get about 700 or so images per two batteries.
I don't chimp very much.

Best Regards,
Marty

MEMcD

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#7. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 5

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Thu 18-Apr-13 09:00 PM

Hi Mark,

The D200 is a battery pig.
It drinks batteries faster than any other body I have used.
The D800 is much more efficient.

Best Regards,
Marty

liamtoh1ps

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#8. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 0

liamtoh1ps Registered since 17th Apr 2012
Thu 18-Apr-13 10:42 PM

John,

I have a 3rd party grip (purchased a month or so ago) on my D800 and I never take it off. I have a the L-bracket which is also permanently mounted with the grip.

The only time, I remember taking it off was when I went to see a NHL game, so the camera looks less professional / less hassle with the security.

Pravin.

JimH

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#9. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 0

JimH Silver Member Charter Member
Thu 18-Apr-13 10:44 PM

If your worried about battery reserves keep the grip on. If your looking to get the sharpest images out of the D800 while using a tripod. Get the L-Bracket for use with "out" the grip.

There is a small amount of flex or give between the camera body and grip. So mounting the L-bracket directly to the body eliminates that. Plus the keeping the physical location of the image sensor as close to the fixing point as possible, reduces the effects of other outside forces that act on the camera body and lens.

The D800 is known to be touchy on a tripod. I've seen it first hand. I too had to make the same decision as to which RRS L-bracket I should purchase for my D800e. Though I'd prefer to have the L-bracket that goes right on the grip & body, I decided to get the bracket for the body only, to help eliminate the problems that one can run into when using their camera on a tripod.

Jim H.

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jwstl

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#10. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 9

jwstl Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Feb 2013
Fri 19-Apr-13 03:12 PM

>If your worried about battery reserves keep the grip on. If
>your looking to get the sharpest images out of the D800 while
>using a tripod. Get the L-Bracket for use with "out"
>the grip.
>
>There is a small amount of flex or give between the camera
>body and grip. So mounting the L-bracket directly to the body
>eliminates that. Plus the keeping the physical location of the
>image sensor as close to the fixing point as possible, reduces
>the effects of other outside forces that act on the camera
>body and lens.
>
>The D800 is known to be touchy on a tripod. I've seen it first
>hand. I too had to make the same decision as to which RRS
>L-bracket I should purchase for my D800e. Though I'd prefer to
>have the L-bracket that goes right on the grip & body, I
>decided to get the bracket for the body only, to help
>eliminate the problems that one can run into when using their
>camera on a tripod.
>
>Jim H.

Thanks for the info. The fit of the grip and its use on the tripod was my biggest concern. I want to extract all the sharpness possible out of that sensor. I do like the idea of having the extra power capability but I could keep a battery in a vest pocket and easily swap it out.

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Richcower

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#11. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 10

Richcower Registered since 22nd Jan 2013
Fri 19-Apr-13 03:23 PM

I keep my grip on with the L bracket attached to it.

Dadorian

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#12. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 11

Dadorian Gold Member Nikonian since 17th Jul 2011
Thu 25-Apr-13 06:21 PM

Can I be really dumb and ask what is the L bracket you guys are referring to ?

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larsch01

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#13. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 12

larsch01 Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Feb 2009
Thu 25-Apr-13 09:55 PM | edited Thu 25-Apr-13 10:01 PM by larsch01

It's a bracket that allows you to move the camera to/from a horizontal to vertical position without removing it from your tripod.

This is a Kirk bracket for a D800. to see a larger image, use this link http://reallyrightstuff.com/ProductDesc.aspx?code=BD800-L

larry

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Magnum164

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#14. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 0

Magnum164 Silver Member Nikonian since 01st Jun 2011
Thu 25-Apr-13 10:08 PM

I use the Promediagear bracket and it stays on all of the time. Also, keep in mind depending on the photography you do you may need to mount the camera to the tripod by the lenses as opposed to the camera. For me using my Sigma 70-200, I mount the camera by the lens not the body. But, I realize you were probably refering to standard lenses and not large zooms.

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#15. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 12

nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support Registered since 25th Jul 2004
Fri 26-Apr-13 12:25 PM

A great Nikonian article by jrp on L Brackets here.

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Vlad_IT

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#16. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 9

Vlad_IT Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2011
Sun 25-Aug-13 02:21 AM | edited Sun 25-Aug-13 12:40 PM by Vlad_IT

>If your worried about battery reserves keep the grip on. If
>your looking to get the sharpest images out of the D800 while
>using a tripod. Get the L-Bracket for use with "out"
>the grip.
>
>There is a small amount of flex or give between the camera
>body and grip. So mounting the L-bracket directly to the body
>eliminates that. Plus the keeping the physical location of the
>image sensor as close to the fixing point as possible, reduces
>the effects of other outside forces that act on the camera
>body and lens.
>

I ditto that.

when doing macro I take the grip off my D7000 and put an L-bracket attached to the body directly. I see much sharper results without grip for macro(I have genue Nikon MB-D11 grip - it still flexes, the situation is much more worse with aftermarket grips).

On my soon to be D800, i'm planning not to use a grip at all, at least not at this time, as it will be only macro, landscape and event photography (on events I always use custom bracket Pro-M and SB-910/SB-800 attached).

On my D7000 I carry grip all of time, but the macro and event photography. I found that L-bracket on the grip almost never get used, so I replaced it with a plate. Plate does not take as much space, allows me to attached extra connector from my sling type strap, (also plate is convenient for seldom use with a tripod with 11-16 lens or more often with a monopod (Q3 head) and any of my normal lenses - 35 1.8, 50 1.8, 85 1.8 and 18-200 VR II. All other times I attached the monopod directly to the color of the lens.

All my telephoto lenses have lens collar and L-plate on the grip does not play any practical role.

what works for me best is L-bracket for the body and the simple plate for the grip.

Thanks, Vlad

P.S. the biggest need for L-bracket on the grip I see for a wedding/event photographer, who uses RRS wedding flash bracket.

OMMBoy

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#17. "RE: D800, MB-D12, and Tripod Use" | In response to Reply # 13

OMMBoy Registered since 22nd Feb 2007
Sun 25-Aug-13 05:23 AM | edited Sun 25-Aug-13 05:34 AM by OMMBoy

Actually, that's not quite accurate, Larry. The camera must be removed from the clamp (which is attached to the tripod), rotated, then reattached.

Normally, if you wanted to go from a horizontal setup with your tripod-mounted camera to a vertical setup, you would need to loosen the tripod head, pivot it and the camera, reposition, and then recompose the shot because everything has been moved and shifted. This could take up to two minutes and you could miss valuable opportunities to get "the shot."

With an L-bracket and accompanying clamp, you would clamp in the camera, position and compose your shot and shoot away. To go from, say, horizontal to vertical, you would release the clamp (thereby releasing the grip on the L-bracket), remove the camera, rotate it to a vertical position, reseat and tighten the clamp. All this without affecting your composition. The whole process only takes a few seconds and your chances of missing "the shot" are greatly diminished!

Hope this helps!

Chris

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