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Shots that are not possible on the D800...

PerroneFord

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PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 07-Apr-12 02:20 PM

Here is a gallery link to some shots that are not possible on the D800 because of it's slow fps rate, inability to be shot handheld with good results, unsuitability as a sports camera, etc.

http://www.ptfphotoarchive.com/TUAthletics/Baseball/TU-Baseball-v-LSU-Alexandria/22315350_4mTHXF

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rbsandor

Denver, US
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#1. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

rbsandor Silver Member Nikonian since 29th Aug 2007
Sat 07-Apr-12 12:33 PM

Perrone: after viewing your gallery, please accept my heartfelt condolences and sympathy for having to subject yourself to the use of such an obviously inferior product. If I were in your shoes, I'd chuck the darn thing!! Richard

PS: please feel free to chuck it my way. I'll pay the shipping.

PerroneFord

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#2. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 1

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 07-Apr-12 01:00 PM

Thank you brother. You may also find the following sad images suitable for viewing.

http://www.ptfphotoarchive.com/FSUAthletics/SandVolleyball/FSU-Sand-Volleyball-v-Hawaii/22184051_9PKbNx


I can't understand why anyone would even THINK about using a D800 outside of a studio or off a tripod.

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duh59

Rochester, US
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#3. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

duh59 Silver Member Charter Member
Sat 07-Apr-12 12:56 PM

Perrone, thanks for all the information you have provided on the D800. I am waiting on delivery of mine, hopefully in the next week or two.
I have used film and digital cameras for sports and hand held pictures and I adjusted to the frame rate and other camera limitations (also my limitations) to get the pictures that the customer required. Would I like a high. ( 4+ ) frame rate, yes - would I use a high frame rate, sometime - do I need a high frame , no. Thats just my take on fps, I think I will be satisfied with having 4fps. Others my need more , if so buy a camera with more.

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PerroneFord

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#4. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 3

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 07-Apr-12 01:04 PM

I hear ya. But as viewers go through these images, I'd like them to keep something in mind. NONE of these images are shot on motor drive. These are all single shot. And it goes back to my thoughts on shooter vs camera. If you know how to shoot, the D800 is a FINE camera. Clearly it's not perfect. But if you can't get compelling photos with it, check your ego at the door and examine your technique.



>Perrone, thanks for all the information you have provided on
>the D800. I am waiting on delivery of mine, hopefully in the
>next week or two.
>I have used film and digital cameras for sports and hand held
>pictures and I adjusted to the frame rate and other camera
>limitations (also my limitations) to get the pictures that the
>customer required. Would I like a high. ( 4+ ) frame rate, yes
> - would I use a high frame rate, sometime - do I need a
>high frame , no. Thats just my take on fps, I think I will be
>satisfied with having 4fps. Others my need more , if so buy a
>camera with more.

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mdonovan

Mahwah, US
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#5. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 4

mdonovan Gold Member Charter Member
Sat 07-Apr-12 04:32 PM | edited Sat 07-Apr-12 04:33 PM by mdonovan

Really nice shots amigo ...

one comment however ... if you wanted to capture a sequence of a swing ... or the entire pitching motion all the way through ... i guess the D4 would be the way to go.

again ... really nice work man.

Oh yeah .. Ill take seconds dibs on that obvious piece of junk you have been toting around. =)

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blw

Richmond, US
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#6. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 5

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Sat 07-Apr-12 08:46 PM

> i guess the D4 would be the way to go.

A D1h or D2h might do a good job too.

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rm1958

Maple Grove, US
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#7. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

rm1958 Registered since 07th Jan 2009
Sat 07-Apr-12 04:52 PM

too funny.....great shooting!

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CaptPegLeg

Kitty Hawk, US
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#8. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 7

CaptPegLeg Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Nov 2008
Sat 07-Apr-12 06:22 PM

I'm somewhat confused. Softball certainly has changed during the last 40 or so years since I played baseball.

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drseuss

Daly City, US
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#9. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

drseuss Registered since 13th Dec 2011
Sat 07-Apr-12 07:52 PM

Great pictures! I can't wait until my D800 arrives.

May I ask what lenses you used for your baseball and volleyball shoots?

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PerroneFord

Tallahassee, US
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#10. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 9

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 07-Apr-12 08:18 PM

>Great pictures! I can't wait until my D800 arrives.
>
>May I ask what lenses you used for your baseball and
>volleyball shoots?

300mm/2.8 AF-S
70-200/2.8 VR AF-S

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mikesrc

OKLAHOMA CITY, US
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#11. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 10

mikesrc Registered since 03rd May 2009
Sat 07-Apr-12 08:27 PM

From what I see I like volleyball much better than baseball!

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wfmcgrath3

Livingston, US
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#12. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 11

wfmcgrath3 Registered since 25th Feb 2012
Sun 08-Apr-12 02:26 AM

We must keep in mind that every camera is a compromise of performance attributes. Every engineering feat is a choice between conflicting parameters. If you want fast frame rates, you have to give up resolution. If you want high resolution, you have to give up speed. Noise and pixel count work in opposition to one another. If you have vastly different photography needs, you need more than one camera. Nikon obviously built the D4 and the D800 for different applications. If you can have only one camera, you will have to choose one whose performance specs fall somewhere in the middle - a compromise. It makes no sense to judge a camera's performance in an application for which it was not designed. Why do you think there is a D3x and a D3s?

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Clint S

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#13. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 12

Clint S Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd Jan 2011
Sun 08-Apr-12 03:57 AM

in the end it's all about marketing and getting your money, we have to decide what works best for us.

Skill and knowledge are your best tools. They can overcome many limitations of equipment, whether those limitations are placed by the manufacture or the consumer. Which I think is the point of Perrone's post.

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km6xz

St Petersburg, RU
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#14. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Sun 08-Apr-12 01:30 PM

Naw...,I am waiting for the high speed bikini model shoot results from last week....surely those will be revealing about just how slow and blurry D800 images will be.
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PerroneFord

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#15. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 14

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sun 08-Apr-12 04:11 PM

Well, I don't know about high-speed bikini's, but these girls were moving pretty fast...

http://goo.gl/J0Ap3



>Naw...,I am waiting for the high speed bikini model shoot
>results from last week....surely those will be revealing about
>just how slow and blurry D800 images will be.
>Stan
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Ferguson

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#16. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 0

Ferguson Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for the generous sharing of his high level expertise in the spirit of Nikonians Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004
Sun 08-Apr-12 02:49 PM

Perrone, do you consider imitation a form of flattery? I hope so. Finding absolutely nothing interesting yesterday at the beach to shoot, and needing something to do with the new camera, your shots combined with a flyer for a local minor leage team, and I went last night to shoot some evening baseball shots. This is the first time ever shooting baseball (and only second time at a non-little-league game).

At night under lights I was shooting mostly F4 and some F2.8, and trying to keep the shutter speed up, so a lot of shots are in the 1200-3200 ISO range. Here is one at 2800 ISO, and there's quite a bit of noise in it (and a bit of action blur), but still a lot of good dynamic range left (those shadows were pretty dark, like on the ump's leg, but there's detail in them).



If anyone would like to see more (and I welcome criticism of how to shoot sports):

http://www.captivephotons.com/Events/MiraclevStoneCrabs

And Perrone, again, hope you don't mind someone climbing on board, your work makes it look like so much fun, I'm going virtually behind you to try similar things. Thank you.





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PerroneFord

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#17. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 16

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sun 08-Apr-12 04:16 PM | edited Sun 08-Apr-12 04:19 PM by PerroneFord

Cool man!

Why would I mind someone shooting and having fun? Isn't that what we are SUPPOSED to be doing?

Take this young lady for instance...

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She is having fun. The girl behind her.. not so much!

(shot this past Friday at a college Softball game)

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johno

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#18. "RE: Shots that are not possible on the D800..." | In response to Reply # 17

johno Silver Member Nikonian since 23rd May 2006
Mon 09-Apr-12 04:52 AM

Nice post.

I too paid no attention to FPS Lamentations.

I got by with an all manual Pentax when I shot pictures for the small-town paper in high school. They weren't all good, but I always came out of the darkroom with an image they could publish.

If I were a pro sports photographer especially shooting hockey i might want 10 FPS. But I could get by with four if I had to.

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