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D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO

Fovea

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Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Fri 23-Mar-12 05:04 PM

For anybody who is interested, I have posted few comparison shots on my blog

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#1. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

pjr Registered since 26th Dec 2005
Fri 23-Mar-12 04:12 PM

Interesting results, Dinil, and very impressive - the D800 is an awesome camera! I like the blog, too!
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#2. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 1

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Sat 24-Mar-12 08:41 AM

Thanks Phil, it is definitely an awesome camera.
Glad you liked the bolg!

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#3. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

DMCdigitalmedia Registered since 04th Jan 2007
Fri 23-Mar-12 04:31 PM

Nice post, thanks for sharing - question...was white balance on Auto for those ? Any Post production sharpening ?


It seems the 800 shots have less magenta and maybe a bit more green - similar to what I get out of my D2Xs. I cant wait to try an 800 to see what the colors are like, it always felt to me the latest versions of Nikons are a bit magenta hued as compared to the D200/D2Xs generation which i prefer for color rendition.

Thanks again for the post and enjoy the D800 !

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Fovea

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#4. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 3

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Sat 24-Mar-12 08:48 AM

Thanks for looking Dennis, and you are most welcome!
All the cropped images illustrating ISO noise (or lack of) have been converted via ACR with absolutely NO sharpening applied.

Images with my copyright logo have been exported via Lightroom and standard sharpening has been applied.

Interesting observation on colour! I have to do bit more controlled testing before commenting!

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#5. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

LMMiller9 Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2005
Fri 23-Mar-12 05:19 PM

Nice test comparisons. I don't think anyone can argue that the D800 ISO performance is worse than the D700. It may be slightly better. My criteria for buying this camera, long before it came out, was "give me the same ISO performance as the D700, plus a higher pixel count (I was thinking 16 to 24mgpx) and it would be worth the purchase. They did that, plus the video.

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#6. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 5

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Sat 24-Mar-12 08:49 AM

Video is something I cannot get my head around

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#7. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 6

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 24-Mar-12 11:10 AM

>Video is something I cannot get my head around

It's 24, 25, or 30 2MP still frames per second.


Does that help?

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Fovea

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#8. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 7

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Sun 25-Mar-12 12:44 AM | edited Mon 26-Mar-12 11:54 AM by Fovea

Sure
When Nikon first introduced video in a D-SLR with D90, which was followed by Canon's 5D that ended up becoming the 'standard', the only thing that changed was the ability to use a 'still camera' for high quality video capturing.

This "new ability" did not change the art, science or the craft of capturing motion graphics, which of course has it's roots in photography.
As a keen student of the art and science of photography I have an immense respect for motion graphics. There are times I sit down and advance Kurosawa's Seven Samurai and Bergman's Seventh Seal, frame by frame, to get inspiration for my still graphics and to try and understand how a master goes about practicing his craft!

When it comes to motion graphics, the extra dimensions added by motion, sound and the extraordinary teamwork that is needed to pull off a project, have not changed simply because camera manufacturers added video recording to D-SLRs.

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#9. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

andrewwx Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Aug 2008
Sat 24-Mar-12 09:43 AM

Thanks for helping with your well thought out analysis.

I initially was upset about how different the D800 was from the D4, but thanks to posts like this I feel confident that the D800 will work for me with no D4 regrets and 3000 extra dollars in my pocket.

Now if Nikon would only give me a 21st century 16mm FX full frame fisheye. I will be a happy man.

Cheers

Andrew

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#10. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 9

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Mon 26-Mar-12 07:29 AM

Isn't this close enough to the 21st century ?

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#11. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

DVDMike Registered since 25th Mar 2003
Sat 24-Mar-12 10:13 AM


Thanks for sharing.

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#12. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 11

DiamondPhotography Registered since 29th Dec 2010
Sat 24-Mar-12 11:28 AM | edited Sun 25-Mar-12 05:23 AM by DiamondPhotography

Thanks, noise levels look pretty damn good !

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andersnordh

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#13. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 0

andersnordh Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Mar 2008
Mon 26-Mar-12 07:47 AM | edited Mon 26-Mar-12 07:52 AM by andersnordh

Hi, as I understand you first down sample the image to D700 size before cropping to 100%? If so I kind of think that you loose the possibility to use the nice high resolution of the new pixel monster while shooting at high ISO or at least the comparison will be wrong. What does it look like straight out of the D800 without any re-sampling? Maybe you could give us an example of that as well?

Have a nice day!

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#14. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 13

andersnordh Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Mar 2008
Mon 26-Mar-12 08:22 AM

>Maybe you could give us
>an example of that as well?

Hi again, what I am looking for is something like the example in my attached file.

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#15. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 14

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Mon 26-Mar-12 09:32 AM

Anders

All the images from the D700 are 4,256 pixels x 2,832 pixels on a 36.0mm x 23.9mm sensor. The D800 has an image measuring 7,360 pixels x 4,912 pixels on a sensor 35.9mm x 24mm. Both are FX sensors so there is no crop factor as there would be on DX. The DX crop on the D800 is to the DX sensor size - 4,800 pixels x 3,200 pixels.

The framing of the image through the lens on a D700 is the same as the D800, so to get a smaller crop of an image using a D700 you need to move closer or change lenses.

If you want to look at the performance of individual pixels, essentially you are wanting to look at something smaller than a DX crop on the D800.

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Fovea

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#16. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 15

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Mon 26-Mar-12 11:50 AM

Thanks for that Eric, you beat me to it

Perhaps Anders is talking about the magnification level on the monitor as opposed to magnification due to sensor size??
Assuming that is what he is referring to, the larger D800 file at same pixel dimensions at the same shooting distance should yield a smaller crop compared to D700!

But that is what you've mentioned in your last sentence, and I have intentionally avoided going there thinking it wouldn't make any real world difference.

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#17. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 13

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Mon 26-Mar-12 11:31 AM

Hi Anders..

>>as I understand you first down sample the image to D700 size before cropping to 100%?

Nope, may be you have got confused because the third image under the heading "High ISO and Low Light Performance (vs D700)" was down sampled to D700 resolution, but it is clearly labelled as such.

Everything else, as explained on the blog post and as labelled, are crops from files at native resolution and 100% magnification.

Just as you wanted...

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#18. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 17

andersnordh Silver Member Nikonian since 17th Mar 2008
Mon 26-Mar-12 01:26 PM

Hi and thanks everybody. Then I am absolutely certain that I actually know what I am looking at.

Then it looks pretty good ... ... I guess I will surrender to the the new 36 MP monster later this summer but still keep my D700 as spare and as an extra body for longer lenses ...

Thanks for sharing your test shots!

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#19. "RE: D800 High ISO Vs D700 High ISO" | In response to Reply # 18

Fovea Gold Member Nikonian since 26th Sep 2002
Mon 26-Mar-12 02:27 PM

You are most welcome!
If Nikon implement the same sensor technology to D300 replacement, it will definitely be a better body for your long lenses!

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