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Bracketing on the D800

Swetz

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Swetz Registered since 26th Feb 2006
Mon 14-May-12 01:30 AM

I just got my D800 after a 6 week wait from my local camera store. I upgraded from a D300. while it looks like a great camera I was disappointed in seeing that I can only adjust bracketing by up to 1 EV steps. For HDR I prefer to bracket by 2EV, I know I can do that by taking 5 shots instead of 3 but with 36MP I would rather not waste taking the additional 72MP. I know I can delete them in camera or after I download them but that is a pain.

Anyone else like to see 2EV steps in the bracketing? I would have thought that Nikon would have gotten this fixed by now.

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Antero52

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#1. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 0

Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009
Mon 14-May-12 04:05 AM

Agreed. I've made killing the even-numbered shots easier by setting the camera to shoot low-normal-high, instead of the default normal-first series.

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#2. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 0

ljordan316 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2010
Tue 15-May-12 05:43 AM

If you use CS5 or CS6 to merge the frames, you will find having all of the 1EV increment frames good for selecting the ghost removal frame. Some ghost-removal frame selections will cause color banding or artifacts. I went from shooting 7-9 frames with a D300 to shooting 5-7 frames with the D800 because it has a higher dynamic range. I almost always delete or turn off the longest exposure frame due to artifacts, but I often use all of the rest.

You just simply have more choices when you get 1EV increment.

If you use Photomatix, it may not matter. However, I have found my results sharper with CS5 and CS6.

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MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Tue 15-May-12 02:03 PM

>Anyone else like to see 2EV steps in the bracketing?

Pretty much everybody. Nikon continues to drop the ball on this one.

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RidgesPhoto

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RidgesPhoto Registered since 10th May 2012
Tue 15-May-12 02:37 PM

Yet, they know people want it because they included it on the D4. Is bracketing greater that 1EV a "Pro" feature?? I'm sure more D800's will be used for HDR than D4's. Go figure.

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MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Tue 15-May-12 04:37 PM

>they included it on the
>D4. Is bracketing greater that 1EV a "Pro"
>feature??

Add to that list... D7000, D5100, D5000, D90, D80, D70, D50 (although these allow only 3 shots, ±2EV I actually prefer this to what the "pro" bodies do)

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Testing123

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#6. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 0

Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Wed 16-May-12 02:25 PM

Hi Steve,
Do you shoot your bracketed shots with one press of the shutter release or multiple presses (one press for each shot in the bracketed sequence)?
If one press (does the entire sequence), how are you setting up the D800 to accomplish this?

Thanks,
Allen

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ljordan316

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ljordan316 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2010
Wed 16-May-12 02:54 PM

Why not use a cable release? You set the number of bracket shots you want, then just press and hold the cable release button until all frames fire. Simple.

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RidgesPhoto

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#8. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 6

RidgesPhoto Registered since 10th May 2012
Wed 16-May-12 03:32 PM

>Hi Steve,
>Do you shoot your bracketed shots with one press of the
>shutter release or multiple presses (one press for each shot
>in the bracketed sequence)?
>If one press (does the entire sequence), how are you setting
>up the D800 to accomplish this?
>
>Thanks,
>Allen

Yes and no . If I use my remote shutter release, I set the advance to CH and then just hold down the shutter button one time. The camera will fire off the set.

If I'm not using the remote release, I'm either a) shooting at fast enough shutter speeds that I don't have to worry about camera shake and will just manually hold the shutter in CH. I do this a lot now that the auto align in Photomatix has gotten so good. b) use the interval shooting timer to have the camera fire off the bracket set with 1 sec between each shot. This works fine but there are a lot of button presses to enable the interval feature.

Testing123

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#9. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 7

Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Wed 16-May-12 06:09 PM

>Why not use a cable release? You set the number of bracket
>shots you want, then just press and hold the cable release
>button until all frames fire. Simple.

Ah, didn't know this worked. Will give it a try, thanks!

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Testing123

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Wed 16-May-12 06:21 PM

>If I'm not using the remote release, I'm either a) shooting at
>fast enough shutter speeds that I don't have to worry about
>camera shake and will just manually hold the shutter in CH. I
>do this a lot now that the auto align in Photomatix has gotten
>so good.

I have yet to use Photomatix, but holding the shutter release button down scares me a bit due to camera shake. I'll defer to your experience with it, though.

>b) use the interval shooting timer to have the camera
>fire off the bracket set with 1 sec between each shot. This
>works fine but there are a lot of button presses to enable the
>interval feature.

Yes, I've seen this done by Trey Ratcliff using a D3x. However, he now uses a D800 and uses Self Timer (on the release mode dial). It is this that I thought you may have been using and was wondering how you set it up.

(In case you're wondering, someone has already written him, asking how he's doing it. No response yet.)

Thanks again to you and Larry for your help!

Regards,
Allen

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Testing123

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Wed 16-May-12 06:40 PM

Steve,
I forgot to mention a possible solution to your original post.
The Promote Control is an advanced remote system for DSLR's that I think will do what you are asking.
It's not cheap ($329+) unfortunately.
Here's the link: http://www.promotesystems.com/products/Promote-Control.html

I also see smart phone apps popping up that allow the phone (or iPad, etc.) to act as remote shutter releases. That might be a cheaper way to achieve what you're after.

HTH...

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ljordan316

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#12. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 11

ljordan316 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2010
Wed 16-May-12 10:05 PM

A Nikon cable release cost under $35. I have two because I tend to step on them while ferrying my tripod/camera to a new shooting spot.

Don't get the Chinese knockoff versions through eBay. They are often DOA or die within months.

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skibud1

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#13. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 12

skibud1 Registered since 01st Apr 2012
Thu 17-May-12 11:47 PM

Another trigger option is a wireless radio trigger. Yes, I use the cheap Chinese ones (I think I have the photix brand), but this way I can trigger external flashes, and can also use it to trigger the camera shutter for self portraits (ie playing around), as well as for bracketing - and I can stand pretty far away if I want, or even get in the picture myself. A transmitter + receiver can cost below $100.

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Swetz

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Swetz Registered since 25th Feb 2006
Sat 19-May-12 12:57 AM

Good question Allen,

I have just started playing around with my D800. On my D300 I would turn bracketing and then change to continuous high so I could capture all frames with one click. I have played a bit with assigning the function button so that when I press it and the shutter it fires off a burst of the bracket shots. I think I may like that better. I moved the menu item for this feature to my menu as I also like to display the virtual horizon.

The biggest problem I have shooting HDR is forgetting I am bracketed when I want to take a single shot. Having the camera set to continuous shooting helps with this problem.

Steve
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mdonovan

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#15. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 12

mdonovan Gold Member Charter Member
Sat 19-May-12 12:28 PM | edited Sat 19-May-12 12:28 PM by mdonovan

I shoot HDRI a lot for my special FX work .. best solution I have found is using the Interval Timer Shooting.

Since I am shooting into a silver ball this allows me time to get out of the reflection.

Anyway .. the major advantage ... no touching the camera during the exposures.
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Testing123

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Sat 19-May-12 02:26 PM

>I was disappointed in seeing that I can only adjust
>bracketing by up to 1 EV steps. For HDR I prefer to bracket by 2EV...

D800 Manual, Page 135:
"The camera will vary exposure and/or flash level shot-by-shot according to the bracketing program selected. Modifications to exposure are added to those made with exposure compensation (see page 130), making it possible to achieve exposure compensation values of more than 5 EV."

I haven't played with this at all, but it might enable you to do what you need.

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Testing123

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Sat 19-May-12 02:32 PM

>I shoot HDRI a lot for my special FX work .. best solution I
>have found is using the Interval Timer Shooting.

Yes, in researching this, I found Trey Ratcliff making use of the interval timer mode. He was using this on his D3x. However, in one video, after getting his D800, he said that using self-timer was much easier and quicker than having to 'push all those buttons for interval timer'.
I believe his button pushing sequence (for interval timer) was to highlight interval timer on the menu and then press: 'right, left, up, OK'.
Don't quote me on this.

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Swetz

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#18. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 16

Swetz Registered since 25th Feb 2006
Tue 22-May-12 12:18 PM

I don't that this will help Allen, While you can get 5EV compensation, your bracketing is still set at a 1 EV max, By changing exposure compensation, you could get -2,-1, 0 instead of -1, 0,+1.

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#19. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 7

parallaxphotos Registered since 07th May 2012
Tue 22-May-12 03:32 PM

This is probably a silly question, but is there a wireless remote compatible with the d800?

parallaxphotos

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parallaxphotos Registered since 07th May 2012
Tue 22-May-12 03:35 PM

>This is probably a silly question, but is there a wireless
>remote compatible with the d800?

Maybe should have clarified, I have been looking on Nikon's website, and can't seem to find one. That can't be right, can it? Most of the lower end DSLR's are compatible with at least one IR trigger.

On an unrelated topic - $36 for a basic neckstrap? Really??

Testing123

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Tue 22-May-12 09:05 PM

>This is probably a silly question, but is there a wireless
>remote compatible with the d800?

Have a look at this thread: https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=set_threaded_mode&forum=430&page=&topic_id=5296&prev_page=show_mesg

HTH...

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laddad Gold Member Nikonian since 13th Nov 2005
Wed 23-May-12 11:14 AM | edited Wed 23-May-12 11:17 AM by laddad

Yes, I too was upset to find the the new D800 will not bracket in 2EV intervals. I'm into VR360 shoots. When I make one of these panoramas I'm forced to shoot 10 positions with 5 images at each position. If I have 2EV bracketing I would only have to shoot 30 images. It is a royal pain to remove images not needed. My expensive solution was to buy on ebay a used "Promote Controller". I now have almost unlimited backeting capability but I had to pay $180 for this feature. If you do much HDR and deal with a large number images consider the Promote Controller. It is fantastic. Nikon could have made this much easier if they had better bracketing capability.

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#23. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 17

RidgesPhoto Registered since 10th May 2012
Thu 24-May-12 06:02 PM

I've found that along with changing the delay of the self timer, you can also alter the number of exposures it takes. If you set it to 5 for example and the enable bracketing of 5 exposures, you can take all of them with a single press of the shutter button. Maybe that's what Trey is doing. Only problem for me is I sometimes shoot 7 or 9 exposure brackets so I have yo remember to change the timer as well.

D800 and a bunch of glass that cost way more than my wife thinks it did.

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Testing123 Silver Member Nikonian since 25th Jan 2009
Fri 25-May-12 03:15 AM

>I've found that along with changing the delay of the self
>timer, you can also alter the number of exposures it takes. If
>you set it to 5 for example and the enable bracketing of 5
>exposures, you can take all of them with a single press of the
>shutter button. Maybe that's what Trey is doing.

Yes, after much experimentation and manual reading, I've come to the same conclusion. That is, to get bracketing to work with a single press of the shutter-release button in self-timer mode, you must set c3>number of shots to the same number as the number of shots in the bracket sequence.
And, like you, I feel that this is a rather 'weak' work flow as it's easy (especially in the heat of battle) to forget to set or change c3>number of shots, not to mention this does not address mirror slap (which you may or may not be interested in dealing with). If so, you need to:
a) Set d4 (Exposure Delay Mode).
or
b) Use Live View.

So far, I've found several (4 or 5) methods to accomplish bracketing on the D800. However, I have unfortunately NOT found a way to get it to bracket by more than 1EV.

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Pookoo Registered since 08th Dec 2010
Thu 12-Jul-12 04:52 AM

I have the Promote control and it is a fantastic device for HDR. An absolute life saver.

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#26. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 0

wesmannmsu Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Mar 2011
Fri 13-Jul-12 07:24 PM

I keep reading "A Pro Feature" are we saying the D800 isn't a pro body?

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MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Fri 13-Jul-12 08:48 PM

>I keep reading "A Pro Feature" are we saying the
>D800 isn't a pro body?

We're all just saying stuff. The D800 is what it is.

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#28. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 27

wesmannmsu Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Mar 2011
Fri 13-Jul-12 08:56 PM

>>I keep reading "A Pro Feature" are we saying
>the
>>D800 isn't a pro body?
>
>We're all just saying stuff. The D800 is what it is.
>

and what is that? Its arguably the best camera on the market today, rivaling even the Medium Format range.

sure, it doesn't hit 12 frames a second, and apparently can't do 2EV bracketing steps, but i think its clear, its a Pro body.


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#29. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 28

MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Fri 13-Jul-12 09:39 PM

The D4 is the first Nikon pro body to do 2EV bracketing. All the "amateur" bodies that bracket do 2EV e.g. D50, D70, D80, D90, D5000, D5100, D7000 etc.

Draw whatever conclusion from that you want.

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#30. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 29

ljordan316 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2010
Fri 13-Jul-12 11:04 PM

The camera captures the images. You simply have to delete a few in each set if you don't want to use them. I am happy the camera captures at 1EV increments. I would not have it any other way...and it is definitely a pro body. DxO rates it higher than any camera, including the D4. What more can you want...maybe a Canon? Go figure.

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#31. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 18

slothead Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Aug 2009
Sat 14-Jul-12 03:57 PM

Not only that, but when I have used th 5 image bracketing at 1ev per image, it rarely comes out to exactly 1ev per. Usually I get -1.7, -1, 0, 1, 1,7 or something like that.

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#32. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 31

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Sat 14-Jul-12 05:55 PM

That would be unusual, Tom - I've always found that Nikon cameras appliy whatever bracketing increment is selected quite precisely. Can you provide an example?

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#33. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 32

slothead Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Aug 2009
Sat 14-Jul-12 06:47 PM

Not at the moment Brian, but I can tell you for a fact that I looked at one of the sets i took last week and the top end was indeed +1.67 ev. I don't know why - maybe it was at the top of the shutter speed range and locked at ISO 3200 on Ap pref., but whatever the reason, I have seen this a lot of times. Have you ever examined the exif on all of your brackets? Do you know for a fact that it has been exactly what you set as the gap?

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#34. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 30

MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Sat 14-Jul-12 11:05 PM

>I am happy the camera captures at 1EV increments. I would not have it
>any other way

I cannot agree with that. How about the ability to set the interval in 1/3 stop increments up to 2EV? Then you can have your 1EV and people who want 2EV can have that too.

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#35. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 34

ljordan316 Silver Member Nikonian since 10th Feb 2010
Sun 15-Jul-12 12:12 AM

Put it on your wish list for the D900...and good luck with that.

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#36. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 34

spicyTuna Registered since 26th Jun 2008
Sun 15-Jul-12 02:24 AM

>>I am happy the camera captures at 1EV increments. I would
>not have it
>>any other way
>
>I cannot agree with that. How about the ability to set the
>interval in 1/3 stop increments up to 2EV? Then you can have
>your 1EV and people who want 2EV can have that too.
>
>Larry - a Bay Area
>Nikonian

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>Nikonians gallery>

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Ya I totally don't understand why they didn't just allow 2 ev brackets as one of the options.

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#37. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 35

MotoMannequin Awarded for his extraordinary skills in landscape and wildlife photography Registered since 11th Jan 2006
Sun 15-Jul-12 02:53 PM

>Put it on your wish list for the D900...and good luck with that.

Whether they offer it in a D800 firmware upgrade or on D900 or never, has nothing to do with the utility of the current feature, which is what we're discussing here.

Apparently you don't know this, but there is precedent for Nikon correcting brain-dead features with software releases (and yes, the current feature is brain dead!) Specifically they did, after years of customers complaining in forums like this, eventually fix the minimum shutter speed setting in aperture priority auto-ISO, which on all Nikon cameras used to have a range of something like 1/60" and slower. If you use auto-ISO with long lenses, you may not be aware that the reason you have useful settings for this feature is because of people like us complaining. Search the D300 forum you'll find lengthy discussions just like this one, with some users pointing out the uselessness of the feature, and others who didn't get it, arguing with them. Eventually Nikon woke up and fixed it for the D300, as a firmware release!

Since this problem has been around since the beginning of time with Nikon cameras, I'd not hold out much hope, except that they seem to have woken up and provided the people what they want with the D4, there is perhaps a chance. Obviously this is a firmware fix, and they've done this before.

The part I don't get about the arguing, is the the people who bracket 1EV won't be affected at all. It seems they just like arguing.

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#38. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 33

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Sun 15-Jul-12 03:02 PM


>Have you ever examined the exif on all of your brackets?

No, I haven't. But all those I have looked at were correct.

I suspect your idea of maxing out the available settings at one end of the bracket sequence is a factor in your case. I tend not to use the extremes of shutter speed, aperture and ISO for these shots.

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#39. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 38

slothead Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Aug 2009
Mon 16-Jul-12 12:48 PM

Brian,
I am in error. I went back and looked at a set of brackets very early this morning and found exact numbers in the exif data (-2, -1, 0, 1, 2). Then I went into PS and did an HDR merge using three of those 5 and found the following EVs in the PS tray: -2, 0, +0.36! I have no idea what is going on there but I think it is where I got my misconception. In fact what I said earlier about being at the limits can't be true because it was on the high (over exposed) end of the range that I thought I had seen the flaw. There is no way I could less than fully exposed at +2 (if it were the -2 it would be believable since I approach 1/8000 sec more readily than I approach 30 seconds)!

Thanks for chiming in, and also ignore my first comment about the out-of-whack EVs.

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#40. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 39

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Mon 16-Jul-12 02:35 PM

No problem, Tom

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#41. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 30

Antero52 Silver Member Awarded for his expertise in post-processing, being  consistently helpful and professional. Nikonian since 07th Jul 2009
Tue 17-Jul-12 02:45 AM

> "I am happy the camera captures at 1EV increments. I would not have it any other way...and it is definitely a pro body."

Yes, you can keep only the odd-numbered shots and delete the even-numbered ones, but you still have 1/2 seconds (two shots @ 4fps) between kept frames, and with fast-moving subjects or clouds, HDR software may have problems merging the shots. With 2EV gaps the complete sequence could be captured in half the time.

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#42. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 4

Gromit44 Registered since 04th Jan 2012
Wed 18-Jul-12 09:02 AM | edited Wed 18-Jul-12 09:02 AM by Gromit44

>.....they included it on the D4.

Now I'm confused.

Jason Odell says there's a 2EV option for the D4 - but Nikon's website says the biggest step is only 1EV.

http://www.luminescentphoto.com/blog/2012/03/24/nikon-d4-hands-on-first-impressions/

http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/d4/spec.htm


The D4, D3x & D800 manuals all show 1/3, 2/3 and 1 as the options for 'EV Steps for Exposure Control'. (Pages 313, 314, 287 respectively).

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#43. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 3

mallard9 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Oct 2013
Sat 19-Oct-13 02:30 PM

Having upgraded from D7000 to D800 I found a few disappointing
features, the lack of bracketing options was one.  There is
almost no reason on a camera with this dynamic range to
bracket at 1EV intervals.

Also, the pre-sets are not very useful.  For bird shots on my
D7000, I had the U2 selection on my exposure control set to
1/1000, S priority, variable ISO and continuous focus.  If I
needed it quickly it was a simple twist of the dial.  Any
changes made for the shot did not change the basic setting. 
With the D800, every change made, changes the basic setting. 
Also, it is a menu change.  By the time the change is made,
the bird has gone.

A minor beef - I would have much preferred a dual or triple
memory card slot rather than a flash card slot.  There doesn't
seem to be any advantage to the flash card and it is more
expensive.

That's off my chest, now I will enjoy my new camera.

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#44. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 6

mallard9 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Oct 2013
Sun 20-Oct-13 02:43 PM

It is easy to set up the continuous shoot to CL or CH. It will take the 3,5,7, or9 bracked shots with one press. (Tripod and aperature priority recommended)

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#45. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 23

drakonian Registered since 18th Jul 2013
Mon 21-Oct-13 01:27 AM

>I've found that along with changing the delay of the self
>timer, you can also alter the number of exposures it takes. If
>you set it to 5 for example and the enable bracketing of 5
>exposures, you can take all of them with a single press of the
>shutter button. Maybe that's what Trey is doing. Only problem
>for me is I sometimes shoot 7 or 9 exposure brackets so I have
>yo remember to change the timer as well.

My setting are for timer: 5 sec - 2 shots - 1 sec.
b1 to b3 set to 1/3
Bracket set to 9 shots with either .3 .7 or 1

press shutter release button once and D900 takes 9 shots in single picture mode.

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#46. "RE: Bracketing on the D800" | In response to Reply # 41

venkatan Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 18th May 2014
Sun 18-May-14 03:05 PM

I think i am very late on this , as i joined Nikonians back after many years . While the 1ev bracket & discard what you dont want is ok with Tripod shooting , what about hand held HDR , esply where u r not allowed to use a tripod. In that case the 3 shot 2 EV bkt becomes mission critical. Can you imagine i bought the DF for almost this feature only ( apart from being compact for travel +...) . Cant Nikon release a firmware update to sort this out, is this being planned

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