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SonjaM

Jersey City, US
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SonjaM Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Feb 2010
Tue 29-Jan-13 10:44 PM

Just a share - I had my D700 in the shop for the weekend to fix a dodgy flash. Other than that I've been perfectly content with the D700. No sooner did I check it in and my son wanted shots for an engagement Save the Date - So I figure this would be a perfect time to try out the D800. I rented it for the weekend. To say I'm floored is an understatement. This camera brought me back the joy. In fact I'm starting to think there may be something wrong with my D700. I have not had as many consistently great shots - ie clear, and in focus in a long long time. With the D700 I might get 1 out of 30 where all the stars align. Confession, I am a pixel peeper. The d800 - every shot was at least in focus. composition and other issues aside. I read about this, but had no idea until I saw for myself. Byt the way same lens. Mostly the 24-70.
So whats a girl to do? I'm going to get me one of these D800's before the special deal runs out this Sunday.

Besides that the decision has been made is there a way to test if there is something wrong with the D700?

avm247

Rancho Cordova, US
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Wed 30-Jan-13 12:58 AM

I don't have D800 but I do have a D700. I'm wondering if you are looking at the results of more pixels on subject just rendering a beautiful image. Just a thought.

If a Nikon or an authorized repair facility is doing the repair, they should bring it back to factory specs.

I think the best thing to do is keep the D800 a little longer and run a side by side comparison.

(BTW, posts like yours are why I have not held a D800...this hobby is getting too expensive! LOL!)



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RRRoger

Monterey Bay, US
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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Wed 30-Jan-13 02:23 AM

Sounds like the D800 is made for you.
My son had a similar experience with the D3 and I with the D4,

I would back up your rented D800 settings to the flash card and your computer.
You can then transfer them to your new D800.
I would also copy them down from the camera to paper.
It took me several weeks to dial my D800 in when I got it.

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JM3

Daytona Beach, US
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JM3 Gold Member Nikonian since 27th Nov 2009
Wed 30-Jan-13 05:33 PM

I finally got to play with my new D800 at the Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona this past weekend.

To say the “joy is back” sums it up nicely.

Haven’t had/taken the time to dial it in yet, but was still very impressed with the results.

Now, if I could just open the RAW files with CS6… Oh well, latest version of Lightroom will be here Friday.

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SonjaM

Jersey City, US
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SonjaM Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Feb 2010
Thu 31-Jan-13 01:30 AM

JM3 - yes i am having that learning curve too!. I had trouble getting them into LR3. But the loaner came with a Capture NX disc, so that's where the photos are sitting right now.
Might need to upgrade the puter system too.

mawyatt1

US
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mawyatt1 Registered since 11th Feb 2012
Thu 31-Jan-13 01:39 PM | edited Thu 31-Jan-13 01:40 PM by mawyatt1

>I finally got to play with my new D800 at the Rolex 24 Hours
>of Daytona this past weekend.
>
>To say the “joy is back” sums it up nicely.
>
>Haven’t had/taken the time to dial it in yet, but was still
>very impressed with the results.
>
>Now, if I could just open the RAW files with CS6… Oh well,
>latest version of Lightroom will be here Friday.
>

I wanted to go to the race but couldn't (watched on Speed), so I'll try Sebring. Hope to use the D800 there. Please show some of your results and what lens and settings you used. I used the D7000 at Sebring with the 70-200 VR1 and 1.7TC, and the Sigma 50-500 OS....so itching to try the D800 with these.

Thanks,

M_Jackson

Jackson, US
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M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Thu 31-Jan-13 02:44 PM

RRRoger,
Exactly which settings did you have to dial in to make you happy with the D800?

I'd love to see some 1:1 level screen grabs in Lightroom of a raw file capture. Mine look sharp at 1:2 or 1:3 but not at 1:1.

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RRRoger

Monterey Bay, US
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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Thu 31-Jan-13 04:25 PM | edited Fri 01-Feb-13 04:11 PM by RRRoger

>RRRoger,
>Exactly which settings did you have to dial in to make you
>happy with the D800?
>Quote<<<

First off "Disclaimer" these will not work best for everyone
and I do adjust these for special circumstances.

1. I will start with the shutter button =
take photos in picture mode
start movies in movie mode
2. Mode button = Aperture priority
3. EV = 0 most of the time
4. Release mode dial = CL
5. Focus mode selector = AF
6. AF mode button = AF-C & d9
Shooting menu
7. File naming changed to my initials
8. Primary Slot = (SD 64GB 95s card) for stills
9. Secondary slot, Video and overflow (CF 32GB 1000x)
10. Image Quality = Fine
11. Image area = DX crop off and FX
12. JPEG compression = Optimal quality
13. I only shoot NEF as a backup at Weddings
14. White balance = Auto 1 Normal
15. Picture Control = SD Standard with sharpening increased to near 0.
16. Color space = sRGB
17. Active D lighting = Auto
18. HDR, Vignette control, Auto distortion control, long exposure NR,
High ISO NR, Multiple exposure, internal timer, time lapse = off
19. ISO sensitivity settings = 100, ON, Max 6400, Min shutter 1/640
20. Movie settings = 1080P @ 30fps, High quality, Auto mic.

Custom settings menu
a1 AF-C Priority = Release
a2 AF-S priority = Focus
a3 Focus tracking with lock on = 1 short
a4 AF activation = off (AF-ON only)
a5 AF point illumination = on
a6 Focus point wrap = off
a7 Number of focus points = 11
a8 AF assist = off
b1 Sensitivity step value = 1/3
b2 Exposure control 1/3
b3 Exposure/flash compensation = 1/3
b4 Easy exposure = off
b5 Center weight = 8
b6 Fine tune exposure = none
c1 Shutter release AE-L = off
c2 Auto meter off = 6s
c3 Self timer = 10s
c4 Monitor off = 10s
d1 Beep = off
d2 CL mode shooting speed = 5fps
d3 Max continuous release = 100
d4 Exposure delay = off
d5 File number sequence = on
d6 Viewfinder grid disp0lay = off
d7 ISO display = on
d8 screen tips = off
d9 Information display = B manual dark on light
d19 LCD illumination = on
e1 Flash sync = 1/250
e2 Flash shutter speed = 1/60
e3 Flash control = TTL
e4 Model flash = on
f1 switch = on
f2 Multi selector button
Shooting = highlight active focus point
Playback = magnify medium
Live view = zoom medium
f3 Multi selector = do nothing
f4 Assign Fn button = access top item my menu
f5 Assign preview button = virtual horizon
f6 Assign AE-L/AF-L button = AE/AF lock
f7 Shutter spd & aperture lock = off
f8 Assign BKT button = BKT
f9 Customize command dials = Aperture setting on the rest off
f10 Release button to use dial = off
f11 Slot empty release lock = enable release
f12 Revers indicators = + on right
f13 Assign MB-D12 = AF-ON

Movie mode
g1 Assign function button = view shooting info
g2 Assign preview button = view shooting info
g3 Assign AE-L/AF-L button = AE/AF lock
g4 Assign Shutter button = take photos
Setup menu
Monitor brightness = auto
HDMI output = auto
Flicker reduction = 60 Hz
Auto image rotation = on
Image comment = off
Copyright = on

I am interested in other settings that D800 owners are using for different serenades.
For instance, I shoot Video in manual but still use AF-ON when I refocus.


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wesmannmsu

US
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wesmannmsu Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Mar 2011
Thu 31-Jan-13 11:17 PM

>Now, if I could just open the RAW files with CS6… Oh well,
>latest version of Lightroom will be here Friday.


Pretty sure Lightroom and Photoshop can open D800 Raw files. I do it all day long

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ericbowles

Atlanta, US
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Fri 01-Feb-13 09:13 AM

LR3 does not work with D800 NEF files. You can convert the files to DNG, ACR or TIFF using other tools. Lightroom 4 handles D800 files with no problems.

The D800 files are about 3 times the size of the D700. That is the case for everything - NEF, JPEG, or TIFF.

And yes - the D800 is shockingly sharp - much sharper than any camera I have previously used. Anthony - you need to stay away from it.

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JM3

Daytona Beach, US
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JM3 Gold Member Nikonian since 27th Nov 2009
Fri 01-Feb-13 11:14 AM

Realized last night that I misspoke yesterday saying that I’m unable to open D800 RAW files with CS6. Should have said CS4, the version I currently have, which is no longer supported by Adobe. My operating system is not supported with the CS6 release.

Which version of Photoshop are you running?

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PeterBeckett

Lincoln, US
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PeterBeckett Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 04th Jan 2010
Fri 01-Feb-13 03:41 PM


Make sure you update to Adobe's latest Camera Raw. ACR (and therefore Photoshop) has been supporting D800 NEFs for the better part of a year!

Pete

JHzlwd

Calgary, CA
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JHzlwd Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 03rd Oct 2007
Fri 01-Feb-13 04:14 PM

Pixel density on the D700 is significantly lower so you could expect to see the D800 delivering more detail with top lenses (among which the 24 - 70 is one).

Good comment re being a pixel peeper. To the maximum size of presentation most people want to prepare (or are even able to) I doubt very much there is significant visible difference between a D700 and D800 image. Up to an 11 X 17 print or even a bit larger the D700 should have no problem providing everything an inkjet can render, to say nothing of even a high definition monitor which typically has only about 100 pixels/inch (at 100% you would have to massively scroll the image to see all of it).

Where the D800 really shines is when you start printing at 24 - 30 inches on a side or if you need to crop. That's when it pulls away from the crowd and invades medium format territory.

The D800 has made a digital believer out of me, coming from medium format film. It has proved worth every penny, making possible what I had thought digital could not deliver for a long time yet. It's an extremely enjoyable and in some was liberating product, making photography that much more fun. Beware the principle down-side (according to some)which is a rather low burst rate although I find it plenty fast enough.

The D800 also raises the bar on dynamic range. Last summer I shot an entire wedding at ISO 4000 (no flash allowed, even for the pro) and every image was stunning - sharp and noise free to the extent no one except a pixel-peeper would spot it.

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slothead

Frederick, US
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slothead Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Aug 2009
Fri 01-Feb-13 09:39 PM

Ummm... Should this post/thread be here or in the D700 forum?

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