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Reikan Focal - Latest?

Ferguson

Cape Coral, US
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Ferguson Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for the generous sharing of his high level expertise in the spirit of Nikonians Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004
Wed 19-Dec-12 09:37 PM


There's been extensive discussion on this but haven't seen anything lately, and couldn't find a recent, relevant topic (and a lot of its discussion was on the D800) so...

I last used 1.6.0.141.

They now have 1.7.0.247 posted, with a lot of changes. It's in beta (but most of what I ran with them was).

I heard some issues with recent versions (of course this is the internet, so there are issues with everything).

Anyone used the latest version(s), had good or bad experience, recommend the upgrade or use the old?


Linwood

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piowoc

St. Louis, US
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#1. "RE: Reikan Focal - Latest?" | In response to Reply # 0

piowoc Registered since 06th Aug 2007
Wed 19-Dec-12 09:49 PM

Hi,

I used the 1.7.0.240 beta 2 weeks ago for both AFMA and AF consistency test on D800 and D4. No issues at all, everything worked great. Comparing to the last stable release I think the beta is more accurate, e.g. in AFMA mode it tests more AFMA settings before deciding on the final recommended adjustment, so I assume the calculations are more precise and even if there was a problem with AF at any of the AF microadjustment values the calculation would still be more precise than with the last stable release. I believe they changed the algorithm how is it calculated as well. What I also noticed was that I was finally able to find the optimal AFMA setting for my 85mm f1.4G lens, which according to the last stable release was "out of range", so the software refused to calculate it at all.
Other than that the beta works and feels like the next improved release. Actually their "betas" seem to be as reliable as their stable releases.

Hope it will help you decide which way you want to go.

Regards,
Peter

Gromit44

UK
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Gromit44 Registered since 04th Jan 2012
Thu 20-Dec-12 02:02 PM

The new 'QuickCal' feature looks interesting - http://www.reikan.co.uk/focalweb/index.php/2012/11/focal-quickcal-test-preview/

Ferguson

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Ferguson Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for the generous sharing of his high level expertise in the spirit of Nikonians Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004
Mon 24-Dec-12 05:14 PM


I spent some time yesterday and today rechecking two lenses that I had some question about.

The new version worked fine. It seemed to converge faster on an answer, it definitely (and I do not quite know why) yielded a much steeper curver in all cases, for a more defined "best".

Interestingly I checked 2 cameras and 2 lenses and came to the same number (+/- 1) that I had with the older version, which was a bit reassuring.

I also did a pretty careful live-view vs. AF test on the center, and cannot tell the difference between them.

One thing I also tried (which would work with the older one as well) was to save the actual images during a Aperture test. I then did a live view very careful focus of an spot on the ground, and turned off AF. With the full frame, I could test for focus shift to see how bad it was. I'd heard the 85/1.4G in particular was bad. It's a very nice, fast way to get a feel for that (the answer by the way was "not too bad". At about F2.8 it shifted back enough that the spot on which I was focused was at the very front of the focal range, i.e. blurred just in front of it, but as the DOF deepened I began to pick up focus in front and behind. But it definitely shifts the center of the focus back as the aperture goes to a higher F-stop. Something I need to keep in mind, aim more the front not the middle of the area of interest. The 70-200 (the other I tested, at the same 85mm) stayed nicely centered.


Linwood

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slothead

Frederick, US
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slothead Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 11th Aug 2009
Tue 25-Dec-12 12:35 AM | edited Tue 25-Dec-12 12:36 AM by slothead

Linwood,
I have questions about the FoCal product. I went to their website to see the details and pricing. I could not find a price for the FoCal Pro, and then I found that (I think) the FoCal Pro will not fully automatically adjust the D800's fine tune because of what they call "a crippled PC interface" (inferring that Nikon had interfered with the system's operation). Is this what you have found, and by the way, what does the FoCal Pro cost?

Thanks,

Tom
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D810, D750, N1-J5, N1-V3 (and a few other cameras) and a BIG handful of lenses.

Ferguson

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Ferguson Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for the generous sharing of his high level expertise in the spirit of Nikonians Nikonian since 19th Aug 2004
Tue 25-Dec-12 01:01 AM

>Linwood,
>I have questions about the FoCal product. I went to their
>website to see the details and pricing. I could not find a
>price for the FoCal Pro, and then I found that (I think) the
>FoCal Pro will not fully automatically adjust the D800's fine
>tune because of what they call "a crippled PC
>interface" (inferring that Nikon had interfered with the
>system's operation). Is this what you have found, and by the
>way, what does the FoCal Pro cost?

Nikon does not (i appears) provide an API that permits one to adjust the fine tune from the PC. So as Focal needs to take lots of images at different fine tune adjustment settings, it stops and prompts you "set to -20" then "set to -10", etc. It would be MUCH more convenient if it could set it automatically, as it can with Canon, but it cannot. So none of the competing techniques or tools will be any different, you still have to manually adjust.

I bought the pro version and did not regret it. There was a coupon floating around here which saved a few bucks (search will probably show it, not sure if it is still good). I haven't regretted it. It brings good method to something that is otherwise more art than science (it is still a bit of an art).

Linwood

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daddyo1973

US
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daddyo1973 Registered since 25th Sep 2012
Sat 29-Dec-12 11:24 AM | edited Sat 29-Dec-12 11:25 AM by daddyo1973

I just purchased FoCal Pro and ran my D800 and 2 of my lenses through it. I am running Windows 7 and using version 1.7.0.250.

Overall I am impressed with its interface and ease of use. The fully automatic mode works very well. The software displays prompts asking you for AF fine tune adjustments, the rest is controlled by software.

Also, for what its worth, FoCal confirmed my initial home brew camera tests that my D800 AF system is working just fine. I found my self tested AF fine tune numbers to be only +2 or +3 off of FoCal's suggested values. Reviewing the reports post test is also very informative.

Overall, highly recommended for us pixel peepers.

G