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What is happening on December 15?

HDL_PHOTO

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HDL_PHOTO Registered since 02nd Sep 2012
Fri 30-Nov-12 11:33 AM

Thom , on his website, says wait until 12/15 to buy a D800 but will not say why. Does anyone know what is happening on that date?

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moizes

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#1. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 0

moizes Silver Member Nikonian since 19th May 2006
Fri 30-Nov-12 11:20 AM

I believe he thinks that the camera may drop in price of $200. Nobody knows for sure so far. Dimitri.

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Covey22 Moderator Expert in various fields including aviation photography Awarded for his contributions to the Resources and The Nikonian eZine Charter Member
Fri 30-Nov-12 12:04 PM

The D800S is released.

Covey22 ducks into his insulated foxhole and slips on his flannel PJs in preparation for the eventual flaming.

Just kidding folks. Really.

K64drb

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#3. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 0

K64drb Silver Member Nikonian since 18th Feb 2012
Fri 30-Nov-12 02:23 PM

Nikon Rumors has a post about a potential price drop on Dec. 15th for the D800/E. Check it out:

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/11/28/nikon-d800d800e-price-drop-on-december-15th.aspx/

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#4. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 3

richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Fri 30-Nov-12 02:52 PM | edited Fri 30-Nov-12 02:53 PM by richardd300

Cheapest UK price at present is £1880 at Amazon and that's a drop of £500 (approx US$750) in 3.5 months! It's at about what the D700 retailed over it's last 3 years. So, not much latitude I wouldn't have thought. The comment about a D800s was made lightly, but who knows

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#5. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 4

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Fri 30-Nov-12 03:28 PM | edited Fri 30-Nov-12 03:37 PM by mklass

On December 15th, Nikon admits that the D800/e really won't focus correctly and rather than fixing them will drop the price by $200. On December 16th the D801, featuring better focusing, an integrated rocket blower and an oil squeegee attached to the shutter as the only new features, is announced replacing the D800/e. As a way to make up for other customer service related issues, the rocket blower and squeegee will be offered as retrofit items for all older Nikon DSLRs and only as user installable items. Nikon service centers will not touch them. To further address customer complaints about parts and service, Nikon will announce that is is outsourcing its repair center work to Canon

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#6. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 5

liamtoh1ps Registered since 17th Apr 2012
Fri 30-Nov-12 06:12 PM

Thanks. Needed a nice laugh.

kamputty

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kamputty Registered since 04th Jan 2007
Fri 30-Nov-12 08:16 PM

My contacts have informed me that Nikon has fixed the Focus Issue by upgrading the F mount to "FF" (Fixed Focus), now the lens just fall off when focused on the left. Fixed.

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#8. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 0

Bk777 Registered since 10th Feb 2012
Sat 01-Dec-12 06:10 AM

Drop in price for less than a year?

mklass

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Sat 01-Dec-12 02:03 PM

Well, when the D800 first came out there were are slew of people here who claimed it was overpriced...

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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Sat 01-Dec-12 02:54 PM

>The D800S is released.
>
>Covey22 ducks into his insulated foxhole and slips on his
>flannel PJs in preparation for the eventual flaming.

>
>Just kidding folks. Really.<<<

Nope!
It is rumored to be a D800h
with Expeed 3b processor, faster memory and 8 fps.

ya, in your dreams.

The price is dropping by $200
This is not a rebate but a response to competitors
Canon just dropped their price on the 5D3.
Nikon is lowering other prices as well.
There could be a price war brewing?

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PerroneFord

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#11. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 9

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 01-Dec-12 03:03 PM

>Well, when the D800 first came out there were are slew of
>people here who claimed it was overpriced...

Well, when the *xxx camera first came out there was a slew of people who claimed it was overpriced.

*(insert camera name of choice)

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Robman3

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#12. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 0

Robman3 Registered since 12th Apr 2010
Sun 02-Dec-12 06:45 AM

Opinion but, the MK3's have been in stock for a while in the ads etc.

The D800 seems to have caught up finally.

Last year Nikon, Canon, Sony decided no more discounts on pro level bodies.

There was no wiggle room and supply versus demand.

Its a good bet that Canon is reducing the price so Nikon will match the move but which brand is tanked with on the shelf, and not enough sell through, a good question.

Video = MK3, and Magic Lantern gets the MK2 up to spec (almost as good as the MK3 out of the box anyway) on HDMI out etc. so it's entirely possible, they overshot indie users looking to upgrade.

The D800 OTOH is unique, and Nikon may well have recouped, and or the gambit for NO discounting, has not worked to anyone's advantage.

$.02 cents and counting.

I'm waiting for the D4S anyway.

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Sun 02-Dec-12 07:10 AM | edited Sun 02-Dec-12 07:12 AM by richardd300

Hi PerroneFord

Yep and I was one of them. 10 months later and as expected it is 25% cheaper. It's now, also as I expected, come down to almost the D700 price a year ago If I do decide to buy the missing D400, I shall apply the same logic.

It all depends on budget and how much one really wants one and of course whether it's for amateur or professional use.

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RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Sun 02-Dec-12 01:06 PM

>Well, when the D800 first came out there were are slew of
>people here who claimed it was overpriced...
>Quote<<<

There were also lots and I mean lots of us that thought the D800 would cost over $4,000

It has been the best camera bargain ever for me
and using it for over 6 months for only $200 (price drop) well worth it.

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Sun 02-Dec-12 01:20 PM

I bought mine only 3 months ago and since I did in the UK it's dropped $US773 ! Perhaps moving to the US is the answer

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txstone12

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txstone12 Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 12th Feb 2012
Sun 02-Dec-12 04:30 PM

Circling back to Howard's OP, Thom has posted a clarification on his advice to wait to purchase a D800/E. He's also posted his end-of-year, just for Nikon predictions of new cameras and lenses, as Richard well knows (sorry for the duplication, Richard).

Al posted Thom's predictions as soon as they came out here for discussion

https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=190&topic_id=85595&mesg_id=85595&page=

Thom's predictions and D800 (or is it D800E) pricing clarifications

http://www.bythom.com/

I'm only in the market for lenses. My interests were mentioned, so the rumored updates live. Not embroiled in the camera speculation at the moment.

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richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Sun 02-Dec-12 05:06 PM | edited Sun 02-Dec-12 05:07 PM by richardd300

<<I'm only in the market for lenses.>>

Me too David. It seems a long time now since I first read on the forums about a new 300mm f4 with VR or a 80-400mm with AF-S. What do we get, a 70-200mm f4 with no tripod mount and a few other exotics. It's enough to make one look elsewhere as I did with my Sigma 50-500mm OS I also think Sigma are capitalizing on the lack of improvements in existing Nikon lens technologies. All power to them if it makes Nikon look again at their current aging range!

Just my take on it mind.

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#18. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 17

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Sun 02-Dec-12 06:59 PM


>Me too David. It seems a long time now since I first read on
>the forums about a new 300mm f4 with VR or a 80-400mm with
>AF-S. What do we get, a 70-200mm f4 with no tripod mount...

I case it helps to make us feel better, let me note that the two Canon 70-200mm f/4 lenses don't have a tripod collar either. At least the new Nikkor offers one as an option...

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#19. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 18

richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Sun 02-Dec-12 08:18 PM

Yes, but by the time the Nikon price is added on, one may as well buy the f2.8 I guess. I've always thought an f4 at 70-200mm a strange option. I guess some will be tempted by less weight.

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jbailey930 Registered since 29th Apr 2007
Mon 03-Dec-12 12:00 AM

Local camera dealers are applying the $200 discount already. Ask me how I know !

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InsaneO Registered since 09th May 2012
Fri 07-Dec-12 02:30 AM

How do you know?

InsaneO

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InsaneO Registered since 09th May 2012
Fri 07-Dec-12 02:31 AM

I have Sigma 70-200mm OS. Ask me where tripod collar lives.

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Robman3 Registered since 12th Apr 2010
Fri 07-Dec-12 02:36 AM

They will use the discounted incentive as a "no tax" leader.

Happens a few time every year.

Last week's ads locally, already in play.

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mikesrc

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#24. "RE: What is happening on December 15?" | In response to Reply # 15

mikesrc Registered since 03rd May 2009
Wed 12-Dec-12 09:45 PM

>I bought mine only 3 months ago and since I did in the UK
>it's dropped $US773 ! Perhaps moving to the US is the answer
>
>
>Richard

Come on over we will let Obama do his tax deal on you too. I can't afford the A hole

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dhmiller Silver Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 19th May 2009
Thu 13-Dec-12 12:26 AM

"I can't afford the A hole"
what exactly does this comment refer to?

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