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MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?

Gator Bob

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Gator Bob Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Jul 2006
Fri 05-Oct-12 03:35 PM

I inserted a previously used 4GB Lexar Professional UDMA 300x CF card into my new D800E and reformatted it two times before I took my test photos. Strangely, the image numbers begin with " DSC_5750 ". Later I read in Hogan's D800 book a warning "DO NOT SWAP CF CARDS" from one camera to another because that can mess up the second camera's image numbering system.

How do I view the TRUE image number? The free version of OPanda wants me to buy OPanda Pro to view the D800E exif data.

I do not seriously believe that Amazon shipped me a presumably-just-arrived-from-Japan brand new D800E s/n 3007xxx with 5500 clicks. Gotta be a better explanation.

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avm247

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#1. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 05-Oct-12 02:25 PM

I use PhotoME on my PC at home. Honestly, though, other than occassionally checking, I think the whole shutter count thing is a bit silly. I didn't care when I was shooting film and I don't really care shooting digital. But that's just me.


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gpoole

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#2. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 05-Oct-12 02:48 PM

If you formatted the card before use the image number would pick up where it left off from the previous use. For a new camera this should start at 0001. Believe it or not, Amazon must have shipped you a previously used camera. Also if you had a new camera you would be prompted to set the timezone before use.

The swapping cards warning only applies to cards with images already on them. If you formatted the card, it's history shouldn't matter.

Note that if you check the EXIF, the count could be higher than the frame number. Things like LiveView, multiple exposure, in camera HDR, and opening the shutter for sensor cleaning all generate extra shutter cycles without producing images.

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JosephK

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#3. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 0

JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006
Fri 05-Oct-12 11:24 PM

The number put into the file name is just a number used for simple file naming. The camera can reset it back to 1 as can you.

The number of shutter activations is a completely separate number stored in the camera and written to the EXIF data inside the files. (There is no "true image number" since the shutter can be activated for many reasons without creating an image.)

Many EXIF viewers will show you the shutter count from an unedited picture. It will be near the bottom of the "maker notes" section, which many editors will discard when editing the file.

Or you can upload an unedited picture to http://myshuttercount.com/

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Joseph K
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Gator Bob

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#4. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 3

Gator Bob Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Jul 2006
Fri 05-Oct-12 11:56 PM | edited Fri 05-Oct-12 11:58 PM by Gator Bob

>The number put into the file name is just a number used for
>simple file naming. The camera can reset it back to 1 as can
>you. ... you can upload an unedited picture to
>http://myshuttercount.com/
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>Joseph K
>Seattle, WA, USA

Thank for your ACCURATE, CORRECT assessment. www.myshuttercount.com reports my last two D800E images are numbers 42 and 43, which is correct for my preliminary test shots right out of the box.

It's also my bad -- not Amazon's or Nikon's -- for the initialization. I obviously rushed through it and did not observe the process very carefully.


Gator Bob Santa Fe New Mexico
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MEMcD

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#5. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 0

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sat 06-Oct-12 05:47 AM

Hi Bob,

Opanda IExif 2.3 is able to read the number of shutter actuations on my D800E. Did you check a jpeg file created in the camera?
Good uck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

Gator Bob

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#6. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 5

Gator Bob Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Jul 2006
Sat 06-Oct-12 07:44 AM

No, i checked a NEF file.
Thanks for the info for future use.

Gator Bob Santa Fe New Mexico
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MEMcD

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#7. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 6

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sat 06-Oct-12 02:28 PM

Hi Bob,

I was thinking that.
Thanks for the confirmation.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

Gator Bob

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#8. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 3

Gator Bob Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Jul 2006
Sun 07-Oct-12 01:14 PM

>The number put into the file name is just a number used for simple file naming. The camera >can reset it back to 1 as can you.
>Joseph K
>Seattle, WA, USA


I can find file-naming in the menu but cannot find a menu to reset the DSC number back to DSC_00xx (For simplicity, I'd like to match the actual exposure number.)

Can you tell me?

Thank you.

Gator Bob Santa Fe New Mexico
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Nikkors: *14-24 *70-200 VRII *T-20E III *50 f/1.8 *PC-E 85 *28-300
Tamron: * 90mm Macro *

JosephK

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#9. "RE: MESSED UP D800E IMAGE NUMBERING?" | In response to Reply # 8

JosephK Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his excellent and frequent contributions and sharing his in-depth knowledge and experience with the community in the Nikonians spirit. Nikonian since 17th Apr 2006
Sun 07-Oct-12 03:31 PM

The only number you can set it to manually in 0001. Custom Settings d5-Reset.

Trying to depend on the camera's numbering will probably not get you to where you are trying to go, whatever that is. To get around duplicate file names, I use a third-party downloader (BreezeSys.com) to rename the files as yyyymmdd_nnnn based on the EXIF date taken and the running number count where I reset the count back to 1 at the start of every event.

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Joseph K
Seattle, WA, USA

D700, D200, D70S, 24-70mm f/2.8, VR 70-200mm f/2.8 II, 50mm f/1.4 D,
17-55mm f/2.8 DX, 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 VR, 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5 DX

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