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D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?

mrpenguin

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mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Thu 26-Apr-12 04:12 PM

Anybody using a D800 and a 85mm 1.4G or 1.8G lens ?
I read a few places on the internet that the 85mm 1.8G is almost just as good as the 1.4G lens.... only main difference is that the one can stop down to 1.4.
They say that on the D800 the 14G is not 3 times, or even 2 times better than the 1.8G but that the price of the 1.4G is 3 times as much.

I need a portrait lens for my D800 for weddings, so far been using the 24-70 and 70-200 but would like something to stop down to 1.8 or maybe even 1.4.

I just do not know if it is worth getting the 1.4G over the 1.8G on the D800 for 3 times the price ???

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jetrated

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#1. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 0

jetrated Registered since 26th Mar 2012
Thu 26-Apr-12 05:03 PM | edited Thu 26-Apr-12 07:11 PM by jetrated

Here's some reviews of the 1.8 and 1.4 G versions. The same website also offers reviews of the older D versions if you're interested.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/606-nikkorafs8514ff
http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/717-nikkorafs8518ff

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#2. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 1

Pookoo Registered since 08th Dec 2010
Thu 26-Apr-12 06:35 PM

I can't comment on the 1.8 but I have the 1.4G and it is my favorite portrait lens.

Simply amazing, but yes pricey. IMO worth it.

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WhereRu

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#3. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 0

WhereRu Basic Member
Fri 27-Apr-12 01:53 AM

Sorry i may not be much help as my D800 is yet to arrive. However, I bought the 1.8G 2 months ago (specifically for the d800) and I love it. Using it on my D300 for now Comparing Images to my daughter's 1.4 D, I am VERY glad that i chose the 1.8G. Is her lens a little better? Yes, but bang for the buck nothing compares. I am extremely happy with the 1.8G. (wow I may have just written the LEAST helpful post, ever). I really do love the 1.8G lens.

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km6xz

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#4. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 0

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Fri 27-Apr-12 10:17 AM

The 1.8 might be the best lens for your use because bokeh being the only critical characteristic which is not as good as the 1.4. In a wedding, where the background is not as close in relationship to the camera to subject range, you can control whether that is worth the $1200 and additional post processing to get rid of the CA that is present at 1.4 on the 1.4G. I found a camera store yesterday that had a few 85 1.8's in stock and got to try one against my 85 1.4D on a D700. I decided I am going to sell my D model and pick up the 1.8. At full magnification on the rear display, the 1.8 was sharper from corner to corner with better edge contrast because of difference in CA. The 1.8 seems to be the bargain of line up, even a better performance cost ratio than the 35 or 50mm 1.8Gs that have become so popular as optically excellent bargains.
With the new 28 added to the 35, 50 and 85 1.8G line up of modern optics, Nikon has really beefed up its standings in the quality for reasonable price as industry leader.
Try it out, get it if you are as impressed with it as much as I was.
Stan
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mrpenguin

Windsor, CA
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#5. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 4

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Fri 27-Apr-12 11:12 AM

That is what I have been seeing on the internet... that owners of the 1.8 was very impressed with the sharpness of the lens and that in reviews the 1.8 came so close to the 1.4 in quality of the photo that it made no sense to spend an extra $1200.

I will definitely go do a few test shots of the 1.8 on my D800 once my local store get one in stock.

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icslowmo

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#6. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 5

icslowmo Registered since 01st Jan 2012
Fri 27-Apr-12 12:45 PM

Here is a shot taken the other day at F1.8 on my D7000 and 85mm F1.8G, applied very small amount of sharpening:

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Chris

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icslowmo

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#7. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 6

icslowmo Registered since 01st Jan 2012
Mon 30-Apr-12 05:09 AM

Here are a couple more:

F2.2

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F1.8

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My wife and kid at swim class..... sharp enough for me...

Chris

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Neilwww1

Sydney, AU
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#8. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 5

Neilwww1 Registered since 12th Mar 2012
Sat 28-Apr-12 04:39 AM

Think I'll be saving some coin and buying a 1.8G

mrpenguin

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#9. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 8

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Sun 29-Apr-12 04:32 PM

I am starting to think the 1.8G is the way to go

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Gandalfsfoto

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#10. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 9

Gandalfsfoto Registered since 18th Feb 2012
Sun 29-Apr-12 04:49 PM

The 1.4G is much better in the flare/ghosting area, if that matters to you.

DiamondPhotography

UK
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#11. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 10

DiamondPhotography Registered since 29th Dec 2010
Sun 29-Apr-12 06:49 PM

What about 85mm 1.4D?

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shaynec

US
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#12. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 11

shaynec Silver Member Nikonian since 27th Jun 2009
Mon 30-Apr-12 11:00 PM

I think you just sold me a 1.8 and I was'nt even looking for one! Shayne

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mikesrc

OKLAHOMA CITY, US
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#13. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 12

mikesrc Registered since 03rd May 2009
Wed 02-May-12 06:50 PM




Well Got my 85mm 1.8g, my, my what a fine lens. I can not believe how sharp it is. Used to shoot a 50 on my D7K and loved the focal length. So I figured a good 85 would be about the same on a FF. My, my, my this thing is good. Talked to my sales person Friday and picked it up today. I love my local dealer. Epperson Photo in OKC.

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icslowmo

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#14. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 13

icslowmo Registered since 01st Jan 2012
Wed 02-May-12 09:18 PM

Same reason why I got my 85mm... works well on D7K also..

Chris

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mrpenguin

Windsor, CA
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#15. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 14

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Wed 02-May-12 11:27 PM

I have been reading more about the 1.8G, I seen a couple of reviews where they said that they would not recommend the 1.8G to event photographers because the AF is too slow..... so now I dont know anymore what to get.

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mikesrc

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#16. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 15

mikesrc Registered since 03rd May 2009
Thu 03-May-12 08:56 AM | edited Thu 03-May-12 08:58 AM by mikesrc

>I have been reading more about the 1.8G, I seen a couple of
>reviews where they said that they would not recommend the 1.8G
>to event photographers because the AF is too slow..... so now
>I dont know anymore what to get.

BS!! This lens focus as fast as any I own.

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Marmion4

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#17. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 16

Marmion4 Gold Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2008
Thu 03-May-12 12:54 PM

Gee, just when I thought my NAS was under control...held one 2 weeks ago, so will have to go back to Action Camera & get one.

Thanks for asking the question--wonderful images!

Laura

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jetrated

Curacao, AN
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#18. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 17

jetrated Registered since 26th Mar 2012
Thu 03-May-12 01:01 PM

You guys have dealers around the corner that have the 1.8G in stock?
My local dealer has not had one in stock since I started bugging him about it 2 months ago. Think it's time for a trip.......

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mrpenguin

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#19. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 18

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Thu 03-May-12 01:59 PM

My local dealer has not had one single one in stock since it was released. Harder to find than the D800 ...lol

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mrpenguin

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#20. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 16

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Thu 03-May-12 02:01 PM

>>I have been reading more about the 1.8G, I seen a couple
>of
>>reviews where they said that they would not recommend the
>1.8G
>>to event photographers because the AF is too slow..... so
>now
>>I dont know anymore what to get.
>
>BS!! This lens focus as fast as any I own.
>


How fast is the auto focus in low light ?
The reason they said its not recommended for event photographers is because apparently in low light like a church or reception hall it does not focus fast enough ....... in day light it focus fine they said

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DiamondPhotography

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#21. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 20

DiamondPhotography Registered since 29th Dec 2010
Thu 03-May-12 04:58 PM

Anyone tried 85 1.4D? Or do you think 1.8G is better on D800...

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kuzzy

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#22. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 20

kuzzy Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Dec 2005
Thu 03-May-12 09:11 PM

FWIW I have used the 85mm 1.8D to shoot sports in low light and it did just fine. I do not know about the G version but I do remember reading somewhere that it was slower than the older D version focusing.

Marc
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mikesrc

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#23. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 19

mikesrc Registered since 03rd May 2009
Thu 03-May-12 10:32 PM

>My local dealer has not had one single one in stock since it
>was released. Harder to find than the D800 ...lol

Called my dealer last Friday, picked it up yesterday. I have NO PROBLEM getting Nikon stuff from my local dealer of course I live in Oklahoma City were stuff is easy to Find. It's called Epperson Photo 405 943-1047.

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#24. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 21

D3Xwannabe Gold Member Nikonian since 02nd Jul 2009
Fri 04-May-12 12:57 AM

I'm using the 85mm f/1.4 D lens and the results are stunning on the D800!!!! And, I paid less than $800 for it on FM.

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#25. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 18

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Fri 04-May-12 01:15 AM

My closest dealer had 1, which Laura was referring to, plus another dealer 10 miles away had 4 in stock so it appears to be filling the pipeline. Check if your dealer has actually ordered some.

Stan
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mrpenguin

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#26. "RE: D800 and 85mm lens! 1.4 or 1.8 ?" | In response to Reply # 22

mrpenguin Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Feb 2012
Fri 04-May-12 12:40 PM

The reviews I read they recommend the 1.8D over the 1.8G for event photographers, but I am pretty sure the camera they did the testing on was not a D800, but I did read a couple of reviews where they said the 1.8G on the D800 was as good as the 1.4G

My main concern is that they say you get what you pay for .... so a $500 lens vs a $1400 lens, there has got to be a major difference to be able to ask almost 3x as much money for the 1.4G.

I would love to save money and just buy the 1.8G but I am very worried I would regret it when I am at a reception hall and having AF issues, even with a D800 attached to it.

Anybody used the D800 and 1.8G in low lit situations yet ??

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