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About had enough of my MB-D11

Omaha

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Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Mon 22-Apr-13 07:24 PM

What a bummer.

I bought the MB-D11 about a year ago. I really like the way it adds to the grip-ability of the D7000.

But I had a nagging suspicion that it was a knock-off. I bought it from Amazon, and there was some talk at the time of lots of counterfeit bits being out on the market.

But it worked just fine and other than a slight mis-match between the rubber grip material on the camera vs the MB-D11, it seemed fine.

Then the little joystick thingy broke.

So I sent it to Nikon for repair, half expecting them to tell me it was a knock-off.

But apparently it was/is the real deal, since they fixed it (under warranty) and sent it back.

But today I just noticed that the joystick thing is broken again. Sigh. Just like last time.

I guess its heading back to Nikon. I assume they'll fix it under warranty again, since it wasn't that long ago that they fixed it the last time.

We'll see.

For now, I'm thinking I wish I had bought a knock-off for $30 rather than spend $200+ on this POS.

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Bravozulu

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#1. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

Bravozulu Registered since 04th Jun 2012
Mon 22-Apr-13 10:42 PM

To satisfy your curiosity, I was told this by a Nikon technician at their Hollywood Calif Service Center. The way to tell if an MB-D11 is genuine or a knockoff is to open the battery compartment.

The cast magnesium original from Nikon is smooth on the inside. The plastic imitations have reinforcing ribs to strengthen the grip.

I wasn't at Nikon because of my grip, but for a lens problem. But I had recently returned an Amazon import grip for the D7000. It was called a Pixel, and had electrical problems. I bought the real Nikon item from BH Photo and am quite pleased.

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FreddyB

Havelock North, NZ
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#2. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 1

FreddyB Registered since 24th Oct 2012
Tue 23-Apr-13 05:36 AM

Just had a look at my battery compartment and I'm sure it is not cast magnesium - looks and feels like plastic and, yes, it has reinforcing ribs. But the grip was bought as the 'real thing' and has the Nikon logo, MB-D11 and Nikon Corp. Japan on the base but the tray has "Nikon MS-D11EN Made in China" on the bottom. So, assuming I do have a genuine Nikon grip, do some of them have magnesium battery trays and some plastic?
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#3. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 2

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Tue 23-Apr-13 06:20 AM

The MB-D11 is like most recent Nikon grips, a combination of metal and plastic and the trays have always been plastic. About 1/2 the body of the grip is plastic so the tech needed to explain which of their many models are all metal, this one isn't. So the grip you have is no doubt the one Nikon sells.
Modern plastics are pretty darn good for some things, so there is not clean advantage overall by one material or the other, both have some specific advantages over the other for some traits. Relax, as long as it functions, it will be strong and take a lot of about, but so will the all plastic models.
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four eighty sparky

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#4. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Tue 23-Apr-13 11:23 AM

I have yet to replace the knock-off MB-D11 I purchased two years ago, but my thinking is this: If I can buy a new one for $50, I'll have to buy 5 knock-offs over the life of my D7000 for me to think about buying the genuine MB-D11. And right now, it doesn't look like that's gonna happen.

I also bought a knock-off MB-D14 for my D600, and so far it's served me well.

My best advice about grips is this: If you actuate shutters for a living, buy Nikons. If you're a casual shooter (like I am), buy the knock-off. If you're concerned about the knock-offs breaking, just buy two and have a back-up on hand.... you'll still be money ahead.

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Omaha

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#5. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 4

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Tue 23-Apr-13 12:34 PM

That's pretty much where I am.

At this point, I don't see any advantage to the 5x or 6x price premium for "Genuine Nikon" if they are just going to break.

Breaking once? Things happen. Breaking twice in the exact same manner? That's a design flaw. A bit of Google searching last night tells me this is a common problem with these.

Funny part is I went round and round when I first got it, wondering if it was a knock-off or not (there is a pretty long thread here somewhere dealing with that). In the end, my conclusion was that if I had to try that hard to tell the difference between "genuine" and "knock-off", then it didn't really matter anyway (other than potentially way over-paying).

My ultimate confirmation came from sending it in for repair to Nikon. If its a knock-off, it fooled even them, and even accepted Nikon replacement parts? I doubt that. Its real Nikon.

And its a POS.

I haven't heard back from Nikon yet. If they refuse to fix this under warranty, I'l probably just buy a knock-off and toss this one in the bin.

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torwood

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#6. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 5

torwood Silver Member Nikonian since 06th Dec 2010
Tue 23-Apr-13 03:45 PM

OK, you guys peaked my curiosity. I have never bought a grip, because I didn't want to spend the money for the Nikon for as often as I might use it, and I was afraid of third party grips frying my electronics.

But,...I am reconsidering the third party grip, as I have not heard of any major camera problems caused by the grips. For the price, what do I have to lose?

So, what brand (if there is one) do you guys recommend? Do you get full functionality with these third party grips?

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jafo37

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#7. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

jafo37 Silver Member Nikonian since 26th Nov 2005
Tue 23-Apr-13 04:02 PM

Omaha, I also had the toggle switch break on my nearly new MB-D11. Split right down the middle, and almost fell out in pieces. Of course Nikon repaired it with minimal griping, and even sent me an additional battery holder as I sent it in without including the one I had. I know I was pushing too hard on the switch when it broke in the heat of action, but it sure should handle an old wimp like me. Web searches found ours not to be unique experiences with that button...Jackie

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Omaha

Omaha, US
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#8. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 7

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Tue 23-Apr-13 04:04 PM

Yep. That's exactly how mine broke. Both times.

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four eighty sparky

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#9. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 6

four eighty sparky Registered since 08th Apr 2011
Tue 23-Apr-13 07:41 PM

>OK, you guys peaked my curiosity. I have never bought a
>grip, because I didn't want to spend the money for the Nikon
>for as often as I might use it, and I was afraid of third
>party grips frying my electronics.
>
>But,...I am reconsidering the third party grip, as I have not
>heard of any major camera problems caused by the grips. For
>the price, what do I have to lose?
>
>So, what brand (if there is one) do you guys recommend? Do
>you get full functionality with these third party grips?


I, for one, have never heard of a case where a third-party grip damaged a camera. Not saying cannot happen, just I've never hear of it.

You still get the same functions with a 3-party grip. However, the rear command dial of my off-brand MB-D11 works in reverse when compared to the body dial.

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Bravozulu

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#10. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 8

Bravozulu Registered since 04th Jun 2012
Tue 23-Apr-13 08:35 PM | edited Tue 23-Apr-13 08:36 PM by Bravozulu

If you are going to buy a 3rd party grip, a few folks had favorable remarks about these brands: Meike, Bowen (Bowers-?). And one other sold by BH Photo.

Amazon sells a bunch of types, but I for one would caution against the Pixel Vectar model. As I said, I had to return it. It would drain the camera battery in 2 days. I guess you can't condemn their customer service because they gave me a full refund, including paying for shipping. But I lost confidence with them when I shot an email to their Customer Service folks, and they were off for the two week Chinese New Year. When they returned their response to my technical question was in incomprehensible English.
None of this inspired confidence.

(reading the small instruction sheet almost required a 100-power magnifying glass - it was that small)

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Omaha

Omaha, US
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#11. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Wed 24-Apr-13 09:21 PM

Quick update...Nikon emailed me a shipping label today. She's off to the spa in sunny California.

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Charlie M

Topeka, US
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#12. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 11

Charlie M Gold Member Donor Ribbon awarded for his generous support to the Fundraising Campaign 2015 Nikonian since 06th Aug 2011
Wed 24-Apr-13 09:42 PM

I have used 3rd party motor drives and battery gripes in the past and have problems with them not properly fitting the camera to not advancing the film and shorting out. I've learned it's best to spend the money up front and get a genuine Nikon accessory with Nikon's own warranty should something go wrong which for me has never happened. For me it's lesson learned. You're better served to spend the money for genuine Nikon accessories. I shelled out the money for the MBD80 and now for the MBD14. Never had a problem or had to second guess my decision.
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Omaha

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#13. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 11

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Mon 06-May-13 07:33 PM

New update:

I got an invoice (!) from Nikon saying they want $105.50 for the repair.

WTF.

So I called their customer service number, waded through about 72 levels of menus, got through to a guy, told him my story, then waited on hold for a while. When he came back he said it was an error on their part and the grip would be repaired at no charge to me.

Okay.

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Tucsonmr2

AU
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#14. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 13

Tucsonmr2 Registered since 08th Nov 2012
Mon 06-May-13 08:33 PM

gee, this seems to e a common problem then
heres how to tell the difference between the real and fake NIKON ones
http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1518/~/counterfeit-batteries-and-accessories#mbd11

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80080326@N04

Omaha

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#15. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 14

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Sat 18-May-13 01:56 AM

Grip made it back to me today. They fixed it all right. We'll see if the new button holds up any better than the first two.

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#16. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

PerroneFord Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2011
Sat 18-May-13 02:57 AM

Lightroom indicates tat I have 18,769 frames put through my D7000. The grip has been on it since day 1. I've never had a moment's trouble with the grip, buttons, or anything else. Not sure what you guys are doing to break these... I'm a sports photographer and toss cameras around all the time.

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Omaha

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#17. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 16

Omaha Registered since 07th Jan 2012
Sat 18-May-13 09:50 AM

That's the part I don't get either.

I'm not exactly "baby my gear guy", but I'm not "bang it around, treat it like you stole it guy" either.

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hnagy

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#18. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 17

hnagy Registered since 02nd Feb 2013
Sat 18-May-13 02:07 PM

Guys, I orderescthe Aputure for my D7000, I tested it in the shop, and it showed that the battery is dead!!
Few days later, they brought me another one, guess what, same error.
Even, I tested with a fully charged lithium geniune Nikon battery, and with 6 rechargeable lithium enercell fully charged. Still shows the batteries as dead (one dash).
I tried to power on the camera from the grip, but it didn't power the camera at all.
Please advise.

reserectedmxr

US
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#19. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 14

reserectedmxr Registered since 18th Jun 2013
Thu 27-Jun-13 02:18 AM

>gee, this seems to e a common problem then
>heres how to tell the difference between the real and fake
>NIKON ones
>http://nikonasia-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1518/~/counterfeit-batteries-and-accessories#mbd11
>
This has great detail on how to tell if it is a counterfeit grip also:

https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/49662

Hate to see people get scammed and hope this helps.

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#20. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 18

golfercat Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Sep 2012
Thu 27-Jun-13 02:45 AM

I would return your MB-D11 knockoff and buy one of the aforementioned that has no problems or bite the bullet and get the real McCoy.

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km6xz

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#21. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 18

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Thu 27-Jun-13 07:14 AM | edited Thu 27-Jun-13 07:14 AM by km6xz

Did you set the menu setting for the type of battery used for each test?
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St. Louis, US
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#22. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 21

singlerosa Silver Member Charter Member
Thu 27-Jun-13 04:44 PM

I've had my MB-D11 grip for 2+ years and sent it back to Nikon after 6 months because the rubber was coming loose from the lower left part of the bottom of the grip. They fixed it under warranty and a year later, it started happenening again. I had a Nikon grip on my D100 for 8 years with no issues. When I got my D600, I bought the Pixel grip for $95 and so far (2 months), it works fine.

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#23. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 22

richardd300 Silver Member Nikonian since 19th Apr 2009
Thu 27-Jun-13 07:28 PM

I thought I'd never buy a third party anything for my Nikon's! However after buying the MB-D10 for my D700, MB-D12 for my D800 and the MB-D11 for my D7000, I thought after buying my D7100 lets give it a try. I bought the "pixel" grip and search as I may, I cannot fault it. The build quality is equal IMO and when I hold it next to my MB-D12 I find little to differentiate it from the OEM model. Mind you, I have also discovered that there are equal quality 3rd Party lenses too

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#24. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 16

Vlad_IT Silver Member Nikonian since 21st Sep 2011
Fri 30-Aug-13 11:54 PM | edited Sat 31-Aug-13 12:00 AM by Vlad_IT

>Lightroom indicates tat I have 18,769 frames put through my
>D7000. The grip has been on it since day 1. I've never had a
>moment's trouble with the grip, buttons, or anything else.
>Not sure what you guys are doing to break these... I'm a
>sports photographer and toss cameras around all the time.



Same here. for 2.5 years i'm using one original grip. I'm on my third D7000 now (6k actuations), I sold my second one with 18k actuations, and the first one I had to return after 3 weeks due to not focusing correctly (4k actuations - learning curve). All three cameras were used with one original grip - it still goes strong. I do not use turn on/off switch though - it's always on for me. No battery discharge or any other problems.


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Vlad

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#25. "RE: About had enough of my MB-D11" | In response to Reply # 0

kevinao73 Registered since 28th Aug 2013
Mon 09-Sep-13 05:23 AM

Had the same problem, bought the grip for less than a year, used no more than 15 times, the button broke while I was shooting a wedding. Ruined my day a bit as I had to be extra careful with it. Ended up shooting without grip. Sent it back to Nikon Canada and had it repaired under warranty. But for a $250 grip.....it's pretty whimppy.

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