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Grunge

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Grunge Registered since 03rd Nov 2010
Fri 19-Nov-10 12:42 PM

I'm new to the Nikonians Forum and currently using a Canon 40D/50D. (My son shoots with Nikons.) Upgrade option is Canon 7D or Nikon D7000.

The specs of the D7000, especially the potential of its low light capability and AF system, are very tempting. Making the move would mean selling lenses, flashes, etc. So, before I do, want to make sure the move is the right one for me.

Has anyone compared the D7000 to the Canon 7D or 60D? I'm Interested in high iso performance, AF tracking for sports, and to a lesser extent HD movies.

Thanks in advance! This is a great Forum!

rodsky77

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#1. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 0

rodsky77 Registered since 08th Jan 2008
Sat 20-Nov-10 09:24 AM | edited Sat 20-Nov-10 09:28 AM by rodsky77

Welcome to Nikonians.

Before you make this move, definitely go to a store and shoot with the d7k just to see how the ergonomics work for you. The 7D is a semi-pro body, so is the 50D - they are larger than the d7k. The AF system on the Nikons is better for sports, but I have not seen any reviews of the d7k AF system and how well it fares against the d700 AF, which is a semi-pro body. If you like the ergonomics of the d7k and can afford to get the kit set, so that you have at least one lens to shoot with, without selling your Canon gear, you should get the kit, shoot with it for a while, and then either keep it and switch systems or or sell it on eBay. If you take this route, you will lose a lot less money than if you switch without trying out the d7k and then decide that it was a bad move.
The specs on the d7k are very good, but if you are used to shooting with a semi-pro body like me (I have a d700), I would get the d7k only as a second/backup body.

Or better yet, if your sons shoot Nikons, wait for them to get the body, and borrow it for a weekend, this way you will get your answer without the headache of buying and returning/selling.

Good luck with your decision.

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#2. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 0

Grunge

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#3. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 1

Grunge Registered since 03rd Nov 2010
Sat 20-Nov-10 01:08 PM

Rodsky77,

Thanks. I did use my son's D300S for a recent football game. Tough to make a call as the light was horrible. (3200 iso for most of the game!)

Jury still out...but appreciate the advice!

Grunge

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#4. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 0

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Sat 20-Nov-10 01:25 PM

>Has anyone compared the D7000 to the Canon 7D or 60D? I'm
>Interested in high iso performance, AF tracking for sports,
>and to a lesser extent HD movies.
>

To sum up I would say these are the developing consensus:
- D7000 beats 7D/60D in high ISO.
- AF Tracking for sports - progression is probably 7D, D7000, 60D.
- HD movies should be a tie (Canons have more frame rate choices, Nikon has AF).

Each of the above categories are probably "close" where one camera might be very very good and another very good etc. I misread your original post and thought your son had Canons so I was going to suggest you stay with Canon. I am a big believer in synchronizing DSLR camera-makers within family - it should give you more options and flexibility over time (e.g. borrow a flash, long lens, fast prime for special events). I would definitely talk to your son and make the strategic decision together.

If you do decide to go D7000 and coming from a 40D/50D I can't see the D7K being a big problem in any of the subject areas you mention. I find the AF very good as compared to my D300, the ISO better (but requires careful post-processing), and the package of features (e.g. AF-fine-tune) excellent. I'll throw out another thought is that if you want to have true mastery over low light then get the D700 (or Canon 5Dii).

Best regards, SteveK

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rodsky77

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#5. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 3

rodsky77 Registered since 08th Jan 2008
Sat 20-Nov-10 01:28 PM | edited Sat 20-Nov-10 01:31 PM by rodsky77

The d300s would not fare well at 3200 iso - 1600 tops. How do you like the
Nikon ergonomics compared to the Canon? Also, if you go with
the 60d, it would be a step down in terms of the functionality on the
body. Canon did a flip with the 60d - it's no longer a semi pro body
like the 50d. Just came back from a store after looking at the 7d
and the Nikon d7k, the d7k is very close to the d90, the 7d feels
more like my d700.

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RRRoger

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#6. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 5DII" | In response to Reply # 4

RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Sat 20-Nov-10 02:16 PM

As for the 5D2.
Great for Landscapes and Portraits
not for sports (AF way to slow)
good in low light up to 6400

Excellent HD movies
can be lots of work in manual mode.

Nikon D7000
Also great for Landscapes and Portraits
good enough for sports to back up my D3
better in low light at 6400 and much better at 12800

Good HD movies (only 24fps) which film makers prefer.
Excellent for 1280x720 movies at 30fps which I prefer.
Live view AF-S actually tracks a slow moving subject for you.

Now that I have a D7000, my complete 5D2 and 4 Sigma outfit is for sale.

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KnightPhoto

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#7. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 5DII" | In response to Reply # 6

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Sat 20-Nov-10 02:32 PM

Roger you raise a good point, I had forgot about the 5Dii AF limitations (whereas the D700 has none).

You are a bit of a rare commodity around here in having owned a recent Canon and I am curious when you say D7000 ISO is better at 6400/12,800 - are you saying than the 5dii ? If so I would also be interested how about at ISO 3200 as well?

BTW I have been reading your video AF now settling on single-rather-than-continuous experience with a great deal of interest. Please do continue to post how each Sunday progresses. I do mean to try out the video AF settings you have been using, could be a real breakthrough for shooting situations like that where camera to subject distance changes are more moderate.

Thanks again,

Best regards, SteveK

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Grunge

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#8. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 4

Grunge Registered since 03rd Nov 2010
Sat 20-Nov-10 04:20 PM

Steve K,
Right on ref. the iso...but I did not shoot the 50D for comparison at the game. Pictures cleaned up well in Lightroom 3 but not close to the D3/200-400 F4 combo my son used!

Thanks for the info...
Grunge

Grunge

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#9. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 5DII" | In response to Reply # 6

Grunge Registered since 03rd Nov 2010
Sat 20-Nov-10 04:22 PM

Good points - thanks!

KnightPhoto

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#10. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 8

KnightPhoto Gold Member Nikonian since 18th Dec 2006
Sat 20-Nov-10 05:36 PM

OK that settles it - if your son has a D3 and 200-400 you had better go Nikon

And the D7K is shaping up to be one of those nice combinations of features, performance, and price.

Lightroom 3 (as opposed to 2) has a far better reputation for dealing with Nikon high ISO so that will be a good piece of the puzzle in your shooting.

Best regards, SteveK

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RRRoger

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#11. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 5DII" | In response to Reply # 7

RRRoger Silver Member Fellow Ribbon awarded for his long history of demonstrated excellence and helping other members with equipment, technique and DSLR video in the true Nikonians spirit. Charter Member
Sat 20-Nov-10 09:00 PM


>
>You are a bit of a rare commodity around here in having owned
>a recent Canon and I am curious when you say D7000 ISO is
>better at 6400/12,800 - are you saying than the 5dii ? If so
>I would also be interested how about at ISO 3200 as well?

>Best regards, SteveK
>
The 5D2 is pretty good at ISO 3200, the D7000 is better still.
The 5D2 is pretty poor at ISO 6400, almost as bad as the D7000 at 12800

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#12. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 0

TomCurious Registered since 03rd Jan 2007
Sat 20-Nov-10 09:07 PM

You will presumably have some lenses that you use with your 40D and 50D? Lenses have far more impact on the image results than the body, and once you start with a system it rarely makes sense to switch. So I'd go with a 7D, it's a superb camera.

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Grunge

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#13. "RE: D7000 vs. Canon 7D" | In response to Reply # 12

Grunge Registered since 03rd Nov 2010
Sat 20-Nov-10 10:25 PM

Thanks to all of you. It appears that either one will be a good choice.

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