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RAW files from D7000

wwt67

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wwt67 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2010
Fri 22-Oct-10 02:40 AM

I called Nikon today to ask a few questions about VNX2. I mentioned that I could not open RAW files in CNX2 and the tech support guy was surprised. He said this was not a known problem. I told him it's mentioned in several message boards and people are expecting an update for CNX2 like they did for the D3100. He had me send a couple sample files and said he would get back with me. Oooops.

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km6xz

St Petersburg, RU
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#1. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Fri 22-Oct-10 02:08 PM

That does not bode well for expectations of getting real help from tech support.
If he did not know the way RAW converters need camera profile data to know what to do with the raw data maybe he is a CoolPix specialist, or working in the microscope division.

Before ACR was updated to include a profile for the D90 2 years ago, I was able to open the D90 files by using a free metadata editor to change the camera type to D300 saved the NEF. It opened but had some strange artifacts at the frame edges.

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Robman3

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#2. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 1

Robman3 Registered since 12th Apr 2010
Fri 22-Oct-10 07:58 PM

Stan you also suggested renaming files under a different camera profile as I recall.

Is that still in play?

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km6xz

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#3. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 2

km6xz Moderator Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Portraits and Urban Photography Nikonian since 22nd Jan 2009
Sat 23-Oct-10 03:33 AM

I don't believe I wrote that the file names be changed, the camera name can be changed in the metadata to fool ACR into thinking the image if from a camera that is supported. If it came out that the file name was to be changed, I might have mistyped or left out a word as sometimes happens. I tend to type faster than my skills allow, all with 4 fingers.
As far as I know the file name is not identifying the camera type to ACR at all.
I used that technique for a while until Adobe brought out the version of ACR that had a profile for the D90, a about a month after I got it.

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DsrtVW

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#4. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 3

DsrtVW Registered since 16th Dec 2007
Mon 25-Oct-10 12:46 AM

I also sent Nikon a support request, they sent reply asking for files and I am waiting for reply from them after sending them raw files.
Also made a call to Nik Software but they could not give me anything because it is a Nikon supported product.
Waiting. Editing with ViewNX2 is a pain. So used to Capture NX2 for editing

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wwt67

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#5. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 4

wwt67 Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Apr 2010
Mon 25-Oct-10 02:15 AM

I got a reply from Nikon saying "Capture NX2 in not capable of reading RAW files from the D7000. Sorry for any inconvenience".

Geesh, I'm glad they could confirm that for me. No word about an update or even if there will be one.

This is what I'm doing. Use VNX2 to convert my NEF files into 16-bit TIF. Then I use Paint Shop Pro X2 to edit the TIF files. I've been very happy with the results.

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ericbowles

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#6. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 0

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Mon 25-Oct-10 09:16 AM

The inability of Capture NX2 to ready D7000 is a huge blunder. Nikon is very aware of the issue with Capture NX2, but communication with the support area has never been their strong suit.

My guess is that Capture NX3 fully supports the D7000 and other next generation cameras but there is an issue preventing release. I am surprised they did not come up with a workaround in Capture version 2.2.5. It's one more reason why Nikon needs to get out of the software business.

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Mike Buckley

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#7. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 6

Mike Buckley Registered since 22nd Aug 2010
Mon 25-Oct-10 10:20 AM

>My guess is that Capture NX3 fully supports the D7000 and
>other next generation cameras but there is an issue preventing
>release.

I am not convinced that there is going to be an NX3. Despite that NX2 was released in June 2008, there has been no upgrade. The fact that there is also no update pertaining to the D7000 makes me wonder if NX2 will be the last of the line.

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charlie68

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#8. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 7

charlie68 Registered since 25th Oct 2010
Mon 25-Oct-10 02:05 PM | edited Mon 25-Oct-10 02:15 PM by charlie68

Mike,

I'm not getting this!

I think that what you mean is that there is no update to NX2 for the D7000 YET?

The spec for the D7000 mentions that NX2 is required for certain functions.

What else, other than NX2, will recognise the in-camera settings of the D7000. Please don't say ACR because they are just approximations to reproduce the look of the Picture Controls.

Be positive - there WILL be an update to NX2. Jason O'D has refered to V2.2.6 elsewhere - isn't he a Beta tester?

https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=153&topic_id=8641&mesg_id=8641&page=

I doesn't make sense for Nikon to drop NX2 or NX3 - be optimistic - it might not be for a while but it will arrive.

Charlie

gkaiseril

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#9. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Mon 25-Oct-10 02:28 PM | edited Mon 25-Oct-10 02:31 PM by gkaiseril

This is not the first time that Nikon has introduced a camera that shoots RAW and did not have the software available to support that camera's RAW format.

ACR does not process the in camera setting in a NEF file, but has a set series of settings that are applied to a NEF. This is certainly not even an approximation, it is a value only. While Capture NX2 actually applies the in camera settings when the image was taken. And the latest version, ACR 6.2, does not support the D7000. I expect this will be supported in the next release or the following release.

Capture NX2 properly applies all the in camera settings recorded with the image, can remove the camera settings, applies any 'picture controls' provided by Nikon, can save in the NEF format in a non-destructive format (you can undo the edit steps), can save and load the camera settings, can make custom picture controls, can preform image dust off.

Nikon and Adobe will update their products to support the D700 but they are not providing any possible time line.

If you need to edit the NEF, you could try GIMP or use a tool to modify the camera model name to a supported Nikon dSLR in the Exif data, just remember to keep a unedited copy of the file before your start. And as noted previously by Stan, you may encounter some artifacts or anomalies in the image.

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briantilley

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#10. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Mon 25-Oct-10 03:40 PM

>What else, other than NX2, will recognise the in-camera
>settings of the D7000.

Nikon View NX2 comes with the D7000 and will read its NEF files and honour the in-camera settings.

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charlie68

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#11. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 10

charlie68 Registered since 25th Oct 2010
Tue 26-Oct-10 05:48 AM

View NX has been updated to V2.0.3.

Camera Control has also been updated - NX2.2.6 next?

csgaraglino

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#12. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 11

csgaraglino Silver Member Charter Member
Tue 26-Oct-10 12:18 PM

Adobe ACR 6.3 RC does support the D7000

https://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=329&topic_id=1238&mesg_id=1238&page=

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gkaiseril

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#13. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 12

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Tue 26-Oct-10 02:21 PM

That is a pre-release version by Adobe Labs, so there could be subtle problems with that version. The official version should follow shortly.

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csgaraglino

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#14. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 13

csgaraglino Silver Member Charter Member
Tue 26-Oct-10 02:35 PM

Come on, was that really necessary - you assume that folks on this thread are morons?

"The 'release candidate' label indicates that the plug-in is well tested but would benefit from additional community testing before it is distributed automatically to all Adobe customers. The Camera Raw team would like the community to help verify the quality of the plug-in through normal usage as this will ensure that the plug-in is tested on a diversity of hardware and software configurations not available internally at Adobe."

In my 17 year of working with Adobe and Release Candidates, I have yet to experience any major issues - but, if you shoot RAW (and we are assuming that is what is being shot), it doesn't matter as ACR is non-destruction to the RAW file.

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briantilley

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#15. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 14

briantilley Gold Member Deep knowledge of bodies and lens; high level photography skills Donor Ribbon awarded for his support to the Fundraising Campaign 2014 Nikonian since 26th Jan 2003
Tue 26-Oct-10 02:57 PM

>Come on, was that really necessary - you assume that folks on
>this thread are morons?

Well, some may well not realise what "RC" meant in your first post.

There's nothing wrong with clarifying things - with any software it's as well to know its provenance and status before deciding whether to install it.

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csgaraglino

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#16. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 15

csgaraglino Silver Member Charter Member
Tue 26-Oct-10 03:12 PM

That's why the link - I'm sure they can read what Adobe says on the page...

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gkaiseril

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#17. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 16

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Tue 26-Oct-10 03:36 PM

They should also be aware that they need to update the ACR when the production release is made available.

I assume the posters are photographers and not professional software programmers. And when dealing with beta or pre-release programs there can be significant installation issues or end user misunderstandings about the use and update of the software. Too many users just click the links and do not read the text.

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gkaiseril

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#18. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 8

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Tue 26-Oct-10 04:59 PM | edited Tue 26-Oct-10 04:59 PM by gkaiseril

According to Jason Odell the next dot upgrade to Nikon Capture NX2 should be available shortly.

Capture NX2 - D7000 RAW\'s

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OpticalSerenity

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#19. "RE: RAW files from D7000" | In response to Reply # 18

OpticalSerenity Registered since 23rd Oct 2006
Tue 26-Oct-10 07:30 PM

I use Aperture, and am looking forward to Apple's update to support the D7000 NEF's. That said, I'm a bit surprised that these weren't made public by Nikon for their own software, prior to the D7000 launch.

The D7000's launch is pretty shaky. Between the lack of accessories (batteries, grip, etc) and now this, I'm not very impressed.

I am however beyond impressed with the D7000 itself.

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#20. "Capture NX2.2.6 now available - D7000 compatible" | In response to Reply # 19

Mike Buckley Registered since 22nd Aug 2010
Wed 27-Oct-10 11:45 AM | edited Wed 27-Oct-10 11:45 AM by Mike Buckley

Considering that I complained about the lack of a Capture NX2 update that supports D7000 RAW files, I am happy to report that it is apparently available at Nikon UK. As of about one hour before writing this, it was not yet available at Nikon USA. I did not check any other regions.

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csgaraglino

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#21. "RE: Capture NX2.2.6 now available - D7000 compatible" | In response to Reply # 20

csgaraglino Silver Member Charter Member
Wed 27-Oct-10 11:53 AM

Capture NX2 2.2.6 Full is available now.
http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/61/session/L2F2LzEvc2lkLzdjam1MeGRr#Anchor-2

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